UCD to lose the number 10 bus service

Dave_S

The powers that be in Dublin Bus have decided to scrap the 10 route from this July.

In its place will be a version of the 46a coming from Dun Laoghaire via Belfield and on into town, grand you migh say, but the 46a is an extremely busy bus and theres no way it will be able to cope with the numbers leaving belfield from 4pm onwards each evening.

It will be helped out with a NEW 39A service going from Belfield to Blanchardstown area but this wont service O Connell st, which is where most people get there connections be it anonther bus or the luas red line.

Dublin Bus are putting media spin on the situation and claiming that ucd will have a better service, but this just isnt the case, there will be less busses trying to offer the same service! In fact there will be at least 90 less busses on the city streets come the new college year.

So for the new college year be prepared to stand all the way into town after you have been unable to get in the last 3 buses because they were full!

Vent your anger here http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=114935958528964&v=info&ref=nf

Cool Mo D

Dave_S wrote: »

The powers that be in Dublin Bus have decided to scrap the 10 route from this July.

In its place will be a version of the 46a coming from Dun Laoghaire via Belfield and on into town, grand you migh say, but the 46a is an extremely busy bus and theres no way it will be able to cope with the numbers leaving belfield from 4pm onwards each evening.

It will be helped out with a NEW 39A service going from Belfield to Blanchardstown area but this wont service O Connell st, which is where most people get there connections be it anonther bus or the luas red line.

Dublin Bus are putting media spin on the situation and claiming that ucd will have a better service, but this just isnt the case, there will be less busses trying to offer the same service! In fact there will be at least 90 less busses on the city streets come the new college year.

So for the new college year be prepared to stand all the way into town after you have been unable to get in the last 3 buses because they were full!

Vent your anger here http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=114935958528964&v=info&ref=nf

Why is this a problem exactly? The 46a is not always packed - it usually comes in threes - full, quieter, quietest. And so what if the 39A doesn't stop on O'Connell street - if it goes the current 39A route it's a 5 minute walk away from Dame Street to O'Connell street.

And UCD also has the 3, the 84, the 145, and 46b and almost every Xpresso bus in the city heading into town in the evening - the Xpressos are almost always empty, as people don't seem to know you can just take them into town.

It's well past time Dublin Bus joined up some routes, and ran more direct cross-city buses, instead of clogging up the city centre with parked buses.

Dave_S

Cool Mo D wrote: »

Why is this a problem exactly? The 46a is not always packed - it usually comes in threes - full, quieter, quietest. And so what if the 39A doesn't stop on O'Connell street - if it goes the current 39A route it's a 5 minute walk away from Dame Street to O'Connell street.

And UCD also has the 3, the 84, the 145, and 46b and almost every Xpresso bus in the city heading into town in the evening - the Xpressos are almost always empty, as people don't seem to know you can just take them into town.

It's well past time Dublin Bus joined up some routes, and ran more direct cross-city buses, instead of clogging up the city centre with parked buses.

the problem is it wont be the 46a serving belfield it will be a new virsion of it, a not very regular version, and it will still head to town along the 10 route, ie baggot st, could be 30 mins in between busses. people are going to find it easier to walk out to the bus stop at the main gate

Pigwidgeon

They're aiming to have busses running on average every five minutes. At least there is more than one option of getting buses into town, even with the new routes.

What I'm worried about is if they cut the 84 timetables even more, it's difficult enough getting back to Greystones with them every hour as it is. Be glad you have the option of getting more than one bus straight to town.

El Siglo

Dublin Bus cutting the No. 10.
The solution... go to Trinity!;)
Ah this is ridiculous so it is. The 10 is busy enough during the evenings without taking it away. They can spin it all they want but it's still damaging a decent bus route. I'm happy to be out of UCD now.

Cool Mo D

Dave_S wrote: »

the problem is it wont be the 46a serving belfield it will be a new virsion of it, a not very regular version, and it will still head to town along the 10 route, ie baggot st, could be 30 mins in between busses. people are going to find it easier to walk out to the bus stop at the main gate

How do you know? The details of what's happening aren't being published until Monday. I'd be very surprised if the 46a was reduced in frequency.

Dave_S

kateos2 wrote: »

They're aiming to have busses running on average every five minutes. At least there is more than one option of getting buses into town, even with the new routes.

Dont believe everything you read, the fact of the situation is they are getting rid of 90 double decker busses and 150 staff, so there is no way in hell they can offer a 5 minute service.

The may achive this on the 2 most profitable bus corridors, the Stillorgan
dual carraige way and the Navan road towards Blanchardstown. But I would argue that this is already the case! no single route will have a bus every 5 mins!

BlueCam

Dave_S wrote: »

the problem is it wont be the 46a serving belfield it will be a new virsion of it, a not very regular version, and it will still head to town along the 10 route, ie baggot st, could be 30 mins in between busses. people are going to find it easier to walk out to the bus stop at the main gate

You're talking rubbish. As mentioned above, the exact plans aren't even going to be released until Monday, but from a business viewpoint there is absolutely no chance that they'll reduce the frequency of the 46a. It's the busiest bus in Ireland, it runs every 4 mins at peak time, and you're trying to claim they'll cut it back to every half hour? If you actually read the information that has been released the whole point of this streamlining is that they will have more routes running at 5 min intervals, all day, along major QBCs.

Stop trying to promote your stupid Facebook group, please.

Dave_S

Cool Mo D wrote: »

How do you know? The details of what's happening aren't being published until Monday. I'd be very surprised if the 46a was reduced in frequency.

The 46a wont be reduced in frequency, it would be a new version of the 46 ie a 46d or 46e that will serve belfield. If you want confirmation of this contact the National Bus and Rail Union in the morning, They have the details of whats happening, maybe the students union could get involved

Dave_S

BlueCam wrote: »

You're talking rubbish. As mentioned above, the exact plans aren't even going to be released until Monday, but from a business viewpoint there is absolutely no chance that they'll reduce the frequency of the 46a. It's the busiest bus in Ireland, it runs every 4 mins at peak time, and you're trying to claim they'll cut it back to every half hour? If you actually read the information that has been released the whole point of this streamlining is that they will have more routes running at 5 min intervals, all day, along major QBCs.

Stop trying to promote your stupid Facebook group, please.

Time will tell! And thats not what I claimed at all! The exact plans of whats happening was realised to the the Dublin Bus trade unions yesterday lunchtime

ghostchant

There already is a 46d/e. If the 46a will continue running as normal then just walk the few mins between the current 10 stop and the 46a stop, going into town at the end of the day on them would be fine, the packed-buses would be in the other direction, are they not?

errlloyd

The very first post in this thread is so wrong I can't even believe it...

The 46a going into town I.E along the 10 route around afternoon rush hour is empty. The 46a coming out of town around the morning rush hour is empty.

The people who have issues are people who follow the congestion, I.E me who lives in Cabinteely, and has never been able to get the ten, and has to get on packed busses like the 145, 84 ect. But even still my particular needs are always catered for around rush hour by the 46c.

The 10 itself is a completely ridiculous bus, its far too frequent for what it does, who is actually served by a bus that goes from Phoenix Park to UCD? UCD students exclusively... Dublin bus' new restructure is long overdue don't oppose it.

Amoung some of the more epic features, Stillorgan as a bottleneck (as well as baggot street btw) will be scrapped. Making 46as significantly more frequent, don't believe me? Stand at that bus stop on the N11 near tribe and look toward town, time how long it takes from a 46a to get into your view, and then reach the stop. The time a 145. It will save on average 8 minutes per journey.

The introduction of timing screens so you know when the piece of **** is gonna come...

Prepaid smarts cards (actually these are bad, I can almost guarantee this will result in me paying more for my bus then the current 30 day, probably cause it will stop giving me student on weekends and past 5...) but **** it, its long overdue anyway.

The only thing you can bitch about is having to walk further for the bus, which btw is far more an issue for me, I do law and the fact I could get a 10 (from town) unto campus saved me half a trek.



On a different note, that 5 min intervals thing is very misleading.

If you read it fully it says average wait time of 5 mins, and 10 min intervals on the Dublin Bus website. Which is ****. But this is for all routes, the 46a if amalgamated with the 10 would presumably get more regular? And would bypass all those stupid ****ing streets between bakers corner and DL

ghostchant

Also live in the Cabinteely area, but am ~15-20 min walk to the dual carraigeway or a ~20-25 min walk to the 46a..46a is always a safer bet despite being marginally further away. Getting into town from UCD is like a holiday compared to the slow packed buses going the other way

AIR-AUSSIE

You know a facebook group saved the world once....

seraphimvc

the 1st post sounded really real, and once you have gone too far of saying they will cancel 46A route to belfield :pac:i call OP bluffing!a nice pre drink of the ball i think.

keepkeyyellow

I'm just upset that the institution that is the no10 bus is gonna be gone
At least I have it for 1st year, it was the only bus I ever needed...

Slippers 2

Will there still be a bus from the main gate to Aughrim street?

ChocolateSauce

Students get drunk and abusive, service is suspended, the SU protests, negotiates, service is resumed, students get drunk and abusive, etc. It's an endless cycle that appears year in year out (and by now I've seen more of those than most arts students ever will).

Well Dublin bus has had enough of their drivers being abused by self-entitled, petulant drunk children, and their SU who, to their disgrace and ours, never once blame the perps- all they ever say is "that's a shame, we'll do all we can to ignore the fact that students were being anti-social and blame the bus company for it instead, that'll make us look good".

Now the majority of people who aren't stupid drunk assholes have to suffer. Thanks guys.

RandolphEsq

I'm scared that people from Blanchardstown might be able to get over to UCD easier and rob us

Mr.Nice Guy

Anyone who thinks the 46A is a better bus than the 10 is wrong. Plain and simple.

ghostchant

It's all relative. The 46a goes near my house, the 10 not even remotely so, so naturally I prefer the 46a (it's also quicker into town in my experience)

Mr.Nice Guy

ghostchant wrote: »

It's all relative. The 46a goes near my house, the 10 not even remotely so, so naturally I prefer the 46a (it's also quicker into town in my experience)

True but those seats in the 46A are woeful you have to admit.

ghostchant

Which ones? There's a mixture of older and newer buses on the route (have been out of the country since January so I may be behind the times!), prefer the seats on older buses, much more comfy!

Mr.Nice Guy

ghostchant wrote: »

Which ones? There's a mixture of older and newer buses on the route (have been out of the country since January so I may be behind the times!), prefer the seats on older buses, much more comfy!

I prefer the older ones as well. When I go on a 46A though they seem to always have those big rigid chairs which are taller and less comfortable.

errlloyd

Nah, the stiffer ones have way more leg room, are you guys tall?

Its just because you can put your knees on kinda either side of the seat in front

Dytalus

I don't see the massive issue with this. The 10 is a handy bus, but really it takes a whopping five minutes at most to walk from the ten stop to the bus stop outside the main gate, where you can get any number of buses to take you to much the same location.

Mr.Nice Guy

errlloyd wrote:

Nah, the stiffer ones have way more leg room, are you guys tall?

Its just because you can put your knees on kinda either side of the seat in front

I actually thought they had less leg room because they are so rigid.

Dytalus wrote: »

I don't see the massive issue with this. The 10 is a handy bus, but really it takes a whopping five minutes at most to walk from the ten stop to the bus stop outside the main gate, where you can get any number of buses to take you to much the same location.

Ah you won't be saying that when you're running late for a lecture.

Slippers 2

Looks like details will be posted here:
www.dublinbus.ie/en/Network-Direct/Network-Direct-Phase-1

Edit: They changed the URL, so I've changed the one above.

errlloyd

I take it all back...

They are sending the 145 through Stillorgan with all the other busses now, how *&%@*! silly are these muppets.

Pigwidgeon

ok, what the fúck, looking at the map, it looks like the 84 is only going as far as cherrywood now. The means people from Greystones, Kilcoole and Newcastle are going to have to get two buses if they want to go any further, that was the only bus from here to the city centre. They are a bunch of gobshítes if that's what they're planning to do.

errlloyd

kateos2 wrote: »

ok, what the fúck, looking at the map, it looks like the 84 is only going as far as cherrywood now. The means people from Greystones, Kilcoole and Newcastle are going to have to get two buses if they want to go any further, that was the only bus from here to the city centre. They are a bunch of gobshítes if that's what they're planning to do.

I think the idea is that you don't get two busses, you get a bus then a tram.

Obvo that makes little sense cause the ticket isn't transferable.

Pigwidgeon

errlloyd wrote: »

I think the idea is that you don't get two busses, you get a bus then a tram.

Obvo that makes little sense cause the ticket isn't transferable.

Making an awkward journey even more awkward. And I thought the 84 was bad enough as it was. I emailed them for confirmation on what they're doing with it anyway.

errlloyd

kateos2 wrote: »

Making an awkward journey even more awkward. And I thought the 84 was bad enough as it was. I emailed them for confirmation on what they're doing with it anyway.

Although I completely agree its more awkward coming from town, is there a case to say that it significantly aids anyone from that area who lives on the Luas route?

Like obviously the 84 could have detoured up there, but in the age of transferable tickets and all this malarky, changing busses isn't the hastle it used to be?

Dytalus

kateos2 wrote: »

ok, what the fúck, looking at the map, it looks like the 84 is only going as far as cherrywood now. The means people from Greystones, Kilcoole and Newcastle are going to have to get two buses if they want to go any further, that was the only bus from here to the city centre. They are a bunch of gobshítes if that's what they're planning to do.

Okay, that's plain retarded. The 84 is literally the only bus I can take to get me home unless I want to wait for the 84x (which is supposedly going to have an altered timetable). Someone needs to find the people in charge of this and smack them round the head with something heavy. I don't want the hassle of getting on a bus/luas and then having to transfer. Plus, now how the hell am I supposed to get back from college?

stop

Dytalus wrote: »

Okay, that's plain retarded. The 84 is literally the only bus I can take to get me home unless I want to wait for the 84x (which is supposedly going to have an altered timetable). Someone needs to find the people in charge of this and smack them round the head with something heavy. I don't want the hassle of getting on a bus/luas and then having to transfer. Plus, now how the hell am I supposed to get back from college?

145 + 84 I'm guessing..

Pigwidgeon

stop wrote: »

145 + 84 I'm guessing..

That's a lot more awkward, and expensive if you don't buy the prepaid tickets.

Slippers 2

www.dublinbus.ie/PageFiles/5998/Stillorgan.pdf
Awesome, the 46A will now be going all the way to the Pheonix park. No more changing to a number 10 for UCD Ninjutsu people on their way to Aughrim Street, or to a 46A on their way back home.

stop

kateos2 wrote: »

That's a lot more awkward, and expensive if you don't buy the prepaid tickets.

I doubt anyone with any sense would get an 84 (outer suburban fares) to UCD regularly without using a prepaid ticket.

The Agogo

confirmed here:

http://www.universityobserver.ie/2010/04/26/belfield-says-bye-bye-to-number-10-bus/

seraphimvc

so for those people only care about the buses from city center/oconnell street to ucd :P(like me)

46a(the best): remains the same,but it is the only dublin bus you can take now from oconnell street to ucd. 746 is the other option but who waits for a 746 :pac:
145: we can still take it at the dawson street/tritiny bus stop, same one after your shopping in grafton street.just remember to jump off right the stop before oconnell street when you are heading town tho.

any correction is welcomed!

edit: forget 46e but it is another rare bus too.

errlloyd

Well we don't actually know the fate of the 46c and 46b busses. We must assume they still exist?

In which case you have a number of options, and depending where you are trying to get to (i.e roebuck) the 46B could still be the best option.

The Agogo

Full Scoop Here:

http://www.universityobserver.ie/2010/04/26/belfield-says-bye-bye-to-number-10-bus/

RandolphEsq

The 145 will extend to Heuston Station and the 10 is being replaced by the 39A which will follow the route of the ten and terminate at the same place on campus. Nothing to worry about.
/thread

misslt

Except the 39A will not stop on O'Connell St.

So for the lazy ****es like myself, it looks like a 46a all the way to donnybrook and then jump on a 39A

Jev/N

misslt wrote: »

Except the 39A will not stop on O'Connell St.

So for the lazy ****es like myself, it looks like a 46a all the way to donnybrook and then jump on a 39A

Eh, no?

The 46A route will 'extend' into the Phoenix Park...see the PDF also - it's all the way to O'Connell Street

The Agogo

these new routes sound pretty good to be honest

misslt

No I mean heading to UCD - the 39A will now come into campus instead of the 10. The 39A does not stop on O'Connell St.

Mr.Nice Guy

misslt wrote: »

No I mean heading to UCD - the 39A will now come into campus instead of the 10. The 39A does not stop on O'Connell St.

Does it stop near O'Connell St?

misslt

It will come from Stoneybatter onto Baggot St via Bachelors walk.

http://www.dublinbus.ie/PageFiles/5998/Stillorgan.pdf - has all the changes to Stillorgan routes.

Jev/N

misslt wrote: »

No I mean heading to UCD - the 39A will now come into campus instead of the 10. The 39A does not stop on O'Connell St.

Ah right, sorry, I read that backwards!

Sad Professor

No more 25x. That's me screwed.