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Do mods have souls?

  • 21-04-2010 9:15am
    #1
    Tallon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭


    In reference to this post, would a nice, "Sorry, wrong forum, ask in in PI" not have been a bit more appropriate for a first post of a new user in a bit of a pickle?

    I don't know what the correct action to take is here. Do I PM the Cmod and mention it, do I PM the user with a link to PI, or do I PM the mod in question and risk being moaned at about 'Telling a mod how to mod'


    /dilema
    Post edited by Shield on


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  • #2
    IITYWYBMAD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭IITYWYBMAD


    **** answer tbh. Don't know how this place holds on to new users, with mods like that in place.


  • #3
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Pm the cat mod would be what I'd suggest.


  • #4
    LoLth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,339 ✭✭✭✭LoLth


    yep. if you have an issue with a mod post or decision, the cmod is the person to contact or, you can PM the mod themselves and POLITELY outline your issue.

    @IITYWYBMAD : I can honestly say from dealing with helpdesk posts, many of which are asking general stuff like "how do i get my cat out of my toaster before it goes on fire" and "how would you describe orange to a blind israeli" that I can understand the temptation to be less than friendly and helpful.


  • #5
    IITYWYBMAD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭IITYWYBMAD


    LoLth wrote: »
    yep. if you have an issue with a mod post or decision, the cmod is the person to contact or, you can PM the mod themselves and POLITELY outline your issue.

    @IITYWYBMAD : I can honestly say from dealing with helpdesk posts, many of which are asking general stuff like "how do i get my cat out of my toaster before it goes on fire" and "how would you describe orange to a blind israeli" that I can understand the temptation to be less than friendly and helpful.

    Really? It takes as much binary to say f**k off you twat, as it does to say, wrong forum try here->...my 2c.


  • #6
    TheZohanS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Just PM the mod that locked the thread, most mods are quite reasonable and will move it to PI with a redirect.

    If it was me I probably would have linked to the RL forum but mods are human too, that mod might have been caught on the bounce or been dealing with any amount of other crap.


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  • #7
    Tallon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    TheZohan wrote: »
    mods are human too

    Oooooh right, Did not know that.....

    I'll PM it Him now :)


  • #8
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Yeah that was a poopy answer, but just like everyone else in every position of some form or responsibilty anywhere, they can simply be having a bad day.

    Personally wouldn't (and haven't, actually )take it the wrong way if someone says... "that was a little bit harsh imo" via pm.


  • #9
    Tom Dunne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    TheZohan wrote: »
    mods are human too, that mod might have been caught on the bounce or been dealing with any amount of other crap.

    ^This. So instead of tarring all mods with the same brush, there may be more to a comment such as that quoted above.

    Another alternative to what LoLth said above is to report the post - CMods get copied on reported posts.


  • #10
    Tallon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    ^This. So instead of tarring all mods with the same brush, there may be more to a comment such as that quoted above.

    No tarring going on here, just wanted to know the correct course of action.

    The thread title was mearly a cheap tactic to get it looked at quicker :)


  • #11
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    I'd have been far less sympathetic to the same post. How hard is it to stop and think whether audio/video editing is the place to ask about your deadbeat boyfriend? It's not as if the forum was full of personal issues, or didn't have its own title in big letters at the top. Mollycoddle people and they'll just end up with a sense of entitlement, and they'll "Baaaaaaaaawwwww" all the harder when reality catches up with them.

    On a side note, I sold my soul for some magic beans. They swiftly turned out not to be magical. At first I was angry, but then I realised souls don't exist and I got free beans. So I made a burrito instead. I think I came out ahead of the game.

    EDIT: Damn, I just realised a better answer would have been "Yes, but we're not soldiers."


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  • #12
    Tom Dunne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    Tallon wrote: »
    The thread title was mearly a cheap tactic to get it looked at quicker

    And I think it has worked. Damn you. :)
    Sarky wrote: »
    On a side note, I sold my soul for some magic beans. They swiftly turned out not to be magical. At first I was angry, but then I realised souls don't exist and I got free beans. So I made a burrito instead. I think I came out ahead of the game.

    Report it to the Adverts mods for false advertising.


  • #13
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Sarky wrote: »
    I'd have been far less sympathetic to the same post. How hard is it to stop and think whether audio/video editing is the place to ask about your deadbeat boyfriend? It's not as if the forum was full of personal issues, or didn't have its own title in big letters at the top. Mollycoddle people and they'll just end up with a sense of entitlement, and they'll "Baaaaaaaaawwwww" all the harder when reality catches up with them.


    Couldn't disagree more, to be honest.

    People make mistakes when they are new. Maybe she clicked back or something by accident before she wrote the thread.

    The above attitude actually kind of reminds me of when you're learning to drive, and have L plates up and make a mistake. There's always one person who is flashing their lights or on their horn.

    How does this help anyone? It only stresses or even scares away the new guy. No one wins.


  • #14
    Spiritoftheseventies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,082 ✭✭✭✭Spiritoftheseventies


    Sarky wrote: »
    I'd have been far less sympathetic to the same post. How hard is it to stop and think whether audio/video editing is the place to ask about your deadbeat boyfriend? It's not as if the forum was full of personal issues, or didn't have its own title in big letters at the top. Mollycoddle people and they'll just end up with a sense of entitlement, and they'll "Baaaaaaaaawwwww" all the harder when reality catches up with them.

    On a side note, I sold my soul for some magic beans. They swiftly turned out not to be magical. At first I was angry, but then I realised souls don't exist and I got free beans. So I made a burrito instead. I think I came out ahead of the game.
    I got a similiar response on a thread. first reply was okay but second poster a mod having thanked second post then added in two pence worth which I felt was un necessary especially given it was on a tv thread.


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055886539


  • #15
    old_aussie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Yes Mods definitely have a soul


  • #16
    tbh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »
    I got a similiar response on a thread. first reply was okay but second poster a mod having thanked second post then added in two pence worth which I felt was un necessary especially given it was on a tv thread.


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055886539

    the person who suggested you move to another forum wasn't a TV mod. The second was, and locked the thread. I'm guessing in that case the TV mod was saying "yep, you got good advice there, that's why I'm locking the thread". If you felt that was them "getting their 2 pence in", it just goes to show, sometimes you're dammed if you do and dammed if you don't.


  • #17
    5starpool
    Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »
    I got a similiar response on a thread. first reply was okay but second poster a mod having thanked second post then added in two pence worth which I felt was un necessary especially given it was on a tv thread.


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055886539

    What are you complaining about there? The second post was in no way rude, was verifying (as a mod of that forum) that the link and advice was correct, and was in no way similar to anything except helpfulness.

    You are a lot of hard work to keep happy I'd say.


  • #18
    Tallon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »
    I got a similiar response on a thread. first reply was okay but second poster a mod having thanked second post then added in two pence worth which I felt was un necessary especially given it was on a tv thread.


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055886539

    He wasn't adding his 2c, he was giving a reason as to why he was locking the thread since The Recliner isn't a mod of TV and doesn't have the power to lock it. I think it was necessary as people (incl me) don't like when threads are locked with no apparent reason why :)


    EDIT: C-C-C-C-Combo breaker


  • #19
    Spiritoftheseventies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,082 ✭✭✭✭Spiritoftheseventies


    Tallon wrote: »
    He wasn't adding his 2c, he was giving a reason as to why he was locking the thread since The Recliner isn't a mod of TV and doesn't have the power to lock it. I think it was necessary as people (incl me) don't like when threads are locked with no apparent reason why :)


    EDIT: C-C-C-C-Combo breaker
    Well to be fair OP posted in a thread that was totally un related so can understand why mod might have got a bit frustrated.
    Just go the impression that second reply to my post was a bit short.


  • #20
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    It's a bit of harmless fun, mountain out of a molehill tbh

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • #21
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,083 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    I remember a time where not bothering to look for a correct forum to post something in would get you a lot worse than a locked thread and a polite message to try elsewhere.

    /goes to Music reviews forum to ask about spots on his willy...


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  • #22
    Tallon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »
    Well to be fair OP posted in a thread that was totally un related so can understand why mod might have got a bit frustrated.
    .

    Yeah but the key point is the word 'Newbie' ...... We were all there once

    And mods should have a bit more relaxtitude to posts like that, IMO


  • #23
    Spiritoftheseventies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,082 ✭✭✭✭Spiritoftheseventies


    Tallon wrote: »
    Yeah but the key point is the word 'Newbie' ...... We were all there once

    And mods should have a bit more relaxtitude to posts like that, IMO
    Sorry where did Mod use the word Newbie?


  • #24
    tbh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »
    Sorry where did Mod use the word Newbie?

    what are you talking about? Stop trying to score points.the point that tallon was making was clear - it honestly seems like maybe you have a problem understanding things on boards, with respect. Two examples in one thread where what was extremely clear to the majority was lost on you.


  • #25
    Tallon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »
    Sorry where did Mod use the word Newbie?

    You should learn the difference between ' and "


  • #26
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    Couldn't disagree more, to be honest.

    People make mistakes when they are new. Maybe she clicked back or something by accident before she wrote the thread.

    Well now she knows.
    The above attitude actually kind of reminds me of when you're learning to drive, and have L plates up and make a mistake. There's always one person who is flashing their lights or on their horn.

    How does this help anyone? It only stresses or even scares away the new guy. No one wins.

    Conversely, how will they even know it's a mistake if nobody mentions it? Learner makes mistake, all the friendly drivers don't flash their lights or beep. Learner can then think it's not a big deal, they'll keep doing it until they crash. Ok, that's a bit extreme, but people don't learn (or take far, FAR longer to learn) from mistakes if people don't call them out on it.

    I understand what you mean, and you have a valid point, but since I'm a firm subscriber to the opposite, We'll probably never resolve this.


  • #27
    Spiritoftheseventies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,082 ✭✭✭✭Spiritoftheseventies


    Tallon wrote: »
    You should learn the difference between ' and "
    :confused:


  • #28
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,083 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Tallon wrote: »
    You should learn the difference between ' and "

    There is no difference.


  • #29
    Spiritoftheseventies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,082 ✭✭✭✭Spiritoftheseventies


    Tallon wrote: »
    You should learn the difference between ' and "
    Oh i see what you did there. Thing is I didnt use either


  • #30
    Tallon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    Sarky wrote: »
    Well now she knows.
    And may not come back because of the attitude of the mods, having already been obviously going trough something in her personal life
    Sarky wrote: »
    Conversely, how will they even know it's a mistake if nobody mentions it? Learner makes mistake, all the friendly drivers don't flash their lights or beep. Learner can then think it's not a big deal, they'll keep doing it until they crash. Ok, that's a bit extreme, but people don't learn (or take far, FAR longer to learn) from mistakes if people don't call them out on it.

    Theres a huge difference between positive and negative feedback

    "Relax on the clutch a bit" "Get your ****ing foot off the ****ing clutch"

    See the difference?


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  • #31
    Tallon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »
    Oh i see what you did there. Thing is I didnt use either

    lol, then you don't see........


  • #32
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,083 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Tallon wrote: »
    Theres a hugh difference between positive and negative feedback

    "Relax on the clutch a bit" "Get your ****ing foot off the ****ing clutch"

    See the difference?

    Yes. Wasn't it nice of the mod to opt for the former rather than "Get your ****ing ass out of my forum?".


  • #33
    Spiritoftheseventies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,082 ✭✭✭✭Spiritoftheseventies


    Tallon wrote: »
    lol, then you don't see........
    Sorry I simply asked where the mod used the word Newbie. And to be fair he provivded poster with a link. Dont think there is any need to pm any cm on this IMO and i had no intention about pming CM on my issue either.


  • #34
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Tallon wrote: »
    "Relax on the clutch a bit" "Get your ****ing foot off the ****ing clutch"

    See the difference?

    Yes. One will have to be repeated.


  • #35
    tbh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »
    Sorry where did Mod use the word Newbie?

    where did tallon say the mod used the word newbie.


  • #36
    Tallon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »
    Sorry I simply asked where the mod used the word Newbie. And to be fair he provivded poster with a link. Dont think there is any need to pm any cm on this IMO and i had no intention about pming CM on my issue either.

    Oh dear god, The link is there now Because I PM'd the mod as advised!
    Last edited by Lump; Today at 12:06.

    The mod didn't use the word newbie, at all, I never said that !

    And can I say, fair play to Lump for his edit, clearly wasn't meant in an aggresive way :)
    Lump wrote:
    Sorry, Personal Issues is here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=127


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  • #37
    Spiritoftheseventies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,082 ✭✭✭✭Spiritoftheseventies


    Tallon wrote: »
    Yeah but the key point is the word 'Newbie' ...... We were all there once

    And mods should have a bit more relaxtitude to posts like that, IMO
    Sorry maybe i took poster up wrong. Thought poster was referring to mod. I think what Stark said was right re the mods behaviour. Link was posted to aid poster and would see no reason to report it.


  • #38
    The Recliner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,630 ✭✭✭The Recliner


    So Feedback works. Yah!
    And fair play to Lump for acting on it

    However it might be something to bring to Feedforward, a discussion about how Boards Mods/Admins/Posters treat and interact with newbies, if it isn't soemthing that has already been highlighted for discussion


  • #39
    Tallon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »
    Sorry maybe i took poster up wrong. Thought poster was referring to mod.

    " is used to quote something someone said, iirc
    Thats why I used '
    Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »
    I think what Stark said was right re the mods behaviour. Link was posted to aid poster and would see no reason to report it.

    link was posted After I started this thread, and After I PM'd the mod


  • #40
    Ticktactoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭Ticktactoe


    With all the agro going on here, the most respectable thing done was Lump editing his post. Well done.

    Im sure mods make mistakes but they should accept these mistakes gracefully and not start bickering about them when someone points them out. Of course visa versa works here too.

    A little less fighting and a little more love :D:D:D


  • #41
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Sarky wrote: »
    Yes. One will have to be repeated.

    And the other might make the new person give up driving.


    But yeah, agree to disagree and all that. :)


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  • #42
    Spiritoftheseventies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,082 ✭✭✭✭Spiritoftheseventies


    Tallon wrote: »
    " is used to quote something someone said, iirc
    Thats why I used '



    link was posted After I started this thread, and After I PM'd the mod
    Oh I See


  • #43
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,083 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Ticktactoe wrote: »
    Im sure mods make mistakes but they should accept these mistakes gracefully and not start bickering about them when someone points them out. Of course visa versa works here too.

    It's vice versa.


  • #44
    Tallon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    Stark wrote: »
    It's vice versa.

    There are some things money can't buy...


  • #45
    Tom Dunne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    Ok, I think this thread has served it's purpose.

    And I will leave you with one final thought:

    Q:How do you make a soul singer out of a duck?

    A: Put him in the oven until his Bill Withers.


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