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strokesavers

  • 26-04-2010 12:20pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭


    I am looking for a website that has strokesavers on it. Kilkenny Golf Club and Corca Wood, Castleblayney and Newbridge are the ones I want at the moment. I know someone who printed off the hole by hole guide for one of the courses I played but have no way of contacting her to find out what site she got it on. If anyone has the actual strokesavers for any of these courses and would be willing to loan them to me I could photocopy them and send them back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Mister Sifter


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭GorHugh


    the price of stroke savers is down too feck all these days .. Carton House only charged E6 on saturday for there one .....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭Par72


    I can't understand why you wouldn't just buy a strokesaver in the pro-shop? Surely a load of A4 photocopied pages is a lot less manageable than a neat little strokesaver that will fit nicely in your pocket/bag. False economy I would think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭ShriekingSheet


    I never really got into using stroke savers. All courses have good distance markers these days. Once you've played the course, have an idea of the depth of greens, a couple of no-go areas and where not to hit driver, there's nothing much else to worry about imo.

    If you haven't played the course, I just think you're going to struggle to compete whether you've a strokesaver or not. A picture of the hole with "favour the left" and "220 yards to carry first fairway bunker" is of very little use to anyone if you ask me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Mister Sifter


    Pretty sure the strokesavers are copyrighted, so you'd most likely be breaking copyright law by photocopying them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭Conor J


    I never really got into using stroke savers. All courses have good distance markers these days. Once you've played the course, have an idea of the depth of greens, a couple of no-go areas and where not to hit driver, there's nothing much else to worry about imo.

    If you haven't played the course, I just think you're going to struggle to compete whether you've a strokesaver or not. A picture of the hole with "favour the left" and "220 yards to carry first fairway bunker" is of very little use to anyone if you ask me.

    its of great use to me, i need to know if i can carry a bunker, a tree or rough from the tee when i play a course for the first time, or indeed the 2nd.


  • Subscribers Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭PhilipMarlowe


    Don't think Kilkenny has one anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Daithio9


    Yea most definately copyrighted, but I'd still love to see the OP on the course with his printed version for the laugh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 jamiegib16


    I have been working at producing course guides for the last 10 years and we have invested money, time and probably shortened my life by a few years to produce these guides. The country is in recession, golf is getting nailed and this guy is printing off copyrighted imagery. We produced Concra Wood and I would advise you to think again before breaching copyright. You are damaging our business and in turn will put another on the dole que. Its a few euro, dig deep...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭carplates


    hear hear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭1967


    Any course i have ever played i always bought the strokesaver if available nice memento and they are only a couple of quid,never seen one for kilkenny though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭Fore Iron


    I must have 20 or so at this stage. There's something nice about flicking through a neat strokesaver the night before you go to play to remind you what the place is like. And I certainly think the better quality ones are very helpful even if you haven't played the course before. Some of the poorer ones though aren't worth the paper they're printed on. Honestly some places seem to have them just to say they have them!!

    Anyway, golf is not a cheap hobby or sport to get involved in. But, I really can't understand if you can afford say 30 quid in green fees, 10 quid in lost golf balls, and 15 quid for lunch afterwards, why you can't afford a 5 euro strokesaver that is unlikely to be lost and can be used for free the next time you play!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭GorHugh


    I bought one from concra wood wen i was there last year ... Fine strokesaver too lad .. I get to use it again on Sat 15th .. well worth the few quid they cost ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Kace


    Some courses provide their course guides for free online. I am playing The Heritage this weekend and notice that the guide is up there for free download / printing - must do that tomorrow !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭joanmul


    jamiegib16 wrote: »
    I have been working at producing course guides for the last 10 years and we have invested money, time and probably shortened my life by a few years to produce these guides. The country is in recession, golf is getting nailed and this guy is printing off copyrighted imagery. We produced Concra Wood and I would advise you to think again before breaching copyright. You are damaging our business and in turn will put another on the dole que. Its a few euro, dig deep...

    Point taken. I have bought some. However, as OP pointed out, Kilkenny doesn't have one and I was looking for a website that might have the info.

    You could also take Daithi09 to task for rubbishing them - he'd LOL if he saw me out on the course with it.

    As regards paying out for green fees, golf balls, golf membership, golf shoes, golf clothes, golf clubs, wet weather gear, a 19th hole drink, even the odd golf lesson - what's another few euro. Well we have to tighten our belts somewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭whocares86


    why do more course not have stokesavers. nothing more annoying than turning up at a nice 18 hole course for the 1st time and not knowing the lay out of the course, hazards etc. i dont know how much it would cost to map a course and produce a strokesaver. once it is done than that is it. maybe put in a page of advertisments in between each hole and surely the cost will have been covered. i always buy one if one is available . Personally i think the Mount Juliet was the best one as you get the pin positions on the score cards. i dont know what doonbeg were doing when they made theirs. very hard to follow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭GorHugh


    whocares86 wrote: »
    why do more course not have stokesavers. nothing more annoying than turning up at a nice 18 hole course for the 1st time and not knowing the lay out of the course, hazards etc. i dont know how much it would cost to map a course and produce a strokesaver. once it is done than that is it. maybe put in a page of advertisments in between each hole and surely the cost will have been covered. i always buy one if one is available . Personally i think the Mount Juliet was the best one as you get the pin positions on the score cards. i dont know what doonbeg were doing when they made theirs. very hard to follow

    Was in Carton House on sat morn , they printed the pinpositions on the back of the cards too ... It was a great help .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭Golfgraffix


    As someone who owns a company that produces Yardage Books (strokesaver is a brand name) I feel very strongly about someone reproducing copyrighted work with out permission.

    In saying that a lot of courses are moving away from charged booklets to more digital methods, there is not a lot of revenue in yardage books, at least outside of the resort courses, smaller members clubs cant command €10 a book, so at €5 the margin is very small.

    We have been asked a lot latley for video guides for mobile phones, simple accurate video with distances. We are still waiting for calrification if they can be used in competition.

    This is a sample from Roganstown, suitable for all mobile phones and free to download.

    http://www.golfgraffix.com/Animated_Yardage_book.html

    We are currently carrying out a survey, most of it is about online golf but there are some questions about yardage books, if anyone wants to take part please feel free.

    Digital Golf Survey

    John


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭1916


    We have been asked a lot latley for video guides for mobile phones, simple accurate video with distances. We are still waiting for calrification if they can be used in competition.

    This is a sample from Roganstown, suitable for all mobile phones and free to download.

    http://www.golfgraffix.com/Animated_Yardage_book.html

    John

    Fantastic idea and looks great


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭DonkeyPokerTour


    I always buy one when their available. What surprised me is there seems to be little correlation between price, quality of the course and standard of the booklet. The best ones I have (I dont have that many maybe 5 or 6), are Druids Heath/Druids Glen, work very well and give distances from the near side of the water to the green so you can work out how far it is to the water if needs be etc. I think they cost me €8 each.

    The worst one I have is easily the K-Club Smurfit course, gives hardly any distances, a little advise from Palmer but hardly anything to write home about and worse is it very rarely gives the distance from the water to the green which makes it nearly impossible to figure out how far it is to the water. GRRRR. Worst €10 ever spent!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 252 ✭✭Gin77


    Apart from tight arses, people who want to play an open comp or scratch cup 50 or 100 miles from where they live. Might want a shot saver online in order to come up with a game plan!
    That copyright comment was a load of boll*x because anyone can map a course themselves using a blank yardage book.
    http://dig.do/yardage-marker.com
    Then there's all the GPS sites http://www.swingbyswing.com/ to help you map it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 606 ✭✭✭Tin_Cup


    Similar to 1967 I always try to pick up a strokesaver in the pro-shop. Keep them at home in old shoe boxes for the next outing. Good craic to thumb through during the dark winter months.


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