MASS HATRED of SU

glut22

Just wondering...and apologies for my ignorance, why is there such hatred against the students union....surely we should be 'united' behind them, (excuse the pun) it seems bizarre

enda1

Why is there mass hatred of the government? We should be united behind them.

Everyone always loves to reign shit on those in power. It's the human condition.

glut22

enda1 wrote: »

Why is there mass hatred of the government? We should be united behind them.

Everyone always loves to reign shit on those in power. It's the human condition.

fair point I suppose...although I wouldnt say there is MASS hatred of the government, like its not everyone as seen here. perhaps no pro SU students frequent boards

A Neurotic

Rabble rabble, hacks, rabble rabble.

andrew

I'm not a huge fan because while they claim that they contribute to student life and exist out of necessity, I can't really see how this is the case. Though I admit I could be wrong. That and their anti-fees stance (and claim that they fought fees and won) is retarded.

Denerick

Utopian delusions as presented by the OP sicken my very essence. 'why not get behind them'? Why would I? What the hell have they got to do with me? I was never asked whether I wanted an SU, the 'vehicle of progress' insured we'd have this damnable institution whether we like them or not.

All political bodies attract the very worst kind of people and the SU are no different. Except in TCD, or universities in general, they attract people who are 'random', 'good craic', or in laymens terms, 'absolute morons'. Its all part and parcel of our degenerate society to laud these virtues, which in reality are nothing more than the pontifications of the witless.

They are defended by their footsoldiers, the kind of sheltered, mindless drones who crave to be the slave of a system, any system. The kind of people who shovel up the puke at the iron stomach contest. The kind of people whom its IMPOSSIBLE to have any modicum of respect for. They wear the tee shirts and hand out the fliers - and think they're participating in something fun and noble. They think they make a difference. They go home to their wealthy Dublin suburbs and irritate the **** out of their family with their pathetic, monotone induced tales of self improvement. Their delusions may be entertaining for the Swiftian minded among us, but I dread to think how their family cope with their crass idiocy.

Its my contention that the TCDSU is much more odious than any other student's institution, because of the proliferation of a peculiarly 'Trinity' type of person - the blinkered fashionista who dreams of intellectualism. For those reasons, I refuse to 'get behind my Student's Union'.

ronivek

Hatred implies a certain amount of invested emotion. I am indifferent to the Student's Union. Possibly if I made use of some of their services I might have a view either way but when you're voting on whether or not they stock Coca Cola in their shops more than you're voting on real issues; it's difficult to take them too seriously.

Mark200

I don't think many people hate the SU. The vast majority would just be apathetic towards them, and couldn't really care less about what they are doing.

t0mm

Denerick wrote: »

I think the student's union sucks because I don't like the student's union.

Fix'd.

I for one support the Students Union, to an extent. They are the reason the Library is open at weekends and why the furthest I have to go for a mars bar is front arch. Their interest free no questions asked €100 loan has helped me out on more than one occasion. They do provide a necessary safe guard against the college administration fúcking over the student population.


HOWEVER, the useful things they do don't really take up much time. So they spend their day thinking up pointless stuff to do so they look uber busy and their CV's look a little better. And that's why people don't like them.

p1akuw47h5r3it

Mark200 wrote: »

I don't think many people hate the SU. The vast majority would just be apathetic towards them, and couldn't really care less about what they are doing.

Basically sums up how I feel.

gaybitch

No one really "hates" the SU. Either they think it's pointless and the whole rigmarole and self-congratulation annoys them, or else they couldn't care less about it. Personally, I'm the latter.

Did some minion really have to clean up the vom after the Iron Man thing? Jesus, that's brilliant

uglyjohn

they pissed me off because they were so bloody arrogant and thought they were so important.
student politics is irrelevant, if I remember correctly my last year in TCD the big su election promise was to put in drinking fountains.

Boston

Insert comment about getting behind steph. How very crude.

p1akuw47h5r3it

Denerick wrote: »

Utopian delusions as presented by the OP sicken my very essence. 'why not get behind them'? Why would I? What the hell have they got to do with me? I was never asked whether I wanted an SU, the 'vehicle of progress' insured we'd have this damnable institution whether we like them or not.

All political bodies attract the very worst kind of people and the SU are no different. Except in TCD, or universities in general, they attract people who are 'random', 'good craic', or in laymens terms, 'absolute morons'. Its all part and parcel of our degenerate society to laud these virtues, which in reality are nothing more than the pontifications of the witless.

They are defended by their footsoldiers, the kind of sheltered, mindless drones who crave to be the slave of a system, any system. The kind of people who shovel up the puke at the iron stomach contest. The kind of people whom its IMPOSSIBLE to have any modicum of respect for. They wear the tee shirts and hand out the fliers - and think they're participating in something fun and noble. They think they make a difference. They go home to their wealthy Dublin suburbs and irritate the **** out of their family with their pathetic, monotone induced tales of self improvement. Their delusions may be entertaining for the Swiftian minded among us, but I dread to think how their family cope with their crass idiocy.

Its my contention that the TCDSU is much more odious than any other student's institution, because of the proliferation of a peculiarly 'Trinity' type of person - the blinkered fashionista who dreams of intellectualism. For those reasons, I refuse to 'get behind my Student's Union'.

While I have no idea what ur on about I love your writing skills hahaha....U have to be an English student right???

cantankerous

DanDan6592 wrote: »

While I have no idea what ur on about I love your writing skills hahaha....U have to be an English student right???

I hope to god you are trying to wind him up.

p1akuw47h5r3it

cantankerous wrote: »

I hope to god you are trying to wind him up.

:D

Steve Higginson

gaybitch wrote: »

Did some minion really have to clean up the vom after the Iron Man thing? Jesus, that's brilliant

No, a member of College's Grounds staff hooks up a hose and blasts the vomit into the drains in Front Square after the Iron Stomach. It's one of the cooler things that College does to facilitate society activities.

Denerick

Steve Higginson wrote: »

No, a member of College's Grounds staff hooks up a hose and blasts the vomit into the drains in Front Square after the Iron Stomach. It's one of the cooler things that College does to facilitate society activities.

Excellent. Let some working class stiff do the dirty work. Here at Trini-Tay, we make sure the underclass are kept in employment. No wonder most people think Trinity students are twats.

Denerick

DanDan6592 wrote: »

While I have no idea what ur on about I love your writing skills hahaha....U have to be an English student right???

No.

Steve Higginson

Denerick wrote: »

Excellent. Let some working class stiff do the dirty work. Here at Trini-Tay, we make sure the underclass are kept in employment. No wonder most people think Trinity students are twats.

Yeah, ****ing arsehole Trinity students. Did you know that the Housekeeping staff clean House 6 too? How dare those hacks make those poor working class women clean up after them.

Denerick

Steve Higginson wrote: »

Yeah, ****ing arsehole Trinity students. Did you know that the Housekeeping staff clean House 6 too? How dare those hacks make those poor working class women clean up after them.

If some attention craving idiot wants to eat to the point of sick (The Victorian freakshow has never died, BTW) the least they can do is clean up after themselves. Have you ever actually done manual work before? Nobody gives a **** about the stuff they do. Next time you're throwing your empty hazlenut latte on the pavement, think of the binman.

Boston

Denerick wrote: »

If some attention craving idiot wants to eat to the point of sick (The Victorian freakshow has never died, BTW) the least they can do is clean up after themselves. Have you ever actually done manual work before? Nobody gives a **** about the stuff they do. Next time you're throwing your empty hazlenut latte on the pavement, think of the binman.

Thats they're Job. I assume theres a fee charged for the clean up.

Steve Higginson

Denerick wrote: »

If some attention craving idiot wants to eat to the point of sick (The Victorian freakshow has never died, BTW) the least they can do is clean up after themselves. Have you ever actually done manual work before? Nobody gives a **** about the stuff they do. Next time you're throwing your empty hazlenut latte on the pavement, think of the binman.

How do you propose the contestants in Iron Stomach clean up after themselves? Is there a better way than using a hose to do it? Do you really think College would let students hook up a hose in Front Square and trust them to use it themselves?

DeVore

Are they still doing the "Iron Man" competition??

Have a guess who first came up with that idea...







DeV.

Steve Higginson

DeVore wrote: »

Are they still doing the "Iron Man" competition??

Have a guess who first came up with that idea...







DeV.

When was that, the earliest Iron Stomach that I know took place was in 1989. The Scifi society would be interested in finding out how old it actually is.

Boston

DeVore would have come to trinity in 1988.

Craguls

DanDan6592 wrote: »

While I have no idea what ur on about I love your writing skills hahaha....U have to be an English student right???

What would Deneher think DanDan?

ojwhite

Denerick wrote: »

Utopian delusions as presented by the OP sicken my very essence. 'why not get behind them'? Why would I? What the hell have they got to do with me? I was never asked whether I wanted an SU, the 'vehicle of progress' insured we'd have this damnable institution whether we like them or not.

All political bodies attract the very worst kind of people and the SU are no different. Except in TCD, or universities in general, they attract people who are 'random', 'good craic', or in laymens terms, 'absolute morons'. Its all part and parcel of our degenerate society to laud these virtues, which in reality are nothing more than the pontifications of the witless.

They are defended by their footsoldiers, the kind of sheltered, mindless drones who crave to be the slave of a system, any system. The kind of people who shovel up the puke at the iron stomach contest. The kind of people whom its IMPOSSIBLE to have any modicum of respect for. They wear the tee shirts and hand out the fliers - and think they're participating in something fun and noble. They think they make a difference. They go home to their wealthy Dublin suburbs and irritate the **** out of their family with their pathetic, monotone induced tales of self improvement. Their delusions may be entertaining for the Swiftian minded among us, but I dread to think how their family cope with their crass idiocy.

Its my contention that the TCDSU is much more odious than any other student's institution, because of the proliferation of a peculiarly 'Trinity' type of person - the blinkered fashionista who dreams of intellectualism. For those reasons, I refuse to 'get behind my Student's Union'.

Hero.

cantankerous wrote: »

I hope to god you are trying to wind him up.

Hahah.

t0mm

Denerick wrote: »

Excellent. Let some working class stiff do the dirty work. Here at Trini-Tay, we make sure the underclass are kept in employment. No wonder most people think Trinity students are twats.

If grounds had a problem with it, they wouldn't let them do it.

Denerick

Denerick wrote: »

Utopian delusions as presented by the OP sicken my very essence. 'why not get behind them'? Why would I? What the hell have they got to do with me? I was never asked whether I wanted an SU, the 'vehicle of progress' insured we'd have this damnable institution whether we like them or not.

All political bodies attract the very worst kind of people and the SU are no different. Except in TCD, or universities in general, they attract people who are 'random', 'good craic', or in laymens terms, 'absolute morons'. Its all part and parcel of our degenerate society to laud these virtues, which in reality are nothing more than the pontifications of the witless.

They are defended by their footsoldiers, the kind of sheltered, mindless drones who crave to be the slave of a system, any system. The kind of people who shovel up the puke at the iron stomach contest. The kind of people whom its IMPOSSIBLE to have any modicum of respect for. They wear the tee shirts and hand out the fliers - and think they're participating in something fun and noble. They think they make a difference. They go home to their wealthy Dublin suburbs and irritate the **** out of their family with their pathetic, monotone induced tales of self improvement. Their delusions may be entertaining for the Swiftian minded among us, but I dread to think how their family cope with their crass idiocy.

Its my contention that the TCDSU is much more odious than any other student's institution, because of the proliferation of a peculiarly 'Trinity' type of person - the blinkered fashionista who dreams of intellectualism. For those reasons, I refuse to 'get behind my Student's Union'.

I do like your style, but I fear the real world (post 'Trini-Tay') is going to hit you like a ton of bricks

Denerick

Deleted User wrote: »

I do like your style, but I fear the real world (post 'Trini-Tay') is going to hit you like a ton of bricks

Unlike my sheltered Trinitay colleagues, I've spent the entirety of my time in college doing part time work (Ranging from 15-20 hours) I'm under no illusions about what the real world has in store.

DeVore

1989 was the first Iron Stomach. Ronan McGloughlan was Auditor and I was Ents I think. We were approached by the rag week event organisers with a couple of "suggestions" like a Panto-Pony race etc.... they were all pretty lame so we asked could we do our own thing Scifi style and Ronan and I came up with the Iron Stomach competition. It came from the awful food in the buttery at the time... dunno if its improved. in fact we served a plate of bolognaise towards the end.

Are the rooms still at the top of house 6? Did you ever find a node-map on the wall with lots of intersecting lines joining names to each other? Is there still a big square wooden table up there??.... if so, here's a tip.... dont eat of it.

DeV.

Steve Higginson

DeVore wrote: »

1989 was the first Iron Stomach. Ronan McGloughlan was Auditor and I was Ents I think. We were approached by the rag week event organisers with a couple of "suggestions" like a Panto-Pony race etc.... they were all pretty lame so we asked could we do our own thing Scifi style and Ronan and I came up with the Iron Stomach competition. It came from the awful food in the buttery at the time... dunno if its improved. in fact we served a plate of bolognaise towards the end.

Are the rooms still at the top of house 6? Did you ever find a node-map on the wall with lots of intersecting lines joining names to each other? Is there still a big square wooden table up there??.... if so, here's a tip.... dont eat of it.

DeV.

Still at the top of House 6. Don't know of any map, but most of the walls are now bookshelves. There was a big square wooden table, but I believe it was thrown away this year.

Jammyc

Denerick wrote: »

Unlike my sheltered Trinitay colleagues, I've spent the entirety of my time in college doing part time work (Ranging from 15-20 hours) I'm under no illusions about what the real world has in store.

Come down off your high horse will you?

Denerick

Jammyc wrote: »

Come down off your high horse will you?

Boston

Steve Higginson wrote: »

Still at the top of House 6. Don't know of any map, but most of the walls are now bookshelves. There was a big square wooden table, but I believe it was thrown away this year.

****ing hell, I would have taken it.

Steve Higginson

Boston wrote: »

****ing hell, I would have taken it.

It had developed a large hole in the middle of it.

Boston

Glory hole in the SciFi room?

p1akuw47h5r3it

Craguls wrote: »

What would Deneher think DanDan?

He'd think that I'm a much smarter and intelligent student;):D:D

I was a top notch English student I'll have you know Craguls!!:p

red herring

DanDan6592 wrote: »

While I have no idea what ur on about I love your writing skills hahaha....U have to be an English student right???

I reckon he is a philosophy student.

DeVore

Steve Higginson wrote: »

Still at the top of House 6. Don't know of any map, but most of the walls are now bookshelves. There was a big square wooden table, but I believe it was thrown away this year.

[off topic] The map was on the wall nearest front square, the one with the windows (it was bang in the middle)...

DeV