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Noise at Howth Jct station

  • 03-04-2010 12:54am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭


    Anyone know what's with all this noise at howth junction station lately. It's an absolute disgrace, sounds like they're using chainsaws and bulldozers. To make it word it's from about 12 til 4 in the morning.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    It may be the signalling work - the entire DART is being re-signalled to increase capacity, starting with the Howth branch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭jam08


    Why do they have to do it at insane times keeping everyone awake.
    Any idea when these works will stop??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Its a lot more difficult to do the work when there are trains running.

    Assuming it is them, they should be gone relatively soon - its a matter of dig a trench, lay duct, fill trench and then to install and wire up the signalling poles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭Hungerford


    Unfortunately, they are doing something which is impossible to do when the trains are running - altering the signalling.

    I'd say that they will have moved on within the next few months - they have to do the rest of the line and they are merely starting at Howth Junction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Why do they have to do it at insane times keeping everyone awake.
    Any idea when these works will stop??

    I would suggest that on a functional railway those hours are the only sane one`s available to have lads wandering about the place,but maybe i`m mistaken ?

    I`d imagine the noise will abate once the work is complete ?

    Has anybody any idea as to how the French,Germans,Dutch or indeed our old enemy the Brits manage to construct and maintain their Railway systems whilst maintaining the guarantee of silence during sleepy-time for those who may be living adjacent-and best placed to make full use of those improvements ?


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭dowlingm


    Over here in Canada they have the Canadian Transportation Agency who recently told the local suburban rail people to find a different way to piledrive - in daytime. Here's what it was like before although I'm not sure GO Transit are responsible for the mad accompanying music!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    I would suggest that on a functional railway those hours are the only sane one`s available to have lads wandering about the place,but maybe i`m mistaken ?

    I`d imagine the noise will abate once the work is complete ?

    Has anybody any idea as to how the French,Germans,Dutch or indeed our old enemy the Brits manage to construct and maintain their Railway systems whilst maintaining the guarantee of silence during sleepy-time for those who may be living adjacent-and best placed to make full use of those improvements ?

    they divert the traffic where possible or shut the line on a sunday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,575 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    I would suggest that on a functional railway those hours are the only sane one`s available to have lads wandering about the place,but maybe i`m mistaken ?

    I`d imagine the noise will abate once the work is complete ?

    Has anybody any idea as to how the French,Germans,Dutch or indeed our old enemy the Brits manage to construct and maintain their Railway systems whilst maintaining the guarantee of silence during sleepy-time for those who may be living adjacent-and best placed to make full use of those improvements ?

    Thereis no guarantee on silence. I haved worked many nightshifts on the railways in Britain to do work. This work cannot be done during the day unless the line is closed and that will not be allowed to happen if the work can be done at night.

    It is just one of those things people who live next to railway lines will have to accept.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    yep, i guess the railway was there first and neighbours should have considered the implications of moving there fully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    they divert the traffic where possible or shut the line on a sunday

    An approach,if memory serves me correctly,that IE/DART used to some success with the DART/DASH programme a couple of years ago except of course we did`nt have the luxury of other lines upon which to divert..


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    corktina wrote: »
    they divert the traffic where possible or shut the line on a sunday

    The line from Landsdowne rd. to Dún Laoghaire was closed for 2 weekends to do some works in Dún Laoghaire. Couldn't the same happen here or is a case of not wanting to disturb the southsiders and piddling on the people of Klbarrack and Donamede?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭SeanW


    The Northern line carries trains up to Drogheda, where the railcar depot is. I would imagine that this line cannot be closed outside of nighttime as handily as the Southern DART, which carries trains only to the lightly used Rosslare line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    The line from Landsdowne rd. to Dún Laoghaire was closed for 2 weekends to do some works in Dún Laoghaire. Couldn't the same happen here or is a case of not wanting to disturb the southsiders and piddling on the people of Klbarrack and Donamede?
    Recently? Wasn't it just one day at a weekend, twice? Of course, in a night shift from about 0030 to 0545 you will achieve about 4 hours actual work (because you need to prepare, take things apart, put them back together and clean up). In a weekend closure from 0030 Saturday to 0545 Monday, you can achieve about 28 hours work (4 shifts - 7 times as much work, although you need the extra workers).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭merengueca


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    I would suggest that on a functional railway those hours are the only sane one`s available to have lads wandering about the place,but maybe i`m mistaken ?

    I`d imagine the noise will abate once the work is complete ?

    Has anybody any idea as to how the French,Germans,Dutch or indeed our old enemy the Brits manage to construct and maintain their Railway systems whilst maintaining the guarantee of silence during sleepy-time for those who may be living adjacent-and best placed to make full use of those improvements ?


    Yeah, we do it at night! Although attempts are made to keep noise and disruption to a minimum its big noisy work that can only be done when trains are safely tucked up for the night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    SeanW wrote: »
    The Northern line carries trains up to Drogheda, where the railcar depot is. I would imagine that this line cannot be closed outside of nighttime as handily as the Southern DART, which carries trains only to the lightly used Rosslare line.

    Unless of course IÉ forgot that the bridges on the line were built on foundations of sand and then ignored reports of the bridges being about to fall down. Can be closed for months at a time then.


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