Movement for a New Irish Republic

AnPhoblachtNua

This is a message from An Phobalcht Nua, a new political movement in Ireland.


We sit at the greatest crossroads in our history and we must finally act to lead this Nation down the correct path. We have faced and turned back foreign enemies in our past, but now we face our greatest challenge, for the Enemy lies within. Our political system is revealing itself daily for the self-serving, inadequate, machine that it is. Our supposed moral leaders lie and deceive with impunity. And most treasonous of all, our souls, yours and mine, betray us through inaction.

We talk of our despair with our friends and family. We dream of a better future when our heads lay heavy on our pillows at night. We feel anger and bitterness at the revelations in the media about the pathetic failings of ALL our representatives.

And yet we sit idly by and make no great protestation.


However, do not feel shame. We have become so apathetic from being worn down facing wave after wave of failed Governments and Government policies and systems, cronyism, parish pump politics, inept leadership and opposition, zero economic management or vision……………………

Our elected opposition think raising their voices louder in the Dáil is all that is required to show their commitment to our interests. It is not enough, it is not nearly enough. They should be tearing down the walls of the Dáil with anger if they so represented the People. They should be dragging people from their homes and saying ‘March, march and show your anger and take back your power!’. They should be lighting torches and handing out pitchforks. But if history has thought us anything, it is that the when the opposition take power, they behave in an equally abhorrent manner. If we didn’t have faith in their policies, systems and leadership in the good times, how then can we turn to them for answers when we are at our lowest?

Look to your heart. Do you think you are being represented poorly by your Government? Do you think there are row after row of drones and puppets and narcissists across both sides of the Dáil? Do you think there are better people in this country able to lead and motivate and drive us out of this blackhole to which we have been delivered?

Do you say a strong YES to all of those questions? Then do something about it, whether here, or elsewhere.

We are New Republicans and An Phoblacht Nua is a movement for change in this downtrodden Country of ours. The time of the 1st Republic, a Republic with an inept, soul-less Political class shackled to its history, is over. It is now time for the 2nd Republic, a Republic looking to the future, a Republic that refuses to be defined by influences long since relevant, a Republic that WILL NOT, SHALL NOT, CAN NOT prosper in mind, body and pocket under the hand of a self-serving few.


An Phoblacht Nua has only 1 Primary Goal – to change the political system in this Country to put experienced, noble, just, passionate, strong, untethered leaders into the Dáil, in such numbers that real change can be brought to life. And this will bring prosperity again, and this will bring jobs again, and this will bring excellent services, and this will put that pay back in your pocket, and this will make you proud again!

When we do this, together, only then can we really be certain that change, for our benefit, will come.

An Phoblacht Nua wants to elect experienced economists and experts to run our Finances, to elect successful businesspeople to run our Trade and Enterprise areas, to elect tourism experts to run Tourism, to elect strong justice figures, such as judges and top ranking Gardaí to run the Justice portfolio etc, etc etc.

It surely is basic common sense, that someone with training as a solicitor has no basis for deciding how much money you should have in your pay-packet every week. Or someone with nothing but a political dynasty behind her, that gets demoted to the Dept. of Education because she failed to bring jobs, is not the person to be looking after the education of our kids, our future businesspeople, leaders, educators, nurses etc.

An Phoblacht Nua will track down and recruit Sector leaders, with strong reputations and make them leaders of our Country.

An Phoblacht Nua will do this by using the democratic system we have now, to bring change to the system in the future.

• Every APN TD elected will swear an oath to resign his post, if so required, when new legislation is brought in to reduce the number of TDs to a more reasonable and effective number.
• APN will change the Seanad system to build a stronger, more independent and representative oversight body to steer the Governments of the New Republic.
• APN will reduce the number of local councillors but significantly increase their power so that your elected TDs can focus on the job of running the country properly and successfully while your local representatives focus on your local needs.

People, we must bring a peaceful and democratic end to the 1st Republic. We must seek out and elect new stewards to guide us in our New Republic. We MUST, MUST, MUST take responsibility for putting in power individuals far removed from the real world and we MUST, MUST, MUST take action to replace them.

What can you do?

Well you must do more than just join a Facebook Group or have a moan in the canteen. First come to our online network, then talk with others, like yourself, about what you can do locally or nationally, then help select OUR new candidates, then ACT!!!! You must ACT, because we elected those that have failed us, so now we must seek out and elect those that will re-ignite our pride in ourselves, our society, our leadership and our Country.

http://anphoblachtnua.ning.com/

Yours sincerely,

Daniel O'Connell
New Republican

Iwasfrozen

In b4 d lock.

AnPhoblachtNua

And as we established in other conversations today, we know we may be a touch naive and idealogical to a fault, but we are frustrated, angry, determined and willing, and we will keep this going until we get the right people to get invovled.

We are starting this but we are really hoping people with real expertise and conviction will get involved and then we can drop to a support role. Our start may be a bit amateurish, but we got tired of waiting around for someone or a group with more expertise and know-how to do it.

We are not dissident Republicans, communists, socialists, etc, we just want honest, honourable people of substance, with no IOU's floating around in hundreds and thousands, to take the lead and drive us in a new direction we can be proud of and get behind.

On that note, have your way.

Permabear

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Denerick

Hey, romanticism stopped being fashionable in the early 20th century. Pearse's sick and depraved glorification of heroic young (Naked) men is also considered a dark part of our past. Just saying.

Iwasfrozen

AnPhoblachtnua wrote:

We are not dissident Republicans, communists, socialists, etc

Agree with Donegalfella, it you aren't Republicans then what's with the Irish name ?

Kiwi_knock

Good look, sounds nice on paper. In reality it would be a disaster, too many voices would lead to the State becoming more of a talking forum than an active forum. Nothing would get done. Good luck to all your supporters if it ever happens.

danman

Didn't SF try to sell us a new Republic for the past 30 years, but looking at your name, I think you know that.

It hasn't worked for them, will it work for you?

Of you're not now, or ever were in the past, related to SF, I'd advise you to change your name.

daithicarr

having an irish name doesnt make you a republican, but calling yourself a republican or a new republican would indicate you are, especially the part where they mention the enemys of times past, not terribly relevant to where we are today

daithicarr

republican or not i still agree with some of the sentiments expressed.
but then not even FF is wrong ALL of the time. im sure they have made at least one or two good choices no matter how small....... although i cant for the life of me think of any off the top of my head

dlofnep

donegalfella wrote: »

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Yeah, because Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael don't have their party names in Irish. :rolleyes:

An Phoblacht just means "The Republic".

MagicSean

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Agree with Donegalfella, it you aren't Republicans then what's with the Irish name ?

Maybe because Irish is the national language. Just a shot in the dark.

Iwasfrozen

k_mac wrote: »

Maybe because Irish is the national language. Just a shot in the dark.

That's a common misconception. Irish is one of two national languages.

I have to admit it sounds good, but I'm too weary of the Irish approach to the running of this country. I've heard enough talk over the last 30 years, and seen very little positive action.

I'd like to see some action from this new "party" before I start believing they're any different from the current parties in Ireland or the other groups I've seen whilst living in other countries.

As for the name, it doesn't matter. For myself, and quite a few of my friends, Irish names for political parties are just a reminder of how inept we Irish people are at politics and operating a country. Too much posturing.

bbbbb

Yes, a good start.
I would suggest in order to have some real change, you should start a facebook campaign as well...

Kiwi_knock

I love the fact that this group plans to overthrow the government but the most startling fact to most people is their choice of name.

moonpurple

Denerick wrote: »

Hey, romanticism stopped being fashionable in the early 20th century. Pearse's sick and depraved glorification of heroic young (Naked) men is also considered a dark part of our past. Just saying.

pearse has no history of being depraved? or no links to young lads with no clothes on,

taking on an army you cannot beat and choosing to probably be killed by their artillary is the opposite of depravity:cool:

moonpurple

good on you op, you couldn't do any worse than this cabal of self regarding underachievers:cool:

Truthrevolution

What is your position on the bankers?? How do you guys plan on dealing with that?? You going to continue co-operating with the systems we have now or try something radical??

dsmythy

What is your position full stop? Other than "anything but them".

Permabear

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Rebelheart

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

it [sic] you aren't Republicans then what's with the Irish name ?

Let me see ... maybe because they're Irish? :rolleyes:

Rebelheart

donegalfella wrote: »

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At least they are putting themselves out there and offering something. What are you offering Irish society? US-style corporate socialism instead of socialism?

Give me the socialism of Joe Higgins anyday over the corporate socialism of your fellow rightwing libertarians who are dead set against government "socialism" and "interference", except when it's to bail corporations out.

Iwasfrozen

Rebelheart wrote: »

Let me see ... maybe because they're Irish? :rolleyes:

Again:

Iwasfrozen wrote:

That's a common misconception. Irish is one of two national languages.

Why is there so much ignorance in regards to Irish these days ?

Iwasfrozen

Rebelheart wrote: »

At least they are putting themselves out there and offering something. What are you offering Irish society? US-style corporate socialism instead of socialism?

No, he is a Libertarian.

Rebelheart wrote: »

Give me the socialism of Joe Higgins anyday over the corporate socialism of your fellow rightwing libertarians who are dead set against government "socialism" and "interference", except when it's to bail corporations out.

So you would rather have trade unions running the country then businessmen who know what they are doing ?

Rebelheart

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

That's a common misconception. Irish is one of two national languages.

That's a common misconception. Irish is the national language - the key is in the word: Irish ==> Ireland. Irish is one of the two official languages of the state known as Ireland.

Article 8:

8.1 The Irish language as the national language is the first official language.
8.2 The English language is recognised as a second official language.

Rebelheart

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Again:

Why is there so much ignorance in regards to Irish these days ?

Hilarious, Iwasfrozen. You've surpassed yourself once again. (see above for the real situation)

Rebelheart

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

No, he is a Libertarian.

In fact he is, by his own definition, a "right-wing libertarian." The difference is germane. For more on right-wing libertarianism try here

Iwasfrozen

Rebelheart wrote: »

That's a common misconception. Irish is the national language - the key is in the word: Irish ==> Ireland. Irish is one of the two official languages of the state known as Ireland.

Article 8:

8.1 The Irish language as the national language is the first official language.
8.2 The English language is recognised as a second official language.

I suppose it comes down to RAW v's RAI...

Either way, it's just semantics. Maybe we could get to the real discussion instead of nit-picking like children ?

Iwasfrozen

Rebelheart wrote: »

Hilarious, Iwasfrozen. You've surpassed yourself once again. (see above for the real situation)

Once again ?

I don't even know you.

Iwasfrozen

Rebelheart wrote: »

In fact he is, by his own definition, a "right-wing libertarian." The difference is germane. For more on right-wing libertarianism try here

And it would be correct to say that a right wing libertarian is indeed a libertarian would it not ?

Therefore I was correct in saying he was a libertarian.

Rebelheart

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

So you would rather have trade unions running the country then [sic] businessmen who know what they are doing ?

Haha. Very funny, I wasfrozen. You can stop trolling any time now.

bazza1

The initial post read like the 1930's National Socialist Party idealogy in Germany, and look where that lead to. The people of Ireland will have their say at the ballotbox at the next general election. Those politicians who are percieved to have fallen short by their actions or inactions, will answer to the electorate. It is up to the people to forget party political loyaties and vote in the candidates with the most to offer, whatever party they belong to!

Rebelheart

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Either way, it's just semantics. Maybe we could get to the real discussion instead of nit-picking like children ?

Would you listen to yourself? Funny how it suddenly becomes "semantics" and "nit-picking" when you are corrected for your incorrect "correction". But when you offered that "correction" to a poster you were not attempting to engage in "semantics" and "nit-picking", it appears:

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

That's a common misconception. Irish is one of two national languages.

Liam Byrne

We have faced and turned back foreign enemies in our past......

That mindset rules me out, for a start.

Soldie

Rebelheart wrote: »

Let me see ... maybe because they're Irish? :rolleyes:

Then perhaps they should go with an English name, as that is what the overwhelming majority of Irish people speak.

Give me the socialism of Joe Higgins anyday over the corporate socialism of your fellow rightwing libertarians who are dead set against government "socialism" and "interference", except when it's to bail corporations out.

Can you point out where genuine libertarians have supported bailouts? I'd be very interested in seeing that.

Rebelheart

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

And it would be correct to say that a right wing libertarian is indeed a libertarian would it not ? [sic]

Yes it would.

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Therefore I was correct in saying he was a libertarian.

In the same way you'd be correct in saying all nationalists are nationalists, yes. The nuances of it all are flattened in the translation however so, in short, you weren't correct in any significant meaningful sense given the many views within libertarianism. There is a world of difference, for instance, between a left-wing libertarian such as Noam Chomsky and a right-wing libertarian such as the above poster.

bazza1

bazza1 wrote: »

The initial post read like the 1930's National Socialist Party idealogy in Germany, and look where that lead to. The people of Ireland will have their say at the ballotbox at the next general election. Those politicians who are percieved to have fallen short by their actions or inactions, will answer to the electorate. It is up to the people to forget party political loyaties and vote in the candidates with the most to offer, whatever party they belong to!

Err... that sounds great and all, but what do we replace the current grouping with? More career politicians?

As much as I'm skeptical of the OP and his proposed party, it does have the right idea... new people, new goals, and a split away from the traditional Irish political party. As things stand, it doesn't matter what party is voted in, they'll continue to lack the skills to run the country effectively.

nesf

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