EI SNN TO ACE

sonyair

http://www.lanzarotemagazine.co.uk/2010/01/more-aer-lingus-and-jet2-flights-in-2010/

Will Aer Lingus fly Shannon to Lanzarote and possibly even more routes

irishleedsfan

i really hope so

dasium

it the simple answer to this is NO... currently the cabin crew in shannon have agreed an amendment to the overall Greenfield plan Aer Lingus has been pushing through.. currently there are 125 approx crew from Oct that will go down to 24/26 crew... enough to fly the Heathrow route 3 times daily nothing more, with crewing/ aircraft usage it would suggest opening further routes from SNN couldn't be futher from the minds of AER Lingus management...

As a former staff member its sorry to see the demise of the companies presence in the airport....

dasium

I stand corrected, seemingly there is the possibility of another 320 aircraft being based in SNN and a long haul 330 aircraft doing a run during downtime from SNN also.... but routes are still in discussion stage

ShannonIE2010

I hope EI actually do base an extra a320 in Shannon, it would be a big boost for the airport.

Ryanair did SNN-ACE, weekly for the winter and it has good loads and yields on it, so hopefully EI pick up on this.

Do you know if EI will base an EI Regional ATR in SNN? There's 3 more on the way.

Dacian

dasium wrote: »

it the simple answer to this is NO... currently the cabin crew in shannon have agreed an amendment to the overall Greenfield plan Aer Lingus has been pushing through.. currently there are 125 approx crew from Oct that will go down to 24/26 crew.......

Thats quite a drop in staff numbers.......do you know are they being let go or being transfered to Cork or Dublin? I read that the Greenfield plan has 200 redundancies, does this include Shannon?

dasium

from a high prior to 9-11 of over 400 it is a massive decline... 50/60 were on temp contracts and let go, there has been 4 redundancy packages ( I availed of one) and in the region of 40 have transferred over the years.. plus natural waste age... retirements etc has seen the worker no.'s decline to 125... come Oct the option will be to transfer to Cork/Dublin, take unpaid leave or a much reduced redundancy package... because of the age profile of the workers, kids in school, married, mortgages...etc.. moving isn't an option for most....

Those numbers only apply to Cabin Crew... overall the numbers of Ground personal i.e.: loaders, check in staff, cargo, maintenance etc have fallen from a combined total of 1200+ to approx 150 or less, not sure of exact no.'s these days...

dasium

ShannonIE2010 wrote: »

I hope EI actually do base an extra a320 in Shannon, it would be a big boost for the airport.

Ryanair did SNN-ACE, weekly for the winter and it has good loads and yields on it, so hopefully EI pick up on this.

Do you know if EI will base an EI Regional ATR in SNN? There's 3 more on the way.

I honestly don't know... so far the arrangement has worked from existing Aer A. bases... so unlikely to base an A/C in SNN, that doesn't mean they wouldn't fly in on middle two legs of doubles without the A/C terminating in SNN, with the industrial relation issues in SNN Aer Lingus prob wouldn't stroke the fire by flying in AER Arann crews in I'd imagine....

ShannonIE2010

Ya they could terminate in SNN.
Do you know when EI will release there Winter 2010/2011 flight schedule?

dasium

ShannonIE2010 wrote: »

Ya they could terminate in SNN.
Do you know when EI will release there Winter 2010/2011 flight schedule?

My point is they couldn't terminate in SNN! From a crewing point of view it wouldn't make logical sense... cost factors of over nighting 2 crews... engineering costs, airport charges etc.. AER ARANN don't do that..
Aer Lingus won't officially release what their doing for a number of weeks, normally the staff figure it out in advance with booking options, aircraft maintainence movement etc, london 3 times daily is only certainty.. as it stands more than likely New York possibly 3/4 weekly with an aircraft originating in Dublin (crewed by Dublin staff).... thats it... no boston or chicago....

Obviously that is open to change

Garco

How long have aer lingus had the one they have?? only seen it the other day in snn

BuffyBot

They're not Aer Lingus' - they belong to Aer Arann, who are operating some flights for Aer Lingus, in Aer Lingus livery, since 28th of March.

Lifelike

dasium wrote: »

My point is they couldn't terminate in SNN! From a crewing point of view it wouldn't make logical sense... cost factors of over nighting 2 crews... engineering costs, airport charges etc.. AER ARANN don't do that..
Aer Lingus won't officially release what their doing for a number of weeks, normally the staff figure it out in advance with booking options, aircraft maintainence movement etc, london 3 times daily is only certainty.. as it stands more than likely New York possibly 3/4 weekly with an aircraft originating in Dublin (crewed by Dublin staff).... thats it... no boston or chicago....

Obviously that is open to change

Aer Lingus do still operate to Boston from SNN. About 3 times a week and don't seem to have any plans to terminate it.

dasium

Lifelike wrote: »

Aer Lingus do still operate to Boston from SNN. About 3 times a week and don't seem to have any plans to terminate it.

it was for the winter I was refering too... but as I said I could be wrong. But EI have got rid of quite a number of longhaul aircraft so there has to cuts some where... shannon would generally be the victim of any cuts...

Lifelike

dasium wrote: »

it was for the winter I was refering too... but as I said I could be wrong. But EI have got rid of quite a number of longhaul aircraft so there has to cuts some where... shannon would generally be the victim of any cuts...

Last year though Aer Lingus were threatening to pull the SNN-JFK route altogether, but I don't think I heard them mention Boston at all. Or did they?

dasium

Lifelike wrote: »

Last year though Aer Lingus were threatening to pull the SNN-JFK route altogether, but I don't think I heard them mention Boston at all. Or did they?

they pulled the direct JFK, but a flight was route via Dublin from Jan to March...so a service was available 3/4 days a week... I finished working in the airport around Sept but at that stage the intention was to pull the boston flight... not sure if it occured though...
For the winter on 24/26 cabin crew are to remain in SNN, all the others have to move to DUB/ORK or take unpaid leave... its from that that I was concluding that there would be a question over long haul services... you'd need a minimum of 70 to crew londons and one longhaul service...:(

Snow Leopard

dasium wrote: »

they pulled the direct JFK, but a flight was route via Dublin from Jan to March...so a service was available 3/4 days a week... I finished working in the airport around Sept but at that stage the intention was to pull the boston flight... not sure if it occured though...
For the winter on 24/26 cabin crew are to remain in SNN, all the others have to move to DUB/ORK or take unpaid leave... its from that that I was concluding that there would be a question over long haul services... you'd need a minimum of 70 to crew londons and one longhaul service...:(

The 133 is crewed from DUB. That flight can still operate even if SNN numbers are reduced. The 109 can be routed via SNN 3/4 days a week as it was from Jan - Mar. EI can still maintain a reasonable SNN transatlantic schedule without SNN based crew if they want to.

Dacian

There was mention on a.net that EI are adding an extra flight per week from SNN-BOS for the summer.

Lifelike

dasium wrote: »

they pulled the direct JFK, but a flight was route via Dublin from Jan to March...so a service was available 3/4 days a week... I finished working in the airport around Sept but at that stage the intention was to pull the boston flight... not sure if it occured though...
For the winter on 24/26 cabin crew are to remain in SNN, all the others have to move to DUB/ORK or take unpaid leave... its from that that I was concluding that there would be a question over long haul services... you'd need a minimum of 70 to crew londons and one longhaul service...:(

Aer Lingus never pulled the direct JFK service... they pulled Chicago and reduced frequency on the JFK route. Boston route has been left untouched for now.

ShannonIE2010

Any update on the extra A320 being based in SNN??