Freestanding bath weight and radiator valve size

guideanna

Hey there,
I'm just picking out all my sanitary wear for new build and wondering how i could do this.
I wanted to have the bath up on a kind of platform in the bathroom. Would i need to use blocks to build this if it's to support the weight of a bath full of water? Is this ok to do after floorboards go down?
Also another random q, was looking at towel rails on a uk based website and the valve width on them is 15mm, is this ok to connect to my pluming?

sydthebeat

guideanna wrote: »

Hey there,
I'm just picking out all my sanitary wear for new build and wondering how i could do this.
I wanted to have the bath up on a kind of platform in the bathroom. Would i need to use blocks to build this if it's to support the weight of a bath full of water? Is this ok to do after floorboards go down?
Also another random q, was looking at towel rails on a uk based website and the valve width on them is 15mm, is this ok to connect to my pluming?

raised baths look terrible if they havent been designed for purpose.
Think about the number of steps required to get into the thing, then see how much space that will take up in the room.

The only successful types ive seen were ones which were semi-sunken below floor level....

Joey the lips

guideanna wrote: »

Hey there,
I'm just picking out all my sanitary wear for new build and wondering how i could do this.
I wanted to have the bath up on a kind of platform in the bathroom. Would i need to use blocks to build this if it's to support the weight of a bath full of water? Is this ok to do after floorboards go down?
Also another random q, was looking at towel rails on a uk based website and the valve width on them is 15mm, is this ok to connect to my pluming?

No you dont need blocks. You need heavy wood and sheets. You build a box section and instead of braceing it every couple of feet you brace it 3 times as much. The most important part is the frame and the thickness of the sheet the tile will be sitting on. There should be no give in this. Although this is impossible this is the aim.

The reason you dont use steel is wood is lighter and a strong frame is achievable.

How I have seen the bath sitting lovely is instead of Sideways or lengthways place id diagonally on the platform. If its a slipper form the higher end goes to the back. If its a standard roll top then the cloice is yours.. But bear in mind with traditional baths a massive amount of work needs to be done before the bath sees the house.

guideanna

That was totally no help to my query sydthebeat, i totally disagree about the platforms. Think they look stunning.

Joeythelips, thanks for your reply, i am planning on placing the bath diagonally alright want it to be the first thing you see when you walk into the room and really want to show it off tho haven't fully decided on the bath itself yet. Recessed bath would also not be totally out of the question. It'll ony be one, maybe 2, steps so it's more about the platform that the steps.

Joey the lips

guideanna wrote: »

That was totally no help to my query sydthebeat, i totally disagree about the platforms. Think they look stunning.

Joeythelips, thanks for your reply, i am planning on placing the bath diagonally alright want it to be the first thing you see when you walk into the room and really want to show it off tho haven't fully decided on the bath itself yet. Recessed bath would also not be totally out of the question. It'll ony be one, maybe 2, steps so it's more about the platform that the steps.

btw on the radiator valves they are all 15mm. You can buy irish 1/2" however most plumbers will buy a chrome 1/2" and use an irish olive.

If you choose to sink the bath the frame can be lighter as all the weight should be on the floor now. The achieved look with a sunken bath is you climb steps and down into the bath.(Not child friendly)

However its lovely.

Bear in mind if you are really going to sink it you will save yourself a small fortune as you wont need all the exposed chrome pipe. usually on a sunken bath I would use 2 no 300mm steps. They are the height of a mosaic sheet so if you choose to mosaic the steps its a lovely finish.


My own personal opinion is the bath on the platform impresses the women more as all the exposed pipework makes the bath look a million dollars.

However it is more work.

Do not use a cheap ceramic under the bath. It will crush. Make sure the tiler uses flex adhesive.

It might be no harm paying a contractor to do the whole job makeing the contractor responsable for the tiles breaking.

Any more questions ask away. Its a brilliant look but a mine field if not careful

guideanna

Thanks so much your a mindful of info. Will have to talk to the plumber before i go buy anything so. Like the idea of the steps to match the mosiac tiles...saving you a lot of bother just by something small.
Might come back to you if i think of anything else.

sydthebeat

guideanna wrote: »

That was totally no help to my query sydthebeat, i totally disagree about the platforms. Think they look stunning.

perhaps you didnt read my post correctly... i said

sydthebeat wrote:

raised baths look terrible if they havent been designed for purpose

I have highlighted a word you may have missed.

The reason i draw your attention to 'design' is because any steps need to comply with the following document. This is not simply a case of throwing a few steps in.

http://www.environ.ie/en/Publications/DevelopmentandHousing/BuildingStandards/FileDownLoad,1651,en.pdf

three steps or less only have to comply with regulations in terms of going, rise and pitch.

if you have more than 3 steps you need to comply fully with the regulations.

for one small example, if the steps are more than 1.0 m wide or less, you must provide a handrail....
if more than 1.0 m you are required to install two handrails....

had you factored any of this in??? 3 steps will not get you to the top of a bath....

Joey the lips

Interesting article.... On a sunken bath if you only produce one step at 300mm high it can be called a ledge and therefor is exempt from the stairs rule.

Its how we got away with it.... The irony is that in our showroom we had to fence the step off as you rightly point out the planning guidelines were more restrictive....