The "Going Forward" Disease

jetsonx

There is a terrible post-Celtic tiger disease going about at the moment that most Irish business + customer service people seemed to have picked up during the boom years.

That phrase is "going forward" - was not widely used in Ireland until about 2004 but now part of the vernacular.

Now that dreaded phrase is dropped into to even the most mundane business interactions.

Do users of this phrase just realize how bad it actually sounds to the listener?

Do you they think if they drop the phrase enough times into the conversation that it makes them sound sophisticated, go-getting and ultra-urbane professionals, when in reality it just makes them sound fake.

Opinions.

genericguy

jetsonx wrote: »

Do users of this phrase just realize how bad it actually sounds to the listener?

no, because they're just blue-sky thinkers.

abouttobebanned

It's just a couple of words tbh.

IvyTheTerrible

I always wonder what other way could they go?

Trashbat

jetsonx wrote: »

That phrase is "going forward" - was not widely used in Ireland until about 2004 but now part of the vernacular.

Do you have any sources to back up this assertion?

I used it all the time in 2001. I was a visionary

Danbo!

Ugh, cant stand that management/businessy speak, have to listen to this **** in work. And have you ever seen the apprentice? **** sake. Everyone saying the same **** to impress the panel, and incredibly enough, it seems they are impressed

Bill: Why should I hire you?
Candidate: Ill pay for myself, ill hit the ground running, etc etc...
Bill:*Faints in amazement*

MagicMarker

jetsonx wrote: »

There is a terrible post-Celtic tiger disease going about at the moment that most Irish business + customer service people seemed to have picked up during the boom years.

That phrase is "going forward" - was not widely used in Ireland until about 2004 but now part of the vernacular.

Now that dreaded phrase is dropped into to even the most mundane business interactions.

Do users of this phrase just realize how bad it actually sounds to the listener?

Do you they think if they drop the phrase enough times into the conversation that it makes them sound sophisticated, go-getting and ultra-urbane professionals, when in reality it just makes them sound fake.

Opinions.

Can't talk right now, I'll touch base with you later on this.

Keano

You can add "green shoots" to that list :rolleyes:

genericguy

MagicMarker wrote: »

Can't talk right now, I'll touch base with you later on this.

just make sure we get this wrapped up by the close of play.

corkcomp

MagicMarker wrote: »

Can't talk right now, I'll touch base with you later on this.

going forward can you please try not to postpone important debates:p

NothingMan

We need to promote synergy, and be more goal oriented and team focused to help drive forward with next pahase of boards.ie paradigm shift.

For Forks Sake

NothingMan wrote: »

We need to promote synergy, and be more goal oriented and team focused to help drive forward with next pahase of boards.ie paradigm shift.

Going forward, that paradigm shift will place boards.ie at the centre of the proposed knowledge economy

TheZohanS

abouttobebanned wrote: »

It's just a couple of words tbh.

Exactly, it is what it is.

Cuddlesworth

I like pie.

ocokev

"Going Forward" is a political "At the end of the day".

Wazdakka

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Going forward, that paradigm shift will place boards.ie at the centre of the proposed knowledge economy

HA!...

I hear this in every single meeting in work.. Don't mind it though, makes me kinda laugh every time I hear it.

tipperaryboy

It's just a set of words used to make you seem clever.

bonerm

It's just another opportunity to bullshít bingo except at national level.

antodeco

LOUD NOISES

abouttobebanned

Going forward, maybe they could just say "from now on" .

Poly

Well, we are where we are, in a small open based economy. Going forward, in the context of completely f&cking up the country, blame it on those pesky Lehmen bros.

jetsonx

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Going forward, maybe they could just say "from now on" .

but only plebs and little people use this "from now on".

I could never have any respect for anybody who used a natural and much more down-to-earth phrase like "from now on"

For Forks Sake

Poly wrote: »

Well, we are where we are, in a small open based economy. Going forward, in the context of completely f&cking up the country, blame it on those pesky Lehmen bros.

Quiet Brian

consultech

OP I'll revert back to you with an opinion on this once I get it.



(The above sentence makes absolutely zero sense; I have no intention of changing back into the OP, whom I apparently was at one stage or another)

SeaFields

Wasn't it Biffo who started using this phrase?

"we need to put ourselves in the best possible position going forward"

And the press jump on it like a bandwagon because most of them cant think for themselves.


Anyway....go fcuk yourself Biffo. :mad:

SEPT 23 1989

ring fence and copperfasten

ScumLord

It always makes me think of Simpsons.

My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but
tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward,
and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.

hal9000

Going forward we have to synergize innovation in the knowledege economy! bleugh!

Wossack

I'll run it up the flagpole at the next roundtable, but I think we're primarily focusing on the low hanging fruit at the moment

Snowie

I like pie to steak and kidney pie :d with chips red suace and gravey oooooooooooooooo

Caoimhín

Look lads, we are where we are

Canis Lupus

My company has a "Growing Forwards" thing going on at the moment.

ejmaztec

"going down the sh1tter" is the new "going forward".

orourkeda

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

I always wonder what other way could they go?

Sideways. Backwards, Down the toilet, out of their own arse etc

orourkeda

There's a lot of joined up thinking in this thread. We need to display our core competencies going forward.

We need to be more proactive when thinking outside the box and manage expectations going forward..

IvyTheTerrible

orourkeda wrote: »

There's a lot of joined up thinking in this thread. We need to display our core competencies going forward.

We need to be more proactive when thinking outside the box and manage expectations going forward..

Gaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh *head explodes*

orourkeda

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Gaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh *head explodes*

If you were a team player you would push the envelope for low hanging fruit here.

We also need to take ownership of the big picture

prinz

The next person to use the phrase going forward is getting a silver bullet.

orourkeda

prinz wrote: »

The next person to use the phrase going forward is getting a silver bullet.

Touch base with the leveraged silver bullet going forward

prinz

orourkeda wrote: »

Touch base with the leveraged silver bullet going forward

I was trying to bottom line this thread but you went there, we need to get some one on one quality communication team to make sure we're not horizontally duplicating our output.

orourkeda

prinz wrote: »

I was trying to bottom line this thread but you went there, we need to get some one on one quality communication team to make sure we're not horizontally duplicating our output.

But that would mean gaining traction through turnkey solutions.

whadabouchasir

prinz wrote: »

I was trying to bottom line this thread but you went there, we need to get some one on one quality communication team to make sure we're not horizontally duplicating our output.

IN the present climate I think that a think tank needs to be put in place to adopt a more dynamic and pragmatic approach going forward in order to deal with the real issues here and establish a knowledge based economy going forwards.

bigjohnny80

Cowen uses it CONSTANTLY.

Its like the last 10 years of his fook ups don't matter.

bazmaiden

In any of the meetings i've attended lately its all been "moving forward"

its just another buzz word in the language of nobody as explained nicely in this book

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0752871862.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

its worth a read

orourkeda

bazmaiden wrote: »

In any of the meetings i've attended lately its all been "moving forward"

its just another buzz word in the language of nobody as explained nicely in this book

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0752871862.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

its worth a read

How granular

rainbowtrout

whadabouchasir wrote: »

IN the present climate I think that a think tank needs to be put in place to adopt a more dynamic and pragmatic approach going forward in order to deal with the real issues here and establish a knowledge based economy going forwards.

..because we need to grow the economy... With what???!!! Fcuking fertilizer???

Whatever happened to using the words develop/expand/increase/improve?

Farmers grow crops, we do not grow economies

mickos

orourkeda wrote: »

There's a lot of joined up thinking in this thread. We need to display our core competencies going forward.

We need to be more proactive when thinking outside the box and manage expectations going forward..

Nobody uses 'thinking outside the box' anymore, that's so 90's! Diversification is the key word in these challenging times;)

Elessar

Singing from the same hymn sheet is another.

I think I heard it twice in my working life. I wanted to punch the f*ckers who said it. (always managers)

Naos

Going forward what we need to do is speculate to accumulate. We will need to spend money to make money here, have a think about it and touch base with me at a later date.

bonzodog2

I'll get my people to talk to your people, and we can do lunch on a level playing field, OK ?