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Camera games

  • 27-04-2010 6:10pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Ive been advised that my ex is buying a recording secret camera device to try and record me without my knowledge.

    Now I dont talk to him unless I absolutely have to. There are 3 kids involved and court ordered access. He wants more access so is probably gonna try record me for his solictor or maybe to justify his horrific treatment of me to his family e.g record me being a bitch and let his family see.

    Now how do I watch my back? I'm all the time on edge around him without this

    Has anyone else had this happen to them?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Miss Fluff


    Who told you about this happening? Are they a reliable source? Does your ex have access to your house?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Miss Fluff wrote: »
    Who told you about this happening? Are they a reliable source? Does your ex have access to your house?

    yeah very reliable source and they had proof.

    No access to my house, but would be at various meetings to do with the kids

    However a family member has access but doubt they would play his games but blood thicker than water and all that


    What sort of a person would behave like this? surely a judge would kick him out of the courtroom for this carry on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Miss Fluff


    I'll be honest I find your post a little confusing. To suggest this other person has "proof" suggests video/photographic evidence. So is your question, what do you do when a person has paid a PI/has PI evidence and how to stop them:confused:?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,595 ✭✭✭The Lovely Muffin


    Go to your solicitor (and maybe also the police) and do as they advise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭whatsamsn


    Op,
    Police wont do anything about this. That much is certain. As for a solicitor, they'll entertain you (for a better experession) but nothing good will come from that route. They'll only give you advice aka "Hot Air"

    So that just leads us to what sould you do?
    Simple. Limit and just keep all contact to the him down the bullet points/what he needs to know.

    This man is looking to catch you out on something now. To use against you. This much is obvious. He will engage in conversations, weather it be face to face or over the phone, in which he will try to draw you out.

    You say a friend also told you he was doing this. I imagine if you said to him directly you would be "exposing" your mutal friend. If thats the case dont do so. If he is openly telling people this then pull him up on it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Peggypeg


    Hey OP,

    Please do not listen to the advice above and call into the gardai and report him. It is completely illegal to record someone without their permission. I would also contact the Data Protection Commission for advice. I have a degree in Photography and I've studied media and privacy law. Please call into the gardai and also your solicitor for some real legal advice, do not go on what you hear on boards as the majority of people here have no idea, they're just giving their opinions which are often incorrect, not something you want to get wrong with 3 children involved.

    Best of luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    she doesnt have anything to report him yet

    he has apparently bought recording equipment - not illegal

    she is going on someone elses word and her own suspicions that his intentions are to record her


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Peggypeg


    yeah very reliable source and they had proof.

    I'm going by what the OP said. The OP did not say anywhere that she was going on "she is going on someone elses word and her own suspicions that his intentions are to record her". There is no point in not believing what the OP is telling us or surmising or guessing, that's not helpful to the OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    Peggypeg wrote: »
    I'm going by what the OP said. The OP did not say anywhere that she was going on "she is going on someone elses word and her own suspicions that his intentions are to record her". There is no point in not believing what the OP is telling us or surmising or guessing, that's not helpful to the OP.


    where did i say i didnt believe her??

    she is the one surmising and guessing, its all "hes probably/he'll try" etc

    she has someones word and whatever proof they have

    and she is now speculating on how he might record her

    he has not yet done so

    she cant second guess his mind as to what his intentions are

    (i acknowledge it looks dodgy, but the guards cant act until and unless he does something illegal, which he has not yet done)

    Ive been advised that my ex is buying a recording secret camera device to try and record me without my knowledge.

    Now I dont talk to him unless I absolutely have to. There are 3 kids involved and court ordered access. He wants more access so is probably gonna try record me for his solictor or maybe to justify his horrific treatment of me to his family e.g record me being a bitch and let his family see.


    yeah very reliable source and they had proof.

    No access to my house, but would be at various meetings to do with the kids

    However a family member has access


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Peggypeg wrote: »
    Hey OP,

    Please do not listen to the advice above and call into the gardai and report him. It is completely illegal to record someone without their permission. I would also contact the Data Protection Commission for advice. I have a degree in Photography and I've studied media and privacy law. Please call into the gardai and also your solicitor for some real legal advice, do not go on what you hear on boards as the majority of people here have no idea, they're just giving their opinions which are often incorrect, not something you want to get wrong with 3 children involved.

    Best of luck.

    It's not completely illegal to record someone so long as you don't in order to achieve it. as In the cases of Devoy v Dublin Corporation (plantiff unknowingly recorded and recording used in legal proceedings) and Atherton v DPP (unknowingly filmed) both were filmed without permission and in both cases the evidence was deemed by the courts to be admissable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭S23


    Unless you are likely to be caught doing something absoultely horrendous in relation to your children by there recording devices then you have little to worry about.

    I mean if you're not doing anything that would impact on your/his access to your kids then it hardly matters does it?

    You don't know for a fact he's doing it unless you have some hard copy evidence. If you do I'd take it to the police and ask for their advice.

    In fact I'd take whatever proof it is you were given and go to the police and speak to them anyway.

    It's a bit weird and creepy but if you're not going to do anything awful to be caught on camera/then I don't see a problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I dont have anything to worry about, I'm an excellent mother, same cant be said for him so I guess he is getting desperate.

    It does matter to me however as its not a nice thought that he is recording me. He has been caught red handed in the past recording me with a voice recorder.

    Obviously me and my boys have had a very lucky escape if this is the type of person he is. I mean this is not exactly normal behaviour or am I being naive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭S23


    Not its not the most normal and he must be desperate. You sound like you did well to be rid of him.

    However, if you're not saying anything noteworthy or whatever then its not worth the mental energy to stress yourself out about it.


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