timms vs Sweeney

cppromotions

how do you see this one going

Big Ears

It seems like a real 50/50 fight, and should be a cracker.
I fancy Sweeney to outbox him and win it as long as his chin holds up, but that's no guarantee.

Tims is the bigger man, and is a well skilled fighter himself. His pro career has been very slow burning though, and his opposition has been quite poor.
Sweeney is possibly the more skill-full man, and unsurprisingly for a man who should be a Super-Middleweight a little more fleet-footed.
However that fight in Mexico raises real concerns and this will be a long 10 round fight, where even if Sweeney starts off better in the early rounds(as I suspect) you'd believe Tims will probably come back at him late on.

I don't see Sweeney stopping Tims(it would be extremely impressive if he did) so I'm thinking a 97-93/96-94 decision in the Mayo man's favour. I know there are plenty who will disagree with me though.

Vintagekits

I would say that people would fancy Timms over Sweeney to be honest. But like BE I fancy Sweeney to do the job, I know he is motivated and in serious training - although I would like to see him get out of Mayo when training so he doesnt have "distractions" and can focus. He should be over here in Manchester sparring with some good guys and would have been only for the 'massive eruption' in Iceland.Mexico doesnt really bother me - from what I have heard (albeit biased reports), Sweeney was well ahead and the stoppage was bogus. But I will also go with a Sweeney points victory - I just hope we see a mean and calculated Sweeney and that he can tuck the chin in and weather the 'Storm'.

Vintagekits

went down to see Sweeney train in Manchester the other day. Should have an article on ib.com and a video on youtube soon!

Vintagekits

Sweeney spitting venom in Jimmy Egans in Manchester

keane=cock

when and where is this one on lads?

Vintagekits

keane=cock wrote: »

when and where is this one on lads?

the Andy Lee undercard - should be a cracker - its a great undercard to be honest.

joepenguin

http://boxrec.com/date_search.php?yyyy=2010&mm=05&dd=15

Any ideas as to who the rest of the lads should fight? Perez is slated to fight in belfast the week before.

Vintagekits

The perfect Storm

28 April 2010 - By Leonard Gunning

I love Irish title fights and thank God we have had the chance to enjoy more and more of them over past few years – due in no small part to the efforts of Messrs Brian Peters, Tomas Rohan and Co. and now fight fans have the chance to see one of the most evenly matched Irish title fights in many years when Mayo’s Michael Sweeney 8-1-1 (5KO) and Dublin’s Ian Tims 7-0 (2KO) lock horns for the vacant Irish Cruiserweight title as they provide main supporting contest on the undercard of the Andy Lee-Mamadou Thiam bout in Limerick on May 15.

Although tussles for domestic honours are without doubt thoroughly exciting spectacles to observe, some ingrates argue that are in danger of become somewhat of a ‘luv-in’ with participants indulging in bouts of gratuitous mutual backslapping rarely seen outside of a Fianna Fáil Ard Fheis.

Sure Jason McKay and Andy Lee crossed swords over the question of the Limerick boxers ‘heart’ and Michael Gomez brought his own brand of vinegar and thunder home in the build up to his fight with Peter McDonagh. But in reality it is not since Darren Corbett and Noel Magee tangoed in 1997 at the Ulster Hall for the last meeting for the Irish Cruiserweight title that to fighters displayed such public delight at the notion of beating their foe for a domestic honour as Sweeney and Tims have done in the run up to their much anticipated clash.

From its very conception Sweeney-Tims never going to any ordinary fight. Journalist Paddy Cronan got the ball rolling when he posted a message on social networking website Facebook asking if anyone would be interested in seeing Sweeney and Tims duke it out in 2010. Within 15 minutes the pair had cordially agreed to the proposal and were seeking a promoter to stage the contest. But despite the initial encounter going so smoothly it all then got a little sour after it was suggested that Sweeney couldn’t sell tickets or make the weight.

Relations went rapidly further downhill when Tims was quoted in a press release stating that the Mayo man, who carries the moniker ‘The Storm’ was more a “storm in a tea cup” as opposed to a severely disturbed state of astronomical atmosphere and then went on to suggest that Sweeney may not even turn up for the fight.

Enter ‘the Storm’ who was in no mood to mince his words as he talked to irish-boxing.com from his Manchester training camp as he predicted a knockout victory. “I don’t know what he is talking about; he is acting the clown alright. He is probably hoping I don’t turn up but it’s stupid of him to think I won’t be there and I don’t know what vibes he is getting because I will never back down from anyone.

"To say I won’t turn up is a bit stupid and he could have come up with something else better than that because he sounds daft. That talk would only make me want it more and I don’t like to blow hot air but this fight isn’t going past five rounds, that’s not being a big head but I am just going to get in there and tear into him” blasted Sweeney following a tough workout with Steve Egan.

The Ballinrobe native went on to explain “I know Ian and I sparred with him before and got the better of him but of course I am not just going to go on that or get too excited about it, what I am going to do what I am told by Steve (Egan) and focus on the fight.”

Sweeney went on to say “I believe I will come out on top of the fight and should be favourite going into it. Preparation is going well, I have been running hard, up early in the morning at half five, running by six, then in the gym at half nine and doing some strength work and then boxing training at three. It is a hard routine but once my head is into it everything else will fit into place.”

the rest of the article is here..................... http://www.irish-boxing.com/stories/april10/apr10_the_perfect_storm.html

Big Ears

It really is a fight made by the fans(starting of course with Paddy Cronan) for the fans. This is as mouth-watering as any fight for those involved or interested in the Irish boxing scene and like Power vs Sweeney(although it was one sided) I reckon we're due a cracker while it lasts.

If anyone could upload Power vs Sweeney to Youtube I'd be very appreciative.
I've only seen it once(live) and I was admittedly a little bit intoxicated at the time. The stream was crap too.

I'd advise everyone reading this that hasn't already to pick a man out of these two to support, get your ticket(if you haven't already) and be part of what is sure to be a great occasion. I've a feeling there will be a great atmosphere for this fight, maybe not quite as big as the main event but you'll see a real intensity to it. This fight mightn't mean something to everyone, but it will mean everything to someone(well quite a few more than one, but you get what I mean ).

makl

what corbett is sayin about it @ eastside

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=23647&more=1

Vintagekits

makl wrote: »

what corbett is sayin about it @ eastside

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=23647&more=1

certainly a cat amongst the pigeons - Corbett was being lined up to fight Sweeney as well.

Whilst I agree that the BUI need to be more transparent Corbett cant be surprised that he has failed to defend his title in 10 years and its hardly a shock if he was stripped.

Also if he never had a call how does he know he was stripped because of the lapse in licence?

Vintagekits

makl wrote: »

what corbett is sayin about it @ eastside

after Corbetts performance this weekend I would say that both would beat him

joepenguin

Vintagekits wrote: »

after Corbetts performance this weekend I would say that both would beat him

See he nearly pulled a kanye west and acted like he got robbed in the semi :rolleyes:
thats a great win for okoth and a nice few pound. Hopefully the winner of Timms and Sweeney will call him out. Make for another good irish title fight.

Edit: call corbett out! although wouldnt mind seeing okoth in action with one of the irish cruiserweights.

Vintagekits

joepenguin wrote: »

See he nearly pulled a kanye west and acted like he got robbed in the semi :rolleyes:
thats a great win for okoth and a nice few pound. Hopefully the winner of Timms and Sweeney will call him out. Make for another good irish title fight.

Edit: call corbett out! although wouldnt mind seeing okoth in action with one of the irish cruiserweights.

Nick O'Keefe!

joepenguin

Putting Nick o keefe into boxrec just brings up an american middleweight from the 40s nicknames hubba bubba. Nothing in an iaba search other. Who be Nick O Keefe?

Vintagekits

joepenguin wrote: »

Putting Nick o keefe into boxrec just brings up an american middleweight from the 40s nicknames hubba bubba. Nothing in an iaba search other. Who be Nick O Keefe?

Ireland newest Cruiserweight Nick O'Keefe

joepenguin

Haha, class, i see it now, himself and Bobby Gunn dukin it out for the vacant interim iba emerald isle cruiserweight title!

On a side note here is Hubbas boxrec page: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=35176&cat=boxer

Vintagekits

this fight is now off. Tims pulled out with an as yet unknown injury?

T-K-O

Haven't seen Sweeney but Timms is pretty average.

Vintagekits

T-K-O wrote: »

Haven't seen Sweeney but Timms is pretty average.

it would have been a well matched fight.

T-K-O

Yeah so I believe shame really..

Vintagekits

T-K-O wrote: »

Yeah so I believe shame really..

the thing is I was actually looking forward to this one more than the main event to be honest. Both really wanted to get in with each other as well.

the funny bit is that Tims said that Sweeney would pull out with an "injury" before the fight. :rolleyes:

I just hope they can get someone in for Sweeney at either LHW or CW

Big Ears

I am beyond gutted, really hope they can first of all get a fight for Sweeney and hopefully a fight that is of some use to him and not just a guy looking for a soft spot on the canvas in the first or a guy looking to spoil do nothing and last the distance.

Edit: like Vintage I was also looking forward to this fight the most on the card.

T-K-O

Vintagekits wrote: »

the thing is I was actually looking forward to this one more than the main event to be honest. Both really wanted to get in with each other as well.

the funny bit is that Tims said that Sweeney would pull out with an "injury" before the fight. :rolleyes:

I just hope they can get someone in for Sweeney at either LHW or CW

A cruel twist of faith for Mr Tims I'll keep an eye out for Sweeney, maybe they can reschedule later in the year.

Big Ears

T-K-O wrote: »

A cruel twist of faith for Mr Tims I'll keep an eye out for Sweeney, maybe they can reschedule later in the year.

Sweeney did a real job on Jamie Power on the undercard of Dunne vs Poonsawat and he looked very impressive. Power however isn't the hardest guy in the world to hit and is a bit technically limited so it's hard to tell whether that fight was really a mirage or if Sweeney does indeed posess the sort of quality which could lead to European(ish) level, which he appeared to show that night. He also looked good another night I saw him fight, although did look a little open himself.

Unfortunately RTÉ never made that fight available online and it hasn't been uploaded to Youtube either(if anyone has it please do so). The problem with Sweeney is he really should be down at Super-Middleweight and has the excuse of staying at Cruiserweight and Light-Heavyweight to take on domestic rivals. There's no problem being at those weights for but otherwise he should be no more than 173/174 for non title fights and in decent shape.

joepenguin

Jim Rock for a fifth title!!!

Vintagekits

Tims vs Sweeney is off

11 May 2010 - By Leonard Gunning

One of the most highly anticipated Irish title fights of recent years has unexpectedly been called off only a matter of days before it was due to take place.

The domestic dust up between Dublin’s Ian Tims and Mayo's Michael Sweeney was set to provide the main support to Andy Lee's return to Limerick this Saturday but due to an injury which Tims sustained while sparring in training, the University of Limerick Arena bout is off.

Tims outlined that he had injured his arm in training with another source indicating that he has damaged ligaments and won’t be able to recover in time. As a result the scheduled bout with Sweeney for the vacant Irish cruiserweight title has been scrapped, leaving Sweeney in the lurch and without an opponent.

The irony is that a war of words had broken out between the two fighters last month after Tims implied that Sweeney would pull out of the fight claiming he had an injury. This twist left a furious Sweeney to lash out today at Tims, "I got a call from Tomás (Rohan, Brain Peters Promotions matchmaker) this afternoon and I knew straight away from the tone of his voice that there was something wrong. Then he said Tims was injured and was out of the fight. Tomás is looking for a replacement but I don’t know, it just all very late now" blasted Sweeney, known as ‘the Storm'.

"The thing is I am in the best shape of ....................... the rest of the article is here ................ http://www.irish-boxing.com/stories/may10/may10_tims_sweeney_off.html

Benny Lava

Got my ticket then found out it was off.

Balls.

megadodge

Very disappointed to hear of this pullout. I'm going to the bill and this was the fight I was most looking forward to. A real 50/50 fight and contrast in styles.

Hopefully they'll fight yet.

Vintagekits

I hear that Sweeney will be fighting a blown up middleweight from Beal Feirste by the name of Tommy Tolan instead - to be fair on Sweeney he is a blown up super middleweight himself.

cppromotions

Timms injured his arm about 2 weeks ago he was sparring up in Collins,s gym with Gary Hydes heavyweight vladimir chanturia after 3 rounds Timms stopped sparring after he twisted his elbow Gary Hyde can vouch for that i know for a fact he didnt spar since last saturday he tried to do a few rounds but wasnt able i go up to Collins gym and train myself and i have to say i have seen a different Ian Timms he is much more aggressive and turns on his punches more he told me he has asked to put the fight back to the next show he still wants it but Michael Sweeney is no push over either so the smart thing to do is pospone the fight if your not 100%.
I know both Ian Timms and Michael Sweeny and i think there is a lot of hype surrounding this fight so i think it would be a cracking co-feature for the next show.

Vintagekits

confirmed Sweeny got Tommy Tolan!

cppromotions

There has been so much hype surrounding this fight it should headline the next show

Vintagekits

cppromotions wrote: »

There has been so much hype surrounding this fight it should headline the next show

its not a headliner. its one for the fans but not a strong enough draw for the general public.

cppromotions

Im not talking about an RTE show but a smaller show maybe with someone like Dophil promotions who are talking about a show in late June early July
for that type of show it would be a great headliner not for TV obviously you would need a bigger name then it would be a great co-feature but i watched an Interview of Michael Sweeney after the weigh-in and he said it will not happen he will concentrate on the Lightheavy title .

Vintagekits

cppromotions wrote: »

Im not talking about an RTE show but a smaller show maybe with someone like Dophil promotions who are talking about a show in late June early July
for that type of show it would be a great headliner not for TV obviously you would need a bigger name then it would be a great co-feature but i watched an Interview of Michael Sweeney after the weigh-in and he said it will not happen he will concentrate on the Lightheavy title .

the guy he was talking to had a really sexy voice. I know I melted!

Vintagekits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97IECme_HOs

Big Ears

cppromotions wrote: »

Im not talking about an RTE show but a smaller show maybe with someone like Dophil promotions who are talking about a show in late June early July
for that type of show it would be a great headliner not for TV obviously you would need a bigger name then it would be a great co-feature but i watched an Interview of Michael Sweeney after the weigh-in and he said it will not happen he will concentrate on the Lightheavy title .

I know they **** all budget but it's perhaps something Setanta Ireland could show, which would still allow tv for the fight.
I still really want the fight to happen, but you have to question the likelyhood of it actually happening due to what Sweeney said in the interview with the guy who replicates Steve Staunton's voice.......