Robert Pattinson = Kurt Cobain

shivvyban

If online rumors are to be believed, Robert Pattinson is lined up to play Kurt in a film about his life....

I'm not quite sure what to make of this if its true...

LiNgWiStIkZ

Yep. Scarlett Johannsen is apparently going to play Courtney Love.

rovert

Five years ago on boards:

Joaquin Phoenix as Johnny Cash ick

randypriest

Here's hoping he uses a real loaded gun for the suicide scene for the realistic effect.

BlueNemo

Interesting... Anyone got any actual evidence this might indeed happen?

dr.bollocko

BlueNemo wrote: »

Interesting... Anyone got any actual evidence this might indeed happen?

Google does.
http://www.nme.com/movies/news/twilights-robert-pattinson/170254
Just speculation though.

not_xanthor

LiNgWiStIkZ wrote: »

Yep. Scarlett Johannsen is apparently going to play Courtney Love.

ROFLOL.

Diabhal Beag

There is no ****ing escaping that sideburned piece of ****

McChubbin

Must Robert Pattinson ruin everything I hold dear?!
First Salvador Dahli, then vampires and now Kurt freakin' Cobain!

FFS, this has to stop. The man gurns his way through every movie, looks like a dieased foot and CAN NOT ACT WORTH A DAMN.

This movie is going reek of utter fail.:mad:

A V A

em i was told your man from the notebook is set to play him

gabsdot40

Robert Pattison is actually a really good musician. He wrote some of the music for the Twilight movies and plays the piano too.
I think he's great and a good actor too.

BlueNemo

gabsdot40 wrote: »

Robert Pattison is actually a really good musician. He wrote some of the music for the Twilight movies and plays the piano too.
I think he's great and a good actor too.

Aye he's good with an acoustic.. But I dont like him as an actor. If he ruins Kurt for me, I will kill him

Le King

Rubbish actor.

MJ23

Fúckin pale pasty faced douchebag

rovert

MJ23 wrote: »

Fúckin pale pasty faced douchebag

Perfect for the role

unreggd

He hasnt even played a proper dead man already

The so called Twilight "vampires" are fairies!

alvapaddle

I sat through the Twlight New Moon movie, which went on for ages. Rob Patz as he is called by all the tenage fans is crap. He was boring to watch in the Twlight movie. I have seen much better vampire movies, like blade and underworld.

sarahinnavan

McChubbin wrote: »

Must Robert Pattinson ruin everything I hold dear?!
First Salvador Dahli, then vampires and now Kurt freakin' Cobain!

FFS, this has to stop. The man gurns his way through every movie, looks like a dieased foot and CAN NOT ACT WORTH A DAMN.

This movie is going reek of utter fail.:mad:

Diseased foot? That's hysterical. I'd say that he just looks constipated. Seriously over rated actor. Is only fit for Hollyoaks

MissHoneyBun

No-one is good enough to play Kurt Cobain.

Professey Chin

MissHoneyBun wrote: »

No-one is good enough to play Kurt Cobain.

Because he was just that one of a kind me arse

He can be played and played well.Just the fairy heroin addict foot face cant act so shouldn't play Cobain.The only thing they have in common is being vastly overrated

MissHoneyBun

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

Because he was just that one of a kind me arse

He can be played and played well.Just the fairy heroin addict foot face cant act so shouldn't play Cobain.The only thing they have in common is being vastly overrated

GTFO.
Nah I don't think Kurt Cobain was overrated at all. Not when you see the morons who pass for musicians these days. I think the fact that he couldn't hold a note in a bucket adds to his appeal. He had passion and loved music for the right reasons. And I'm not just referring to his music here which I really enjoy most of but can't stand some either but I've read lots of books about him and I dunno, the guy lead a very sad, lonely life. I think he desperately needed love (not of the Courtney variety) and security which maybe explains why he got with that nutbucket in the first place.

It's probably a cliche to say it but I just think he was a really unique character. Looking through his journals is really haunting in light of his death and reading about him growing up is kind of heartbreaking. I don't think the poor guy ever knew what it was to be happy. Ever. Maybe I'm just a softie but they're the conclusions I've drawn about him anyway from reading different biographies, listening to his music, reading his journals and interviews given by Dave Grohl and Krist Novaselic.

Ulysses Gaze

He can be played and played well.

Michael Pitt did a pretty good job in the Gus van Sant movie 'Last Days'. He's not playing Cobain, but a character based on Cobain. Van Sant probably didn't want to get sued by Love so the character is called Blake.

But looking at these pictures, you can tell who it's based on!





Pattinson shouldn't be allowed near the movie. I read someone suggest James MacAvoy and also the guy from The Notebook.

Asphyxia

Courtney Love casted him herself, she did the whole cast aswell as the music and a bunch of other stuff. They had to or the movie wouldn't of been aloud to be made kind of ridiculous of her. I hope Robert Patterson does a good job, I am really looking forward to this movie.

handsomecake

charlie hunnam from sons of anarchy looks like him. he should get the gig
http://images.buddytv.com/usrimages/usr23792/23792_charlie-hunnam-anarchy.jpg

Antrim Hotels

I hope this doesnt go ahead. i wonder what Dave Ghrol would say bout this? Robert is not a good actor for a start more importantly isnt Courtney already the worlds richest widow? how much more does she wana make of Kurt??

dr.bollocko

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Michael Pitt did a pretty good job in the Gus van Sant movie 'Last Days'. He's not playing Cobain, but a character based on Cobain. Van Sant probably didn't want to get sued by Love so the character is called Blake.

But looking at these pictures, you can tell who it's based on!





Pattinson shouldn't be allowed near the movie. I read someone suggest James MacAvoy and also the guy from The Notebook.

That Van Sant movie was probably one of the worst movies I have ever seen. It was pants. Dross. Boring. Crap. Pointless. Synonym.

HarlowLux

Courtney Love said herself that there's no chance in hell that Robert Pattinson is playing Kurt. She did say she'd like someone like James McAvoy,...(can't see him pulling it off in all fairness)...and she said she'd like Scarlett Johannson to play herself, to which Scarlett said recently that she loves the band Hole and thought it'd be very interesting to play her.

FredBaby!

I think it would be better to get unknown actors to play Love and Cobain. Make it edgier or something. Pattinson and Johannson are way too white bread for my liking.

LC2010HIS

McChubbin wrote: »

Must Robert Pattinson ruin everything I hold dear?!
First Salvador Dahli, then vampires and now Kurt freakin' Cobain!

FFS, this has to stop. The man gurns his way through every movie, looks like a dieased foot and CAN NOT ACT WORTH A DAMN.

This movie is going reek of utter fail.:mad:

completely agree!
He is shocking.
I dont get the whole "We are twilight actors = we are the best damn thing"
He and precious joan jett wannabe Kristen Stewart make me wanna throw up.!!! :eek:
Why the hell are these people been handed everything on a plate?

Slugs

It's a perfect combo. Both useless, both I wish were dead (1 success so far), both unbelievable cash whores, and both talentless retards (Cobain and pattinson I'm talking about). It really is perfect.

Slugs

Slugs wrote: »

It's a perfect combo. Both useless, both I wish were dead (1 success so far), both unbelievable cash whores, and both talentless retards (Cobain and pattinson I'm talking about). It really is perfect.

You need to brush up on your musical knowledge, re: Kurt. As far as Pattinson goes, yeah, whatever

MissHoneyBun

Personally I think it would be a focking travesty for Pattinson to play that role, Cobain would turn in his grave. Slugs, give the the anti-cool a rest, transparent as fock and common as muck

Slugs

Anti-cool? How so? I'd you to explain how someone with very little talent as a singer, and very little proficency as a guitar player managed to be regarded as an artist...

Smells like teen spirit? Smells like a cash cow to me Kurt...

(Bearing in mind, I don't mind nirvana as a whole, they've some 1 or 2 decent tunes, but they're COMPLETELY OVERSTATED, and musically Kurt was the worst of the 3, yet is properted as some Musical genius or god...)

MissHoneyBun

Slugs wrote: »

Anti-cool? How so? I'd you to explain how someone with very little talent as a singer, and very little proficency as a guitar player managed to be regarded as an artist...

Smells like teen spirit? Smells like a cash cow to me Kurt...

No, I take your point. But I think it's missing perspective. Smells Like Teen Spirit became a cash cow because of it's overwhelming popularity. Do you think a band shouldn't want their music to be bought and loved and attributed 'official' means of success? Just because it went mainstream doesn't undermine it's credibility -that's what I mean by anti-cool.

Also I already said on this thread that I think Kurt Cobain's lack of bottled musicality is what appealed to so many of his fans. He made the best with what he had due to his love of music and it worked. You can't blame him for that.

Slugs

MissHoneyBun wrote: »

No, I take your point. But I think it's missing perspective. Smells Like Teen Spirit became a cash cow because of it's overwhelming popularity. Do you think a band shouldn't want their music to be bought and loved and attributed 'official' means of success? Just because it went mainstream doesn't undermine it's credibility -that's what I mean by anti-cool.

Also I already said on this thread that I think Kurt Cobain's lack of bottled musicality is what appealed to so many of his fans. He made the best with what he had due to his love of music and it worked. You can't blame him for that.

I understand what you're saying, but the fact of the matter is just because something is mainstream doesn't inherently mean it's good (or bad :P). I'm not commenting on their success, they did well for themselves at the end of the day, and to deny that is being naive. What I'm commenting on is the hyped up belief that this guy was a musical and artistical genius... That belief is a joke. Out of the 4 big Seattle bands that emerged at the time, the other 3 being Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains, Nirvana possessed the least talent and also the least innovation or uniqueness. This might have something to do that the majority of material was written by Cobain. Nirvana's fame rides on the fact that Cobain blew his brains out. If it hadn't been for that, they probably would have become just a laudible joke, and the other 3 would have taken their rightful places above Nirvana.

To sum up my argument: Cobain is an overhyped untalented prat, who was, in fact, a cash cow (and yes I've listened to their entire catalogue, can't stand more than 30 minutes at a time). He doesn't deserve half the credit he gets, and when compared to many other artists at the time, he is found severely wanting (I'm comparing him, not the band, rest of the band are decent). More importantly, he certainly doesn't deserve a film to be made about him, and if there is to be one to be made about him, I'm actually glad pattinson is there, because he'll perhaps give Cobain the proper attention he deserves :P

P.s.: I don't entirely hate them, I actually have their self titled best of

rovert

Slugs wrote: »

I understand what you're saying, but the fact of the matter is just because something is mainstream doesn't inherently mean it's good (or bad :P). I'm not commenting on their success, they did well for themselves at the end of the day, and to deny that is being naive. What I'm commenting on is the hyped up belief that this guy was a musical and artistical genius... That belief is a joke. Out of the 4 big Seattle bands that emerged at the time, the other 3 being Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains, Nirvana possessed the least talent and also the least innovation or uniqueness. This might have something to do that the majority of material was written by Cobain. Nirvana's fame rides on the fact that Cobain blew his brains out. If it hadn't been for that, they probably would have become just a laudible joke, and the other 3 would have taken their rightful places above Nirvana.

To sum up my argument: Cobain is an overhyped untalented prat, who was, in fact, a cash cow (and yes I've listened to their entire catalogue, can't stand more than 30 minutes at a time). He doesn't deserve half the credit he gets, and when compared to many other artists at the time, he is found severely wanting (I'm comparing him, not the band, rest of the band are decent). More importantly, he certainly doesn't deserve a film to be made about him, and if there is to be one to be made about him, I'm actually glad pattinson is there, because he'll perhaps give Cobain the proper attention he deserves :P

P.s.: I don't entirely hate them, I actually have their self titled best of

Ok Ill humour your troll posts

One of the cited influences for bands in the modern era is a "overhyped untalented prat"? So thats a fail

Nirvana were famous prior to Cobain's death you know? So thats a fail

When has popularity ever been based on innovation and uniqueness over connecting with an audience? So thats a fail

Your meme about him being a cash cow is rather odd most band classic bands are. So thats a fail.

Okay taking Ian Curtis as a measuring stick Control was an accliamed film made about his life. But you are staying that someone who was more influencial and sold more albums shouldnt have a film made about them. So thats a fail too.

Slugs

Cute, guess I'll humour you...

Cited influence? And? So? What? You could get influence from a pile of shít lying on the floor in the corner, causing your brain to recognise symbols from the shít smears and being an influence for you to right your next album, but at the end of the day, it's still a pile of shít

Gonna hit two nails in the head here, their fame, and my calling him a cash cow. Hmm lets see where the two of these came from... Oh yes, MTV!!! Nirvana became MTV's Poster boys for "Teen rebellion" and gave "Smells like Teen Spirit" a ridiculous amount of airtime, as well as asking them to perform for them multiple times. That accounts for their fame before his death. And afterwards? Well who wouldn't want to cash in on his death? And what other "classic bands" are cash cows? (Metallica are void from the argument, they're the biggest ****ing cash cows in the business, and have sold out. End Of.)

When did Nirvana ever possess connection with the crowd, all I can see connecting is the splinters from Cobain's guitar...

Can't comment on Joy division cause I've never listened to 'em....

We seem to have a huge problem here. The main thing is you seem to thing Famous is synonymous with Talented. Might want to go and recheck your definitions.

dr.bollocko

Some people just aren't worth convincing tbh.

dr.bollocko

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Some people just aren't worth convincing tbh.

+1. Slugs your posts are so far removed from reality and music history that you are beyond help really I am reluctant to disparage anyones musical opinions, but do you REALLY believe and stand behind what you are posting?

It sounds to me like you enjoy a good debate, but really you are barking up the wrong tree here.

MissHoneyBun

Slugs wrote: »

We seem to have a huge problem here. The main thing is you seem to thing Famous is synonymous with Talented. Might want to go and recheck your definitions.

No, you're partially right. But again let me reiterate that talent alone isn't a precursor for guaranteed success and Nirvana's success is unarguable -why are you so begrudging of that? You clearly haven't read any biography's on Cobain, who in fairness worked his focking arse off to get Nirvana where they did. The rest were happy being smalltown boys but he wanted more and he got it in spades, by his own design with incredibly limited means -surely that constitutes something special about the guy?

Slugs wrote: »

When did Nirvana ever possess connection with the crowd, all I can see connecting is the splinters from Cobain's guitar....

This is the moment where you eradicate any modicum of credibility I thought you might have had. Do your homework before posting.

Slugs

There seems to be a complete misunderstanding here... I'm not arguing about their success, which I've said already, I'm arguing about his talent...

MissHoneyBun wrote:

The rest were happy being smalltown boys but he wanted more and he got it in spades, by his own design with incredibly limited means -surely that constitutes something special about the guy?

Limited means? Are you joking, he was an MTV plaster boy from the very beginning. Let's get something right here, you don't just get people like Andy Wallace to do work on an album unless it's planned and backed for a big release. Nirvana from the very beginning were intended to be cash cows. Look at the music for christ sake.

But you're not answering my arguments... You're just saying I've no credibility and my opinions are "far removed from Reality"

dr.bollocko

Because they are.

Slugs

Mind coming down off that high horse of yours and explain?

rovert

Slugs wrote: »

There seems to be a complete misunderstanding here... I'm not arguing about their success, which I've said already, I'm arguing about his talent...

Limited means? Are you joking, he was an MTV plaster boy from the very beginning. Let's get something right here, you don't just get people like Andy Wallace to do work on an album unless it's planned and backed for a big release. Nirvana from the very beginning were intended to be cash cows. Look at the music for christ sake.

But you're not answering my arguments... You're just saying I've no credibility and my opinions are "far removed from Reality"

I did you just ignored them and just made silly talking points.

I notice you've added plaster boy to your list of memes.

You are far removed from reality if you think Bleach was intended to be a cash cow. You understand what the term means right? Id love you to have a credible, grounded opinion so far I havent seen any preferring to talking out of your arse.

I hope this just a piss take on your part.

MissHoneyBun

Slugs wrote: »

Mind coming down off that high horse of yours and explain?

I sincerely hope that's not directed at me. If you read my posts Slugs, I think we've established that there's an intrinsic link between talent and success however you seem to have a hardwired and limited interpretation of what constitutes talent. And by doing so you've made this a nonversation (for me at least) as I'm not a fan of travelling in circles. No offense but your arguments come across as contrived and verbose and I'm just not buying it. Stop arguing for argument's sake.

-Hang on, Nirvana "were intended to be cash cows"? By whom? Simon Cowell? :rolleyes: Nirvana were pure focking unknowns for donkey's dude. This just get's worse. Stick a fork in me, I'm done. Seriously.

If Bleach was intended to be a cash cow, Sub Pop might have spent more than 600 quid on recording it....

rovert

Deleted User wrote: »

If Bleach was intended to be a cash cow, Sub Pop might have spent more than 600 quid on recording it....

Which the band paid for themselves not the label.

Additionally if it was meant to be a cash cow then why was so many supply issues with it. If Kurt was interested in being a cash cow why did he sign to a regional label which had such poor distribution/lack of funds?

This is what we mean when we say you're views arent credible. You arent trolling us here are just presenting a serious of dumb statements and arguments which too easy to knock down, Slugs.

Please try harder,
rovert

pwd

"nonversation" - I like that.
"plaster boy" = plastic + poster boy? - lame

Back on topic: Hard to think of someone suitable for the role. James McAcoy is an ok suggestion, just because there aren't many people who spring to mind who would be better.
Gary Oldman might be good, if they could make him look a good bit younger. Probably just too old though.

Slugs

Lawl Lawl Lawl, I was myself of this pathetic weirdness.

And before I go... the cash cow at work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYxkezUr8MQ

Yes Kurt, it does smell like a cash cow... Maybe you were stoned listening to this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm_-sW4Vktw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqN0ZOEO9oI

No Kurt, I won't come and buy your untalented rot... I'd much rather the original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1oyfG6t2ew

And to end it all, the man himself before he painted his room with his brains

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Iho1V--8G4

And MissHoneyBun, that comment wasn't at you. Thanks for providing me with a credible argument without being derogatory .


Gentleladies... I wash my hands of this weirdness

Trolololololololol

rovert

Didnt you mention Pearl Jam earlier?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7DH3iZ5VY8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcfErF3BNQs

Dunno want point you are making but here you go. At least Cobain cited those influences instead of Vedder's response that he forgot that Led Zepplin song.

As per normal this is too easy.

p.s. dodging the Bleach discussion is pretty lame btw

Slugs wrote: »

And to end it all, the man himself before he painted his room with his brains

Isnt suicide HILARIOUS

I accept this as a white flag as you'll probably get banned for making such an insensitive remark.

Slugs

[returns]

*sigh* Kurt is he still at it? Should we show him?

Kurt: But Slugs you're just indulging?

Slugs: I know Kurt, but it's fun...

Kurt: Alright, just don't hurt the boy...

Slugs: Fine, but you owe me a beer

"Geordie walker,Killing Joke's guitar player, said that the band was "very pissed off about that, but it's obvious to everyone. We had two separate musicologists' reports saying it was. Our publisher sent their publisher a letter saying it was and they went 'Boo, never heard of ya!', but the hysterical thing about Nirvana saying they'd never heard of us was that they'd already sent us a Christmas card!""

Kurt: Ouch...

Slugs: I know...

Kurt: Better quit while your ahead

Slugs: Shall we go to the bar then...

[Closes door never to return]