IS IT TRUE?

saraasull

A beautician told me that 90% of ageing is caused by the sun!! I find this very hard to believe as people will get old looking regardless imo.
If a person wears suncream on their face every day and lets no sun in, do you think this person will have not a single wrinkle or line by the age of 50? If it is true, why arent we all wearing suncream with spf 50??

shellyboo

Um... Everyone gets old, yes. Trying to delay that by wearing factor 50 every day is fairly futile. Sure, use moisturiser with sunblock... But it's hardly worth fretting over.

Dudess

saraasull wrote: »

If a person wears suncream on their face every day and lets no sun in, do you think this person will have not a single wrinkle or line by the age of 50?

No, but possibly a lot less than they would if they didn't wear it. I've always protected my skin from the sun and yes, I am reaping the benefits as I just have a few fine lines on my forehead which are only visible under harsh light, and that's it - I'm nearly 32 (trade-off is a good few white hairs though ). But that could be genes too as my mother is a very young-looking 63. However she has always protected her skin from the sun too, whereas my nana (her mother) had extremely wrinkled skin - and she loved the sun and smoked very heavily.

Wibbs

Its a huge amount of obvious aging. Look at black women(and men). They have far less wrinkles than the equivalent paler skinned person. "Black don't crack" courtesy of built in factor 15 or 20. The problem is a lot of that damage has happened by the time people are 20 so..... Plus avoiding the sun means less, much less vit d which many are low in anyway. Not good.

Dudess

Yup - Denzel is 50-odd and youthful as ever. Nyom.

seanybiker

How come this is in ladies forum. Im a man and I have skin to. sexists :pac:

krudler

saraasull wrote: »

A beautician told me that 90% of ageing is caused by the sun!! I find this very hard to believe as people will get old looking regardless imo.
If a person wears suncream on their face every day and lets no sun in, do you think this person will have not a single wrinkle or line by the age of 50? If it is true, why arent we all wearing suncream with spf 50??

Not really, as there are loads of factors which can prematurely age your skin, plus no sun means less vitamin D which means you'd have a hormone deficiency, and can be more prone to osteoporosis in later life.

As in life, everything is best in small doses, you dont want to wind up looking like a leather handbag but the vampire look isnt good either

Xiney

I think the amount of sunshine I get on a normal Irish day does not warrant me wearing an SPF, and I say that as quite a pale person.

When the sun is definitely shining, yes.

And I never tan in the sun on purpose. (futile anyway - I turn into a lobster)


I'm a greaseball though so I have less to worry bout wrinkles than the rest of ye - built in moisturizer woo!

MissIT

Dudess wrote: »

Yup - Denzel is 50-odd and youthful as ever. Nyom.

oh my god I just looked it up.. he's 55 :O.. I want his babies like.. wierd did not think he was that age!

I used to love the sun and getting a tan. don't think its worth it anymore though

Wibbs

Xiney wrote: »

I think the amount of sunshine I get on a normal Irish day does not warrant me wearing an SPF, and I say that as quite a pale person.

When the sun is definitely shining, yes.

Still be careful though we can get a lot of UV in these latitudes even through clouds. Though Vit D is very important for health and very few get enough.

Danniboo

FYI apparentely getting your eyebrows waxed increases wrinkles around the eyes.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

When I was in Lanzarote a few months ago we met a few Scandinavians(sp?) and they were well into their 50s and 60s but not a single wrinkle on them, lovely skin.

Xiney

Wibbs wrote: »

Still be careful though we can get a lot of UV in these latitudes even through clouds. Though Vit D is very important for health and very few get enough.

Well - yes. But if it's not sunny it's raining so I'm wearing a hat. LOL.

Madame Razz

Wibbs wrote: »

Its a huge amount of obvious aging. Look at black women(and men). They have far less wrinkles than the equivalent paler skinned person. "Black don't crack" courtesy of built in factor 15 or 20. The problem is a lot of that damage has happened by the time people are 20 so..... Plus avoiding the sun means less, much less vit d which many are low in anyway. Not good.

Black skin tend to be much oilier than your average white persons skin tho; that's another significant reason why black people don't show wrinkles as easily or seem to age so quickly.

I think the sun plays a factor yes, but genes play a huge role aswell. And if you look after your skin apart from sunscreen at all I think that helps greatly also.

That said I'll get back to you in 20 years and let you know how I fair out:P

ravima

any forensic pathologist worth his/her salt will tell you that we all age at a standard rate of 24hrs per day.

Spanish Eyes

ravima wrote: »

any forensic pathologist worth his/her salt will tell you that we all age at a standard rate of 24hrs per day.

And those who don't are botoxed!

goat2

i do beleive that
anyone who is a sun worshipper, just take a close look at their skin, it is like leather, tan leather at that, if the sun can fade wood, stone, paintwork, can you emagine what it can do to your skin, look at anything black you put outside, leave it on the line for a week in the sun, it come back in looking grey

Wibbs

ravima wrote: »

any forensic pathologist worth his/her salt will tell you that we all age at a standard rate of 24hrs per day.

People age differently and at different rates. Genetic abilty to repair damage, the level of damage itself, the basic robustness of the various parts of the body to start with etc. We all know healthy gym bunny types who look older than chain smoking alcos.

They found this from studying very long lived people(over a 100). Some were smokers, some never smoked, some were mad for the gargle some weren't, some were thin, some were overweight(the oldest person ever known, a french woman, enjoyed a drink, smoked and liked her grub). They have certain genes that protected them. Most important of which seems to be involved in insulin regulation. Psychological factors are a biggy. A sense of community and especially purpose adds years to people(as it seems does some spiritual faith). Look at Winston Churchill, a heavy drinking, chain smoker with a belly such that the BGRH forum have a bronze statue of the chap. Live to be 90.

Looking younger than your years is apparently a pretty good indicator for internal damage too. Generally it seems looking "10 years younger" means internally you are likely to be biologically younger. Indeed one insurance company suggested interviews for life insurance should ask what age people think someone is as its a good indicator of risk(actually an insurance co may be a better yardstick of how long you'll live than a doctor. Theyve more to lose if they get it wrong ).

So many things affect biological age, only chronological age is a constant.

dlofnep

I dunno man, Ireland isn't exactly known for it's sun and I've seen some load of leatherheads in my day!

Giselle

Article on the various aspects of ageing.

http://www.skincarephysicians.com/agingskinnet/basicfacts.html

Research shows that there are, in fact, two distinct types of aging. Aging caused by the genes we inherit is called intrinsic (internal) aging. The other type of aging is known as extrinsic (external) aging and is caused by environmental factors, such as exposure to the sun’s rays.

We're powerless in the face of intrinsic ageing.:(

Feeona

saraasull wrote: »

A beautician told me that 90% of ageing is caused by the sun!! I find this very hard to believe as people will get old looking regardless imo.
If a person wears suncream on their face every day and lets no sun in, do you think this person will have not a single wrinkle or line by the age of 50? If it is true, why arent we all wearing suncream with spf 50??

I think it's important to wear sunscreen and drink lots of water. They're the two pieces of advice I keep hearing and reading day in and day out. I consider everything else to be a fad.

I think the beautician here was bull sh*tting though! 90%? The last time I had a facial, the beautician had me fill out a form and one of the questions on it was 'What do you want your skin to be like?'. So I put down that I'd like my skin to be the same when I'm eighty as it is now. The beautician even got a good laugh out of it, which goes to show that a lot of skin products are sold on the basis that the product will make the consumer feel good about him/herself.

I'd even go so far to say that 90% of skin products are of no use whatsoever (see what I did there?)