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Promotion in national hurling league

  • 31-03-2010 12:38pm
    #1
    wicklowwonder
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    What way is the promotion relegate working is this years national hurling league? Is it two down two up?


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  • #2
    fikay
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    Bottom team in Div 1 are relegated while the 1st and 2nd placed teams in Div 2 play each other for promotion.
    That was my understanding of it and wiki seems to agree:
    Division One

    Division One contains eight teams. Each team plays all the others once. The top two play the final; the winners of the final are the 2010 NHL champions. The last-placed team is relegated.
    Division Two

    Division Two contains eight teams. Each team plays all the others once. The top two play the final; the winners of the final are the 2010 Division Two champions and are promoted. The last-placed team is relegated to Division Three A

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Hurling_League_2010


  • #3
    Orizio
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    Should be two up, two down, load of bollocks really.


  • #4
    BigCon
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    Orizio wrote: »
    Should be two up, two down, load of bollocks really.

    Agree 100%.
    The GAA are always harping on about promoting hurling in the smaller counties, but then they deny them the opportunities to play the top tier teams so that they might improve.
    With teams like Clare and Wexford in div 2 it makes it hard for the second tier teams like Laois and to a lesser extent Carlow to get promotion...


  • #5
    wicklowwonder
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    I was asking as it looks like Laois could finish 2nd this year in divison 2! a year in divison 1 could do a team like laois the world of good but looks like it wont happen. How do the GAA expect the sport to grow?


  • #6
    adrian522
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    I think division 1 should be for the best teams and it works well at the moment, if it was two to go down and 2 up, youd probably have Dublin and Limerick relagated and maybe have wexford and laois coming up which would mean Clare, Limerick, Dublin, etc still in division 2 and still not much chance of Carlow, westmeath getting promoted, if teams are good enough to win their division they get promoted and it also makes teams take the league a little more seriously as the bottom team doesn't have the luxary of a playoff with the lower division team like a few years ago.

    I'd just like the GAA to leave the leagues alone for a few years and also not introduce 'experimental' rules every year that are always thrown out before the championship starts


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  • #7
    hurler_87
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    Due to the fact that's there's only eight teams in the top two leagues, one down and up works well, as it makes the second division more competitive in terms of promotion 4 teams have a realistic chance of reaching the final (or potential promotion),

    and division one more interesting in terms of relegation.

    As if it was 2 up and down; limerick would be all but relegated... it looks like it'll come down to the last game between limerick and dublin, which will be an interesting encounter in Dublin!


  • #8
    Daysha
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    BigCon wrote: »
    Agree 100%.
    The GAA are always harping on about promoting hurling in the smaller counties, but then they deny them the opportunities to play the top tier teams so that they might improve.
    With teams like Clare and Wexford in div 2 it makes it hard for the second tier teams like Laois and to a lesser extent Carlow to get promotion...

    Aren't they already playing top tier teams though? I know they're not meeting the Kilkennys or Tipps or anything, but there's still strong teams in D2. Last year we had Offaly and Wexford, this year there's Wexford and Clare, and it's almost certain Limerick will be there next year too. That never happened under the older system when D1 was split into 2 smaller groups, and now the middle-tier counties like Antrim, Laois and Carlow are all the better for it.

    I think the balance is just about right imo. Look at how successful this league has been for Carlow for example. Beating Wexford, coming to within a point of Clare, that will stand to them far more than if their months consisted of 15-20 point beatings of the big boys. And when they get to D1 in time they'll be in a much better position to compete.


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