Alcoholism and the Irish.

Xluna

How did we become a nation of alcoholics?

4zn76tysfajdxp

By drinkin'

MaybeLogic

800 years, 1 in 4, the Holy Trinity.
It's all in the numbers.

morrowa64

and more drinkin.........

stovelid

I take exception to the word alcoholic which implies that excessive drinking is not enjoyable?

philstar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e9Y023-mnc

Handsome Bob

We've gotten it into our heads that the only way to have a good time is by drinking ourselves stupid. Listen to your friends and I bet that instead of saying "I'm going to enjoy myself tonight" they actually say "I'm going to get legless/hammered/baloobas tonight".

Then the next morning they proudly update their Facebook status with pearls such as "Dude, I can't remember anything from last night, awesome night!" How was it an awesome night? You don't even remember it you tool! See, it's like a badge of honour with people.

Chad ghostal

Dedication! (and ****e weather)

petes

LZ5by5 wrote: »

We've gotten it into our heads that the only way to have a good time is by drinking ourselves stupid. Listen to your friends and I bet that instead of saying "I'm going to enjoy myself tonight" they actually say "I'm going to get legless/hammered/baloobas tonight".

Then the next morning they proudly update their Facebook status with pearls such as "Dude, I can't remember anything from last night, awesome night!" How was it an awesome night? You don't even remember it you tool! See, it's like a badge of honour with people.

Yes. Teenagers.

Handsome Bob

Insurgent wrote: »

Yes. Teenagers.

In my case, kids in their 20's.

Mr Benevolent

Load of crap tbh. We're amateurs compared to the Finnish.

4zn76tysfajdxp

Confab wrote: »

Load of crap tbh. We're amateurs compared to the Finnish.

Very true.

Bugnug

Xluna wrote: »

How did we become a nation of alcoholics?

I am not an alcoholic. There are a handful of unfortunate people who are alcoholics for one reason or another and it is no more or no less than any other country.

Buford T Justice

It stems from being perceived as 'Hard'

Like, I'm hard cos I drink so much that I can't remember what I did or with whom, so that makes me uber cool and hard and you all have to do the same to be in my gang. - that kind of shite


I like drinkin, but wouldn't call myself an alcoholic. I would have a few while the crack is good. I may end up a bit pissed, but that's not the reason I'd go out. Then again, I am 28

listermint

Xluna wrote: »

How did we become a nation of alcoholics?

Ah sure are'nt we all drunk all the time and sure we all keep an oul bottle in our bedside drawer, yum yum hops goodness...:rolleyes:

zootroid

Xluna wrote: »

How did we become a nation of alcoholics?

You would swear we're the only nation that likes a drink.

Xluna

Ah come on now lads lets get real. We have a drink culture in Ireland and have one of the highest rates of alcoholism in the world. We're internationally infamous for it.




http://www.finfacts.ie/Private/bestprice/alcoholdrinkconsumptionpriceseurope.htm

I'm not actively complaining about it. I'm just wondering how did the situation come about that drink/pubs is such a massive part of our culture? Imperialism, Catholicism, ect.

**Timbuk2**

^ According to the above link, nobody in Ireland drank in 2007.

cafecolour

Xluna wrote: »

Ah come on now lads lets get real. We have a drink culture in Ireland and have one of the highest rates of alcoholism in the world. We're internationally infamous for it.

http://www.finfacts.ie/Private/bestprice/alcoholdrinkconsumptionpriceseurope.htm

What? We're on par with the French? The French are one of the biggest drinkers in Europe? This has completely changed my opinion of the French - I always thought they didn't drink much.

Good god. This is in liters - and the French drink mostly wine while the Irish mostly drink beer - which has significantly less alcohol per liter. The French are bigger drunks than the Irish!

The real question is how have the French been massive drunks this long but giving the impression to the world that they're lightweights!

Jason McCabe

bad weather and paedo priests

Xluna

cafecolour wrote: »

What? We're on par with the French? The French are one of the biggest drinkers in Europe? This has completely changed my opinion of the French - I always thought they didn't drink much.

Good god. This is in liters - and the French drink mostly wine while the Irish mostly drink beer - which has significantly less alcohol per liter. The French are bigger drunks than the Irish!

The real question is how have the French been massive drunks this long but giving the impression to the world that they're lightweights!

I thought that was really odd at first too. But here's the difference. The French drink persistantly in moderation. The Irish drink less often but binge. So overall they even themselves out,but the Irish drink culture is more disordered.

Bloody Nipples

Confab wrote: »

Load of crap tbh. We're amateurs compared to the Finnish.

We have better self-promotion though.

msg11

**Timbuk2** wrote: »

^ According to the above link, nobody in Ireland drank in 2007.

Exactly. How can you take that seriously? If they can't even fill out an Excel form. Think someone had a few to many Rock Shandys.

As for the OP, The link is how ****e this country is. Weather, Jobs, Bordom.

bonerm

I love these league tables that show we're on a par with places like Germany and France. It just goes to shows you can prove anything you like with stats. It doesn't give the full picture imho.

We're definetly a country with a binge drinking problem. It's better to drink 2 units a day every day of your life than to smash down 14 of them on a Friday or Satuday night .... which is what we ivariably do. In that way league tables mean nothing.

As to 'why'? I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised if I found out whatever power structure was in place 200-400 years ago found it a good way to surpress the working population and to make sure they never kept their head straight long enough to focus on or amount to anything.

bleg

Since beer got so tasty!!!


mmmmmmmmmmmm

petes

LZ5by5 wrote: »

In my case, kids in their 20's.

Ah, they are a different kind altogether!

Tigger

the figures for luxemburg and finland are higher than they should be because of people comming there from other countrys due to tax differences

kravmaga

Bad weather

Addictive personalities

Irish people always turn to turn to alcohol or drugs when something bad happens in their life

Low self esteem issues

Mental health problems

Selffishness/ Glutiny

For Forks Sake

Xluna wrote: »

How did we become a nation of alcoholics?

There's a Family Guy clip for this, but I cannot find a working link to it

rubadub

Fingers McGee wrote: »

I like drinkin, but wouldn't call myself an alcoholic. I would have a few while the crack is good.

Yeah, I like a few scoops after toking on the auld crack pipe, cools the throat.

Agus

**Timbuk2** wrote: »

^ According to the above link, nobody in Ireland drank in 2007.

Erm no, I imagine the blanks beside some countries in 2006 and 2007 mean they didn't have a figure for those year (which were the most recent) yet.

ejmaztec

I think it's a myth that Irish people are the biggest pissheads on the planet, and it's all down to people believing in a stereotype that was concocted by non-Irish people.

When the "navvies" went to England a couple of hundred years ago, they worked hard and they played hard. This gave the English the idea that even the Irish in Ireland were on the piss all the time.

On the other hand, I don't know why Listowel once had 60 odd pubs to cover a population of 3 or 4 thousand people.:eek: There are only about 30 pubs now though.:(

Min

Good marketing by alcohol companies, Guinness is good for you, take a drop of whiskey if you have a cold, red wine for the heart.....

Somewhere along the line, the words 'in moderation' went missing.

We all heard the term, the drunken Irish.

Nodin

Xluna wrote: »

How did we become a nation of alcoholics?

It started in 1649, over a pint.....

ejmaztec

Nodin wrote: »

It started in 1649, over a pint.....

But years after that, there was a lot more Orange juice about than beer.

Heisenberg.

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orourkeda

TO MARTHA

Hank_Jones

Hell, I'm drunk right now...

Blahhhh

They think they're so high and mighty, just because they never got caught driving without pants...

Minstrel27

Nation of alcoholics? Don't believe the stereotypes.

biko

Xluna wrote: »

How did we become a nation of alcoholics?

I don't think we are. Can you back up your claim?
Comparative studies?

smurgen

i don't think we're a nation of alcoholics at all.we just have different drinking patterns. i easily go 2 weeks without a drink and then go out and get blinded drunk every once and a while. tbh i dont really like the taste of alcohol so i reckon anything under 7/8 drinks is a waste of time and id prefer to be drinking coke/fanta then instead. and it does boil my blood when i see 6 yanks/french people/gemans sitting around the one scabby pint of guniness trying to be all meek and sophisticated.i think it's more about stinginess on their part than anything else. tbh i love getting battered drunk and making crap decisions and i do think it's funny. don't really care if people think it's juvenile, it's my choice and i make it

Intothesea

I think our brand of alcoholism (group/social commiseration, historically at least) stems from the national character being partially flipped inside-out by huge long-term negative pressures. In MBTI personality theory this is the INXJ personality turning to immediate sensate gratification as an expression of negative ESXP personality qualities. Some info: http://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/mbti-basics/the-16-mbti-types.asp#ESFP

Garçon, une bière s'il vous plaît

Riamfada

Wow people I have identified in this thread

• The Non Drinker
• The Recreational Binge Drinker
• The Alcoholic in Denial

Fingerwag. Its not a good thing to be high on that list.

JONJO THE MISER

Just opened my first bottle of 6 bottles of red wine i got in Lidl on special offer yesterday:D, i said id drink no Beamish or Guinness today as its the lords day and he drank wine, hell the priests are drinking wine today so overall im a good Catholic:).

Hank_Jones

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Just opened my first bottle of 6 bottles of red wine i got in Lidl on special offer yesterday:D, i said id drink no Beamish or Guinness today as its the lords day and he drank wine, hell the priests are drinking wine today so overall im a good Catholic:).

It's backwards logic.
But then again...is there any other kind?

I like it.

One_Armed_Dwarf

I drink to feel big

Lone Stone

A small island with a few generations of sexual abuse and the iron fist of the church who wouldnt want to drown there sorrows tbh..

(i dont drink)

Riamfada

Lone Stone wrote: »

A small island with a few generations of sexual abuse and the iron fist of the church who wouldnt want to drown there sorrows tbh..

Everyone in Ireland who drinks to excess was sexually abused? I also heard that the Church's sexual abuse scandal was directly responsible for the January cold snap and housing market crash.

The ****ers.

Hank_Jones

Grimes wrote: »

I also heard that the Church's sexual abuse scandal was directly responsible for the January cold snap and housing market crash.

Source?

dsmythy

The more northerly you get in the Northern Hemisphere the more people drink on average it seems. Being an island exasperates this.

bonerm

dsmythy wrote: »

The more northerly you get in the Northern Hemisphere the more people drink on average it seems. Being an island exasperates this.

Do Canadians have a reputation for alcoholism?