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Quinn Insurance Truck Protest

  • 27-04-2010 6:00am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭91011


    Shoot yourself in your foot Quinn!!

    There are at this minute over 200 trucks gathered in Toughers Business park ready to bring hell to the M7, N7 & Dublin today from 8am.

    As of this evening my health insurance, motor insurance & home insurance will be transferred into a comapny that does not hold me and my work at ransom for the mistakes, skuldurgery & gambling of the main quinn shareholders.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    91011, do you want this moved to Ranting & Raving?

    I'll get one of the guys to move it over if you'd like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    before this is moved to R&R i'll take this opportunity to go against the rant lol

    They are only driving up and back to dublinFFS. Its not like the O'Connell strteet taxi protests. I (while not a Quinn employee) would support their actions. However I dont see them having any effect at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Barname


    91011 wrote: »
    Shoot yourself in your foot Quinn!!

    There are at this minute over 200 trucks gathered in Toughers Business park ready to bring hell to the M7, N7 & Dublin today from 8am.

    As of this evening my health insurance, motor insurance & home insurance will be transferred into a comapny that does not hold me and my work at ransom for the mistakes, skuldurgery & gambling of the main quinn shareholders.

    +1

    and I recommend others to do the same.

    Sean Quinn needs to face up to his losses and stop trying to impose himself and his pawns on this State

    first he used his employees

    now he uses his creditors

    Sean Quinn plays us for fools

    the balance sheets show Sean to be the fool


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭Mister men


    This an absolute disgrace. Why are the trucks being allowed do this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭beans


    Did anyone hear the spokesman on Newstalk?

    "I'm not a technical man, I don't know accounting or regulashun, but I'm a customer of Quinn and this is for jobs, real jobs"

    and what if Quinn can't pay their creditors?

    "I don't know anything about creditors"

    so you want to cause maximum chaos on Dublin's streets

    "Yes. But we've agreed to move it 30 minutes out of the main commute times... and this is nothing to do with Dublin commuters. I don't know much about..."

    anything it would seem.

    Also, Garda escort? rantie rantie rant


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,472 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Heard one of these idiots on the Hook show yesterday and basically came across as a complete muppet. Even George was calling him deluded. (what beans said above) :)

    Apparently listening to the radio there's 180 trucks there at present with another 30 mins to go before they move off.
    Honestly if I lived in Dublin and have to put with this crowd I'd be boycotting their goods etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Absolute ****ing idiots. Why don't they go and protest outside Sean Quinn's mansion? It was his reckless pissing away of three billion euro that has them in this state. But that's too obvious for these thick gombeens, "ah shure, he's a great man, didn't he buy me a pint once!"


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    91011 wrote: »
    As of this evening my health insurance, motor insurance & home insurance will be transferred into a comapny that does not hold me and my work at ransom for the mistakes, skuldurgery & gambling of the main quinn shareholders.

    The truckers don't work for Quinn, they are customers of Quinn...so they didn't shoot anyone anywhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    before this is moved to R&R i'll take this opportunity to go against the rant lol

    They are only driving up and back to dublinFFS. Its not like the O'Connell strteet taxi protests. I (while not a Quinn employee) would support their actions. However I dont see them having any effect at all.

    A 200 truck convoy is going to have no effect? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭Mister men


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    before this is moved to R&R i'll take this opportunity to go against the rant lol

    They are only driving up and back to dublinFFS. Its not like the O'Connell strteet taxi protests. I (while not a Quinn employee) would support their actions. However I dont see them having any effect at all.
    200 trucks will have a massive effect unfortunatly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭beans


    Berkut wrote: »
    Heard one of these idiots on the Hook show yesterday and basically came across as a complete muppet. Even George was calling him deluded. (what beans said above) :)

    Same dude, Barry O'Reilly I think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,634 ✭✭✭celt262


    Alot of these truckers would owe the Quinn Group money and feel that they are obliged to take part in this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    I assume the Gardai will issue fines and/or arrest to those truckers flouting the HGV ban in Dublin city centre between 7am and 7pm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭Trev C


    Nope, far from the gardai issuing fines, they will be giving them an escort!!!! Ridiculous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,634 ✭✭✭celt262


    Trev C wrote: »
    Nope, far from the gardai issuing fines, they will be giving them an escort!!!! Ridiculous

    Im sure they have got permits to enter the city centre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭Trev C


    I'd be surprised if 300 trucks all have permits to be honest. The bloke on the radio last night was a customer of Quinns who was taking part in the protest and he was a customer of the concrete/cement side of the business. Now i could be wrong but would they have permits for driving through the city centre?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Saint_Mel


    Trev C wrote: »
    Nope, far from the gardai issuing fines, they will be giving them an escort!!!! Ridiculous

    Hopefully thats just luring them into a false sence of security ...
    "This way lads, we'll get you a clear run at at ... ticket books at the ready, boys"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,634 ✭✭✭celt262


    Trev C wrote: »
    I'd be surprised if 300 trucks all have permits to be honest. The bloke on the radio last night was a customer of Quinns who was taking part in the protest and he was a customer of the concrete/cement side of the business. Now i could be wrong but would they have permits for driving through the city centre?

    I dont know but i have seen the email that was sent around by Quinn/whoever and there was a link on it for permits.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,207 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    With the truck protest, and a crash at Kill, traffic is going to be manic today.

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/serious-delays-on-n7-455476.html

    Heard a load of sirens outside a few mins ago, that explains it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 373 ✭✭ocokev


    Trev C wrote: »
    The bloke on the radio last night was a customer of Quinns who was taking part in the protest and he was a customer of the concrete/cement side of the business. ?

    Most of the truckers involved with Quinn have their livelyhoods damaged by the causes of the building slump ie the concrete business, insulation radiators etc. And here they were on frontline crying about the expence of fuel. Who's going to pay for your little trip driving around Dublin for the day?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,634 ✭✭✭celt262


    ocokev wrote: »
    Most of the truckers involved with Quinn have their livelyhoods damaged by the causes of the building slump ie the concrete business, insulation radiators etc. And here they were on frontline crying about the expence of fuel. Who's going to pay for your little trip driving around Dublin for the day?

    Whoever owns the truck im sure.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭KamiKazi


    Fair play to them, if more people had their attitude the government wouldn't get away with half the sh1t they do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,634 ✭✭✭celt262


    KamiKazi wrote: »
    Fair play to them, if more people had their attitude the government wouldn't get away with half the sh1t they do.

    Yeah but it isnt going to do any good, all it is doing is disrupting ordinary people who want to get to work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭ch750536


    So we bailed out the banks for making ****e business decisions, a travesty in my opinion.

    What we are talking about here is some ****e of a chief exec sanctioning a very risky business model (pardon the pun) by telling the shareholders the return is worth the risk. Then when it goes wrong people want them bailing out!

    1. Were the people involved in making the decision to go after the high risk market dismissed or rewarded with bonuses?
    2. Would Quinn shareholders have handed over a wad of cash to the public if their risky business model succeeded?

    If they were Q1.dismissed & they Q2. submit proof that they were going to hand over a wad of cash to the Irish public then I wholeheartedly support them.

    Else they can go **** themselves. This is capitalism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,497 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Not only are the Gardai not going to apply the law on HGVs in the City Centre but they're also supplying our dear protestors with an escort as they rail against the establishment so bent on killing the Quinn Group for a small matter like regulation. :rolleyes:

    And yet some wonder why this country is gone wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭racso1975


    It really piss's me off that people can get away with sh!te like this! How is this going to have any affect on the goverment or the regulator. As usual the small guy, employee's being late and small companies will suffer with loss of wages and money! Bunch of f%(kin waster's!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭Pistolpete1


    Oh its a discrace to have these guy protesting in Dublin, Why not protest outside Quinns estate???? with their 200 lorrys. I think employees of quinns will do what ever he asks of them. I cant understand it but do these people protesting in dublin not understand that its actually quinns fault not the goernment for once!!!, Years ago the regulator didnt do his job, and left us in this crisis, now he is do too good a job and people complain also, if a big company likie quinns cant "show me the money" as the regulator put it then into admin you go and its not the governments fault. its quinns


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    KamiKazi wrote: »
    Fair play to them, if more people had their attitude the government wouldn't get away with half the sh1t they do.

    yeah like propping up failed businesses with taxpayers money.......:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭loveacca


    What are these guys hoping to achieve?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Barname


    loveacca wrote: »
    What are these guys hoping to achieve?

    futility ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 373 ✭✭ocokev


    loveacca wrote: »
    What are these guys hoping to achieve?

    Its a very articulate effort to save real jobs, not imageniary but real jobs like truck driving.
    Nearly breakfast roll time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    ocokev wrote: »
    Its a very articulated effort to save real jobs, not imageniary but real jobs like truck driving.
    Nearly breakfast roll time.

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,486 ✭✭✭Bazzy




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    Oh its a discrace to have these guy protesting in Dublin, Why not protest outside Quinns estate???? with their 200 lorrys. I think employees of quinns will do what ever he asks of them. I cant understand it but do these people protesting in dublin not understand that its actually quinns fault not the goernment for once!!!, Years ago the regulator didnt do his job, and left us in this crisis, now he is do too good a job and people complain also, if a big company likie quinns cant "show me the money" as the regulator put it then into admin you go and its not the governments fault. its quinns

    yes i agree its a disgrace that they are just protesting today , it should be everyday along with 5000 more trucks tractors etc until this idiotic government is forced out of office


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,497 ✭✭✭✭cson


    loveacca wrote: »
    What are these guys hoping to achieve?

    Freedom!

    [Freedom? Freedom's just a word. If I had to die/protest for a word it'd be poontang.]


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 michellery


    I think the point everybody is missing here is that this a group of Irish citizens who are fighting to keep their jobs. The main point is that so many people are being let go and made redundant in Ireland at the moment and ordinary Irish citizens are going into debt and losing their livlihood and homes as a result of it. Are you trying to tell me that if your job was in jeopardy that you wouldn't do everything in your power to try and keep your job??!! The Irish Government is sitting on their laurels as per usual and merely paying lip service. Mary Harney's been off on a 38k New Zealand trip which the tax paying employees of Quinn and other tax payers are paying for. The Irish Government has sent a contingency over to USA to try and import some new jobs ....what the employees at Quinn are saying is why is the Irish Government sending people over to USA to try and bring in new jobs when they should in effect try to stabilise existing Irish jobs. Have we are the Irish nation not had enough job losses??, it's time Brian Cowen took the finger out and gave as much support to the Irish taxpayer as we gave Fianna Fail in voting them into power. It is not unreasonable for Quinn employees to try and keep their jobs - if you were in their situation would you not try to do the same thing???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Töpher


    michellery wrote: »
    I think the point everybody is missing here is that this a group of Irish citizens who are fighting to keep their jobs.

    By irritating thousands of commuters in Dublin, instead of, you know, doing their jobs? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,497 ✭✭✭✭cson


    michellery wrote: »
    I think the point everybody is missing here is that this a group of Irish citizens who are fighting to keep their jobs. The main point is that so many people are being let go and made redundant in Ireland at the moment and ordinary Irish citizens are going into debt and losing their livlihood and homes as a result of it. Are you trying to tell me that if your job was in jeopardy that you wouldn't do everything in your power to try and keep your job??!! The Irish Government is sitting on their laurels as per usual and merely paying lip service. Mary Harney's been off on a 38k New Zealand trip which the tax paying employees of Quinn and other tax payers are paying for. The Irish Government has sent a contingency over to USA to try and import some new jobs ....what the employees at Quinn are saying is why is the Irish Government sending people over to USA to try and bring in new jobs when they should in effect try to stabilise existing Irish jobs. Have we are the Irish nation not had enough job losses??, it's time Brian Cowen took the finger out and gave as much support to the Irish taxpayer as we gave Fianna Fail in voting them into power. It is not unreasonable for Quinn employees to try and keep their jobs - if you were in their situation would you not try to do the same thing???

    Fair play to them. Like every other employed person in the land. but no, Quinn Group employees are a special set of martyrs so we'll just highlight the fact they pay tax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭Mad_Max


    michellery wrote: »
    . It is not unreasonable for Quinn employees to try and keep their jobs - if you were in their situation would you not try to do the same thing???

    Is it not Quinn customers that are doing this???!

    On Newstalk this morning about how Sean Quinn should be helped out because he created 5000 jobs, yadda frickin yadda and the financial wreckulator is too heavy handed. Tools.

    Giving these morons a vote is what keeps us in the ****s.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 michellery


    No, by making sure the Government pays attention and does not sweep this under the carpet like the litany of other mistakes it has made. The Irish Government is the reason this country is in a total state of chaos. It's time Brian Cowen went back to the pig farm he was raised on. He is utterly incapable of running this country. Added to the fact he is abusing the privilige of being pig ugly. I for one was squirming all the way through his St. Patricks Day news coverage with Barrack Obama ....especially when the Americans started taking the p out of him and he was too stupid to even realise, they had every right to make a joke out of him Barrack Obama was impecable and Brian Cowen was there with his tie stuck under his arm. Why are we allowing this idiot to run the country when he is clearly unemployable in every other sector of the Irish economy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    michellery wrote: »
    I think the point everybody is missing here is that this a group of Irish citizens who are fighting to keep their jobs.

    So how exactly is clogging up the streets of the city's capital with 200 trucks going to acheive this?
    michellery wrote: »
    The main point is that so many people are being let go and made redundant in Ireland at the moment and ordinary Irish citizens are going into debt and losing their livlihood and homes as a result of it.

    Nope, the main point is that Sean Quinn gambled €3billion and the future of his employees with a mind boggingly stupid investment in Anglo. The only man responsible for these jobs being at risk is Sean Quinn and these trucks should be outside his mansion protesting.

    michellery wrote: »
    Are you trying to tell me that if your job was in jeopardy that you wouldn't do everything in your power to try and keep your job??!! The Irish Government is sitting on their laurels as per usual and merely paying lip service.

    Nope, the Irish government is belatedly trying to put in place measures to ensure that the banking collapse can't happen again by finally introducing proper regulation. The kind of regulation that should have been going on for years and the kind of regulation that, has rightly put Quinn into administration.
    michellery wrote: »
    Mary Harney's been off on a 38k New Zealand trip which the tax paying employees of Quinn and other tax payers are paying for.

    Which has precisely nothing to do with the issue at hand. But this is After Hours, ranting about Mary Harney is the thing to do.
    michellery wrote: »
    The Irish Government has sent a contingency over to USA to try and import some new jobs ....what the employees at Quinn are saying is why is the Irish Government sending people over to USA to try and bring in new jobs when they should in effect try to stabilise existing Irish jobs.

    That’s exactly what the regulator is doing. Putting Quinn into administration because Sean Quinn isn't fit to run the company and leaving him in charge would mean the very real prospect that the entire company would go bankrupt.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 225 ✭✭calahans


    michellery wrote: »
    I think the point everybody is missing here is that this a group of Irish citizens who are fighting to keep their jobs. The main point is that so many people are being let go and made redundant in Ireland at the moment and ordinary Irish citizens are going into debt and losing their livlihood and homes as a result of it. Are you trying to tell me that if your job was in jeopardy that you wouldn't do everything in your power to try and keep your job??!! The Irish Government is sitting on their laurels as per usual and merely paying lip service. Mary Harney's been off on a 38k New Zealand trip which the tax paying employees of Quinn and other tax payers are paying for. The Irish Government has sent a contingency over to USA to try and import some new jobs ....what the employees at Quinn are saying is why is the Irish Government sending people over to USA to try and bring in new jobs when they should in effect try to stabilise existing Irish jobs. Have we are the Irish nation not had enough job losses??, it's time Brian Cowen took the finger out and gave as much support to the Irish taxpayer as we gave Fianna Fail in voting them into power. It is not unreasonable for Quinn employees to try and keep their jobs - if you were in their situation would you not try to do the same thing???

    If the regulator had of taken the same line with anglo 5 years ago he would have been slaughtered for stopping a profitable, big employer for doing its business and jeopordising jobs. He would have saved us billions now. However there was no regulator (of worth) then and we see what happens.

    Now we have a regulator who is working in the interest of tax payer. I dont want to have to bail out Quinn in another year or two.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 michellery


    Again, this is not about Sean Quinn. This is about a group of Irish civilians trying to keep their jobs. Trying to ensure that Quinn Insurance can continue to sell UK business until the regulator finds somebody to buy the company and keep it as a going concern so that Irish citizens can continue to pay their mortgage and put food in their childrens' mouths. Quinn employees do not want to rely on dole hand outs - they want to work and contribute towards the Irish economy and as such they want to try to keep the company as a viable going concern until somebody else can buy it as it is a profit making company. This is not about Sean Quinn personally, what's dragging him into it is that the company is currently called Quinn Insurance. They are simply trying to keep their jobs and anybody who stands up and says that they wouldn't fight for their jobs if they were in jeopardy is either a liar or a bum on the dole queue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,519 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    KamiKazi wrote: »
    Fair play to them, if more people had their attitude the government wouldn't get away with half the sh1t they do.

    Actually it's precisely because of their attitude that the country is in the state it's in. These guys are protesting that the FR is for once doing its job, given all the revelations that we've heard I find the truckers actions unbelievable. Maybe they should have another protest in support of Seanie, Fingers etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    michellery wrote: »
    Added to the fact he is abusing the privilige of being pig ugly. I for one was squirming all the way through his St. Patricks Day news coverage with Barrack Obama ...

    Well thanks for pretty much invalidating whatever misguided points you may have been trying to make. If the strength of your argument rests on 'shure he's ugly', you've lost.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Funny that more protesters are showing up to this than the Change the Government one on Sat.

    Jesus, who was that awful eejit on Hook yesterday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭massdebater


    Rabies wrote: »
    91011, do you want this moved to Ranting & Raving?

    I'll get one of the guys to move it over if you'd like.


    Where's Ranting & Raving gone to? I thought they got rid of it altogether?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Where's Ranting & Raving gone to? I thought they got rid of it altogether?


    It's gone private. Post in this thread to get access

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055839939


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    Mister men wrote: »
    200 trucks will have a massive effect unfortunatly.
    no i meant it wont have any effect - as in their actions are futile

    (obviously i know that hundreds of trucks will bottleneck traffic)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 LINDABLACK


    Perhaps a few thousand jobs at risk "down in the sticks" is unimportant to Dublin Commuters and Business people. Perhaps the families and communities totally dependent on Quinn both directly and indirectly for employment is irrelevant. This protest is an attempt to highlight the gravity of the situation for all those people and families who's livlihood's are at risk. It's not about Sean Quinn and his mistakes. Let the person who has never made a mistake put his hand up. The crux of this situation is that thousands of people, entire communities in Cavan and Fermanagh will be totally destroyed should the worst come to the worst. Why should these people be criticised for making a stand for their rights? WHY NOT stand up and be counted.......... People have stood idly by for too long in this country, letting a bunch of GOMBEEN's (as someone described the Quinn supporters, merely for their "non dublin" postal address I'd Imagine) ruin our country. I APPLAUD these protesters.... Fair Play to you guys, Keep it up.... Keep your voice heard.....


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