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Drink Driving Limit

  • 07-04-2010 4:22pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭


    Hi,
    I am currently doing an assignment on drink driving and am coming across a number of conflicting figures for the BAC. I was under the impression it was 35mg/100mg but a few websites have said it is 80mg/100mg. Anyone know?? cheers!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    iffy_2007 wrote: »
    Hi,
    I am currently doing an assignment on drink driving and am coming across a number of conflicting figures for the BAC. I was under the impression it was 35mg/100mg but a few websites have said it is 80mg/100mg. Anyone know?? cheers!!

    35 microgrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of breath

    80 milligrams of alcohol per 100millilitres of blood

    107 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of urine

    Sections 49 (4), (2) and (3) respectively


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭iffy_2007


    Thanks!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    iffy_2007 wrote: »
    Thanks!!!!

    Note: breath is microgrammes....all the rest are milligrams


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Bosco boy


    the reading in all cases be it breath/urine/blood must exceed the limit for a prosecution. If a person has the same reading as the limit then there will be no prosecution. just in case that crops up at a later stage


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Something that's also worth noting is that the reading on breath is actually 17% lower than the actual concentration in your breath to allow for any error on the machine.

    Also the penalties on conviction are graded depending on the concentration of alcohol in your body and any previous drink driving convictions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    k_mac wrote: »
    Something that's also worth noting is that the reading on breath is actually 17% lower than the actual concentration in your breath to allow for any error on the machine.

    Also the penalties on conviction are graded depending on the concentration of alcohol in your body and any previous drink driving convictions.

    It's 17.5% just to nit pick......also a little know polis fact - blood/urine have 8% taken off in line with best international practice.....it's not just breath


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    The mass per volume limit for breath seems open for abuse. There's no temperature or pressure specified. If you breath out air at body temperature into a machine at 10degC theres a 10% difference in temp leading to an error.
    Charles Law -- One of those pesky unrepealable laws of Nature

    Surely the devices could measure the mass of the air to give a more robust law?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭eagle_&_bear


    The mass per volume limit for breath seems open for abuse. There's no temperature or pressure specified. If you breath out air at body temperature into a machine at 10degC theres a 10% difference in temp leading to an error.
    Charles Law -- One of those pesky unrepealable laws of Nature

    Surely the devices could measure the mass of the air to give a more robust law?

    You're completely correct and it is why there are big problems with these machines. Tho, playing devil's advocate- that is why you are brought to the station and monitored for 20mins and then retested on the Intoxyliser which is much more accurate. mind you, we still find pot holes in that too, when they come before the District Court -just shows how imperfect our system is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 farrela


    Is the 17.5% taken off the reading before it is recorded or after. So if a reading was 50mg of breath is it then 41.5 or is it 50 which had been 50 + 17.5%??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    The latter. A displayed reading of 50 is really 59.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 farrela


    Thanks. And what about blood? A reading returned from medical bureau of 108 includes the deduction?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    yes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    There is no deduction on blood or urine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    The readings are corrected in the lab.


  • Site Banned Posts: 3 professional20


    35 micrograms of alcohol in 100 millilitres of breath.
    80 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood.
    107 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of urine.


  • Site Banned Posts: 153 ✭✭kegzmc


    So how many hours sleep do u need to drink to work after about 10 pints the previous night and a curry chip


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    35 micrograms of alcohol in 100 millilitres of breath.
    80 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood.
    107 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of urine.

    They are the old limits all changed by the 2010 act. Also different limits if learner or professional.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭Procrastastudy


    kegzmc wrote: »
    So how many hours sleep do u need to drink to work after about 10 pints the previous night and a curry chip

    The rule of thumb is 1 hour per unit - a pint is two units. Thats 20 hours from when you start drinking.

    I'm actually testing this right now... :pac:


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