tennis elbow

lubo_moravcik

started training over the last couple of month, boxing being the intense part of it. had a pain in the elbow which would'nt go away, doctor informed me i have tennis elbow. he gave me difene tabs and a difene spray and told me to rest it. i've done all he said, though rest is the hardest part of it. it doesn't seem to be clearing up!!!!

is there anyone on here who has any tips on how to deal with this thing please????
are there straps i can get for my elbow that will help it, and can i use this while training again?????
can anyone recommend a good sports physio in blanch or west meath (not westmeath)??

thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dave Joyce

boxing being the intense part of it

though rest is the hardest part of it

Have you actually rested it? Make sure you're not over extending when you're boxing which will play hell with your elbows and the pain will take a long time to go away.

legend365

By rest he means REST.

I took 1 - 2 months for mine to clear up.

WalterMitty

i had this about ten years ago. I got steroid shots, physio, etc and rested for months with little or no improvement. I decided that i wanted to exercise and it was hurting me when i rested so once it doesnt hurt much more when exercising i'll tolerate it. I did loads of forearm work and massage and stretching and it eventually improved. Make sure youre using proper form on all exercises and no overextending as person said above.

WanderingSoul

Seriously, make sure you rest it. I had tennis elbow about a year ago and I kept doing TKD and horseriding for a fortnight. As a result I had to go to a physio, and I couldn't do anything for 3 months and even then I had to wear a brace and only do lightwork.

Boss_eye

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

doctor informed me i have tennis elbow. he gave me difene tabs and a difene spray and told me to rest it. i've done all he said, though rest is the hardest part of it. it doesn't seem to be clearing up!!!!

is there anyone on here who has any tips on how to deal with this thing please????

can anyone recommend a good sports physio in blanch or west meath (not westmeath)??

thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Most GP's know feck all about sports injuries and are too quick to just throw a prescription at you.
Chances are you just need some good Physio on it - Call Paul Carolan in the Dunshaughlin Pain Clinic
Cookslawn Navan Rd D'shaughlin Co. Meath
Tel: (01)8240663
He's very good, I've gone to him for years for all kinds of issues including my elbows, I'd be very surprised if he doesn't get you right.

lubo_moravcik

thanks for the responses

WalterMitty wrote: »

i had this about ten years ago. I got steroid shots, physio, etc and rested for months with little or no improvement. I decided that i wanted to exercise and it was hurting me when i rested so once it doesnt hurt much more when exercising i'll tolerate it. I did loads of forearm work and massage and stretching and it eventually improved. Make sure youre using proper form on all exercises and no overextending as person said above.

what kind of forearm work, massage and stretches would you have used??

Boss_eye wrote: »

Most GP's know feck all about sports injuries and are too quick to just throw a prescription at you.
Chances are you just need some good Physio on it - Call Paul Carolan in the Dunshaughlin Pain Clinic
Cookslawn Navan Rd D'shaughlin Co. Meath
Tel: (01)8240663
He's very good, I've gone to him for years for all kinds of issues including my elbows, I'd be very surprised if he doesn't get you right.

Dunshaughlin is a bit out the way but i'll give him a ring tomorrow and hopefully he can help me out.

the pain has reduced quite well, but i can still feel the sensitivity in the elbow. still using the difene spray, an ice spray and a woman gave me 'devils claw capsules'

Applehoney

I developed tennis elbow after renovating my house
It was so bad i couldn't lift a kettle

Went to the doctor who offered me two treatments
Anti inflammatories Naproxen - didnt work
Steroidal Injection into elbow- which i refused

After a week on the tablets I returned and pleaded with him for Physio ( I am in Uk so you have to beg for stuff when its free!)
I went to about 7 physio treatments in total
in the actual treatment i had a choice of treatment. I chose acupuncture
I did the various exercise prescribed 3 times a day with an elastic band

I also got a epi band from pharmacy (€20 you can get them on line) when I used during days that i would be working it alot

This was 6 months ago now so I have to say its completely healed

Redr

I did such a thorough job of cleaning the windows last May that I developed tennis elbow - and still have it four months on! I thought that something like that would be brought on after constant repetition (eg. tennis!). Three weeks ago I gave in and went to the GP. She told me to take Nurofen constantly for a week or 10 days and there was a definite improvement. Went off the Nurofen - disaster! Back with a vengence and wakes me up every morning at around 6am. Am slow to get a shot - maybe physio? Though a pharmacist said this probably wouldn't work. Grrrr .... this is what we should be taught at school. How to mind your back, your elbows, etc.

Jayleeleezer

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

started training over the last couple of month, boxing being the intense part of it. had a pain in the elbow which would'nt go away, doctor informed me i have tennis elbow. he gave me difene tabs and a difene spray and told me to rest it. i've done all he said, though rest is the hardest part of it. it doesn't seem to be clearing up!!!!

is there anyone on here who has any tips on how to deal with this thing please????
are there straps i can get for my elbow that will help it, and can i use this while training again?????
can anyone recommend a good sports physio in blanch or west meath (not westmeath)??

thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi, you first want to get a proper assessment of your elbow as it might be many different things. From my experience doctors don't have the time to do a proper examination or history to determine if it's tennis elbow

Regards,

Jay.

Zillah

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

he gave me difene tabs and a difene spray and told me to rest it.

I know this thread is seven years old but this struck me as interesting. Difene is just a painkiller. I find the idea of giving someone painkillers for an injury that is caused by overuse and telling them to rest the joint are a little at odds. The medication masks the pain, which would prompt you to use it more than you should.

A friend of mine had a back injury and was high on painkillers and out and about doing his normal day. I said to him surely that was a bad idea, because if he didn't take the painkillers then the pain would tell him what was or was not safe to do. Sure enough he was back in bed a couple days later having aggravated the injury.

I wouldn't take painkillers for that sort of injury unless I needed to for sleep or something like that. Pain is a good guide as to the safe limit for an injury.

Alf Veedersane

Zillah wrote: »

I know this thread is seven years old but this struck me as interesting. Difene is just a painkiller. I find the idea of giving someone painkillers for an injury that is caused by overuse and telling them to rest the joint are a little at odds. The medication masks the pain, which would prompt you to use it more than you should.

A friend of mine had a back injury and was high on painkillers and out and about doing his normal day. I said to him surely that was a bad idea, because if he didn't take the painkillers then the pain would tell him what was or was not safe to do. Sure enough he was back in bed a couple days later having aggravated the injury.

I wouldn't take painkillers for that sort of injury unless I needed to for sleep or something like that. Pain is a good guide as to the safe limit for an injury.

Difene isn't just a painkiller though. It's an anti-inflammatory (NSAID).

So difene to address the pain and inflammation until the problem subsides before addressing why the problem occurred in the first place seems fair enough. It's not always just overuse but overuse of a movement that may need to be modified or just strengthening the forearm extensors.

Zillah

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Difene isn't just a painkiller though. It's an anti-inflammatory (NSAID).

So difene to address the pain and inflammation until the problem subsides before addressing why the problem occurred in the first place seems fair enough. It's not always just overuse but overuse of a movement that may need to be modified or just strengthening the forearm extensors.

The anti inflammatory aspect is just for comfort, though, just like the analgesic. It still doesn't treat the condition in the way that antibiotics treat an infection. It doesn't make the situation better, it just makes you feel better about the situation. So while you wait for the problem to subside, you're overusing the damaged bodypart while suppressing the pain and discomfort that would naturally be dissuading overuse otherwise. So it doesn't subside, like OP was experiencing.

Don't take painkillers and your body will tell you when you're doing something that is bad for the injury. Take painkillers and it'll be screaming out and you won't hear it.

Alf Veedersane

Zillah wrote: »

The anti inflammatory aspect is just for comfort, though, just like the analgesic. It still doesn't treat the condition in the way that antibiotics treat an infection. It doesn't make the situation better, it just makes you feel better about the situation. So while you wait for the problem to subside, you're overusing the damaged bodypart while suppressing the pain and discomfort that would naturally be dissuading overuse otherwise. So it doesn't subside, like OP was experiencing.

Don't take painkillers and your body will tell you when you're doing something that is bad for the injury. Take painkillers and it'll be screaming out and you won't hear it.

You would presume that a proper doctor would identify the problem or recommend that he go to a physio to have the root cause addressed; in the meantime take the difene to manage the discomfort, reduce inflammation and don't do movements that caused the issue in the first place.

If you're not doing the movement that caused the issue, the difene isn't masking anything. It's just removing the discomfort. Not every movement that causes pain with an injury is a problematic one.

Zillah

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

It's just removing the discomfort. Not every movement that causes pain with an injury is a problematic one.

Yes and no. If you give yourself a back injury trying to lift something improperly, you can be sure that lifting things won't be the only kind of movement that will aggravate it. Similarly, if you get tennis elbow playing tennis, that doesn't mean that once the injury is incurred that there aren't movements outside of tennis that will aggravate it.

This is my favourite seven year old debate.

Alf Veedersane

Zillah wrote: »

Yes and no. If you give yourself a back injury trying to lift something improperly, you can be sure that lifting things won't be the only kind of movement that will aggravate it. Similarly, if you get tennis elbow playing tennis, that doesn't mean that once the injury is incurred that there aren't movements outside of tennis that will aggravate it.

This is my favourite seven year old debate.

So why not take difene and remove that discomfort? It's not being used as a means to carry on playing tennis because your tennis elbow isn't as sore.

Lubo Moravcik probably would have been a classy tennis player.