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This weeks Smackdown ***WM/Raw/SD/NXT Spoilers***

  • 31-03-2010 8:17am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭


    Full results cleaned up

    Smackdown starts with Chris Jericho coming down to the ring....mixed reaction when he cuts a great promo about keeping the World Title at WrestleMania 26. Jericho is awesome on the microphone, getting great heat from the crowd. Edge comes out to a huge pop. Edge says that he thinks he should get a rematch right now. Jericho is not taking the bait. Edge starts beating up Jericho and ripping off his clothes to reveal taped ribs. Edge then spears Jericho. Jack Swagger then comes out to cash in MITB. Swagger hit Edge with the briefcase.

    1) Jack Swagger defeats Chris Jericho to win the World Heavyweight Title in short order with his gutwrench power bomb. He walks out of the ring with the world title. The crowd is stunned.

    - Commercial time and Jericho is being helped from the ring. He's in shock. He starts throwing a tantrum up the ramp. The crowd is buzzing.

    2) John Morrison and R Truth defeats Cryme Tyme when Morrison pins JTG with Starship Pain in about 1 minute when Shad turned on JTG. He beat up JTG pretty good. JTG gets helped to the back.

    - Swagger in the back halls with World T bragging to anyone who'll listen. He has a short conversation with Shelton Benjamin pretty funny stuff. Swagger is showing some personality.

    - They show an interview with Shad about it being his time, not very good.

    3) Drew McIntyre defeats Matt Hardy in a non-title match. Hardy is way over. Really quick match with Drew ramming Hardy into post and DDTing him laying him out.

    - Kane comes out and cuts a promo. He says he's bored and wants to take on the entire NXT roster. Several members of the NXT roster come out and attack Kane.

    4) Dolph Ziggler defeats Khali with a sleeper hold.

    - CM Punk comes out and cuts a promo saying he wants a re-match against Rey Mysterio. He said if he wins, Rey must join the SES and will put his hair on the line as well. On his way up the ramp, Teddy Long stops him, and makes a match tonight against him and Undertaker.

    5) Beth Phoenix & Tiffany defeats Michelle McCool & Layla

    - Jack Swagger cuts a promo on the 'state of the champ'. Jericho comes out and demands a rematch as does Edge. Teddy Long announces Jericho vs Edge and the winner will face Swagger at Extreme Rules.

    6) Undertaker defeats CM Punk via Tombstone. Punk was distracted by Rey who came out and accepted his challenge.

    - After the match Undertaker gets on the mic and says 'never mistake respect for weakness'.

    7) Edge vs Chris Jericho was a no contest when Swagger got involved in the match. Teddy Long announces the title match at Extreme Rules will be a Triple Threat.

    Wrong move IMO, it should have Swagger -v- Cena. Edge and Jericho were fine on their own, Swagger will be just like a spare tyre. I can't believe they had him cash in so early, and that he actually won. I thought he'd be the first to cash in and lose.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,725 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I think it's great, especially if Swagger retains at Extreme Rules. It'll be a great push for him and really elevate him into the main event. They kinda had to have him cash it in fairly early due to the upcoming MITB PPV.

    Plus, even if he took Cena's title, Raw's main event scene is pretty full with Cena, Batista, Orton and Triple H (unless Triple H is taking time off). Swagger could really go far on Smackdown, and with the draft coming up he probably would have been traded to Smackdown anyway. I see either Edge or Jericho being drafted to Raw

    Also, Shad turns on JTG? Damn, that's one less tag team and two more guys who will probably get lost in the midcard after a few months. Ziggler beating Khali is awesome though, and we still get the possibility of Rey being forced to join SES


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,016 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    OMG :eek:

    I dont think putting Swagger into the Jericho/Edge feud is a good move imo


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    I think it's a good move, they have a MITB PPV coming up in the summer which means they have to cash it in quickly (maybe not this quickly), also, does the Edge Jericho feud need a title? Have Jericho cost Edge the rematch and keep things going


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    why don't you just write SMACKDOWN Spoilers?

    WHY do you have to say ****MAJOR SPOILERS****?! Now i know if there's a bloody title match or whatever, I'll know the result. You've already forced upon me something big has happened on SmackDown - i.e. a title change most likely.

    SO INCONSIDERATE! (This is the third time I've come across HUGE SMACKDOWN SPOILERS in the last few minutes :mad::mad:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Major could mean a number of things, it's quite a jump to think major=title change. It could have been a debut, it could have been a major injury, it could have been a new GM, it could have been anything.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    I'm happy Swagger has the title and it at least follows on from what happened on RAW, that Swagger would try cash it in as soon as he could.

    I just hope he gets to hold it for a few months and is at least booked somewhat strong.

    The Punk/Rey feud is starting to annoy me. If they were going to have Rey be forced to join the SES, then it should have been done at Mania. Instead they went six minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    The internet has spoiled a lot of big moments on me over the past few years and it really bugs me (the impact is really reduced). Now i know there's another big moment so when
    something big
    happens I know what's coming :( I'm a jaded wrestling fan of ~20 years so i have precious little to enjoy in wrestling these days!!!

    Any thanks for changing the title thread! I do appreciate it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,016 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Will Swagger stay on RAW with the title or move to SD?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 685 ✭✭✭Cactus Colm


    I think it's a great move. Just to see someone cashing in the briefcase so quickly. Don't think anyone's cashed it in so quickly ... generally it seems that whomever has it takes several months.

    Although my favourite angle for the briefcase was Mr Kennedy's plan to wait the year and cash it in at the next wrestlemania. Would love to see wwe try that one again. A year to build a match.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,725 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I think it's a great move. Just to see someone cashing in the briefcase so quickly. Don't think anyone's cashed it in so quickly ... generally it seems that whomever has it takes several months.

    Although my favourite angle for the briefcase was Mr Kennedy's plan to wait the year and cash it in at the next wrestlemania. Would love to see wwe try that one again. A year to build a match.

    Not with a new MITB PPV. There'll end up being more briefcases than titles :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    not sure if it was the right move they needed to push swagger a bit more before he cashed it in imo plus putting him in the edge/jericho feud will take away from a great feud developing between those two


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭glenjamin


    Shocking that they've had Swagger cash in here. Why throw a spanner in the works of the potential feud of the year? I remember reading ages ago he was set to be traded to Smackdown in the draft.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    Great to see the swagger thing, not least because it gets the guy away from the snakepit of Raw and gives a bit of variety to the size profile in Smackdown. IMO it's well deserved after taking his lumps for the past half year.

    I can see where people are coming from with the reservation about sticking him in between what could be a good, long-running feud. But when you look at it another way, it's a great way to keep it going. Jericho-Edge would start to get stale if it was always the one guy picking up victories, while the title itself would be devalued even further if they kept trading it from month to month. Having Swagger take the belt out of the equation allows a good feud to keep going under its own steam, and lets them build up another one with the belt as bait.

    I'd fully expect to see the loser of Edge-Jericho cost the winner his title match. Swagger goes off into the sunset with a successful defence, Jericho and Edge have even more reason to hate each other.

    As for punk-mysterio, I'm glad they'll probs get another PPV. They were seriously short-changed in the time they got at WM after a great build.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭paddyismaddy


    jericho and edge feud is going along nicely and then they add the eegit swagger to the mix :mad: talk about a stupid move


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    :eek::eek::eek: Did not expect to see that at all

    Here's the clip of him winning (Don't watch this if you want to see it on SD):



    Here's the NXT spoilers:
    We start off with a video package featuring the rookies during the history of NXT while looking at the four factors that the mentors will be using.
    We are live from Las Vegas, Nevada and your announcers are Josh ‘Will the 8th place rookie have to go to detention’ Mathews and Michael ‘I get to teach Home Ec in the next grading period’ Cole. Your host for the evening is Matt ‘Teacher’s Pet’ Striker.

    We go to Matt in the ring and he welcomes everyone to the ‘most important night in the history of NXT’. He mentions that over the last six weeks, the rookies have done everything to impress their mentors and the WWE Universe.

    The rookies come to the ring. Striker welcomes them to the first milestone on their journey to become WWE stars. Striker talks about the four criteria. Win-Loss Records; Quality of Opponent; Work Ethic; and It Factor.

    The official standings are Darren Young in 8th; Michael Tarver in 7th; Skip Sheffield in 6th; David Otunga in 5th; Heath Slater in 4th; Justin Gabriel in 3rd; Wade Barrett in 2nd; and Daniel Bryan in 1st.

    Striker asks Young about being in 8th. Young says that everyone knows about his situation with CM Punk, so he needs to step it up and show everyone what he is about.

    Now it is time to hear from Daniel Bryan. Daniel says that his win loss record isn’t the best and Michael Cole says that he doesn’t have the ‘it factor’, but there are a lot of people who look like Superstars but are married to celebrities.

    Otunga gets in Bryan’s face after that comment. Otunga says that he might have the least experience, but he has the ‘it factor’. He says that he has the most charisma and compares talking to Bryan like eating mashed potatoes. Bryan comments on Otunga’s clothes.

    We have six weeks until the next grading period ends. At that time, we will have our first elimination. Each week after that one rookie will be eliminated until they are down to four. The winner of NXT will get a pay per view title match against any champion.

    Striker says that all of the rookies will be in a Battle Royal tonight. The winner of the Battle Royal will get the opportunity to host Monday Night Raw.

    Michael Cole is outraged at Daniel Bryan’s comments and points out that Bryan has not won while Josh points out that record isn’t the only factor.

    We go to commercial.

    Match Number One: CM Punk Luke Gallows and Serena, Matt Hardy, R Truth, and Chris Jericho with Wade Barrettversus Carlito, William Regal, Christian, and the Miz

    Jericho comes to the ring in a suit and he joins Cole and Mathews at the announce table.

    Wade Barrett takes Jericho’s spot in the match for the Smackdown wrestlers. Carlito and Truth start things off. Truth punches Carlito and the apple is dislodged. Truth with a hip toss and arm drag. Truth works on the arm and he tags in Punk and he snap mares Carlito and hits a leg drop. Punk continues to work on the arm but Carlito with punches and kicks in the corner. Regal tags in and he has something to say to Punk. Regal gets on his knees and Punk laughs at him. Punk tags Barrett into the match and Regal tags Christian in. Christian with punches to Barrett and a side head lock. Barrett with a kick and punch to Christian. Barrett with a shoulder tackle and then he sends Christian into the corner. Christian with a back elbow and a sunset flip from the turnbuckles for a near fall. Hardy tags in and Miz wants to get into the match so he tags himself in. Miz with a kick and punch. Hardy sends Miz into the turnbuckles and hits a clothesline. Hardy punches Miz in the corner. Hardy and Miz go to the floor and all eight wrestlers are at ringside as we go to commercial.

    We are back and Carlito with a cover on Matt Hardy. Carlito with a sleeper on Hardy but Hardy gets to his feet and Carlito backs him into the corner. Miz tags in and he punches Hardy but Hardy punches back because Miz took too long. Miz with a sleeper but Hardy with a jawbreaker. Truth tags in and hits a flying clothesline and faltline. Truth with a leg lariat and then he knocks Regal down on the apron. Miz with a couple of neckbreakers and gets a near fall but Punk breaks it up. Regal tags in and he connects with forearms. Regal with a hard Irish whip and kicks Truth in the back and gets a near fall. Carlito tags in and he kicks Truth in the back. Carlito with a rear chin lock but Truth gets on his feet and he punches Carlito. Carlito with a drop kick to Truth. Christian tags in and he hits a snap mare and then he works on Truth’s neck. Christian with a clothesline and he gets a near fall. Regal tags in and he connects with knees to the head followed by a gutwrench suplex. Regal with a cravate into a front face lock. Miz tags in and he kicks Truth in the midsection followed by a snap suplex for a near fall. Miz with a punch to Truth as he mocks the Smackdown wrestlers. Miz with a knee to the back as he applies a front face lock on Truth. Miz with a knee followed by an Irish whip and he hits the running clothesline into the ropes. Miz goes up top but Truth hits a drop kick and both men are down. Punk and Christian tag in and Christian with a running forearm followed by a corkscrew back elbow from the turnbuckles. Christian gets ready for the Killswitch but Punk with a back kick and tries for the Go To Sleep but Christian escapes. Punk with the running knee into the corner but Christian escapes the bulldog. Christian with a pendulum kick followed by a missile drop kick. Barrett breaks up the cover but Carlito throws him to the floor. Hardy with a Twist of Fate to Carlito followed by a gutwrench suplex by Regal to Hardy. Truth with a pump kick to Regal and then he sidesteps Miz who gets thrown over the top rope to the floor. Truth with a pescado. Barrett tags in and Christian hits an inverted DDT on Barrett. The referee deals with Punk and Christian punches Jericho who is at ringside. Barrett with a slam from a fireman’s carry on Christian for the three count.
    Winners: Wade Barrett, CM Punk, Matt Hardy, and R Truth

    We see Chris Jericho, Wade Barrett, CM Punk, Serena, and Luke Gallows in the ring as we go to commercial.

    We are back and it is time to talk about Wrestlemania and the end of Shawn Michaels’ career. Time to take a look back at part of Shawn Michaels’ farewell from last night’s Raw.

    We take a look back at the Rookie Poll.

    We go to commercial.

    Match Number Two: NXT Rookie Battle Royal featuring Heath Slater, Darren Young, Michael Otunga, Daniel Bryan, Michael Tarver, Skip Sheffield, Justin Gabriel, and Wade Barrett

    Everyone looks like they are gunning for Barrett and they all go after him as the bell rings and Barrett is eliminated first. Young goes after Bryan while Sheffield punches Gabriel and we go to commercial.

    We are back and we are now down to five since Darren Young just got eliminated. Skip Sheffield was eliminated after getting in some offense. Gabriel tries to eliminate Otunga. Michael Tarver is eliminated by Bryan and then Slater eliminates Bryan and himself with a cross body. We are down to Otunga and Gabriel and they lock up. Gabriel with a punch but Otunga punches back. Otunga with a shoulder in the corner. Gabriel with kicks to the leg and a forearm. Gabriel misses a round kick but hits an enzuigiri. Gabriel goes up top and hits a 450 splash and then he celebrates and then stands in the center of the ring instead of eliminating Otunga. Gabriel picks up Otunga and then he tries to send him over the top rope but Otunga with a rake of the eyes and then he throws Gabriel out.
    Winner: David Otunga

    After the match, R Truth comes to the ring to celebrate with the Raw guest host.

    Matt Striker comes into the ring to interview the Raw guest host. Matt asks David what is going through his head. He says that he told everyone and he should have been ranked number one. He talks about how he beat everyone. Otunga says that he is Mr. NXT and the guest host of Raw. Matt asks David if he can announce anything for Monday. David says that the A List will be all over Raw and then he talks about how he wants 427 green M&Ms in his dressing room.

    We go to credits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Christ when did Russo start booking for Smackdown?:pac:

    The Swagger one is interesting, I understand why some people are annoyed but it makes sense. After Mania we get tons of rematches on the upcoming PPVS, we will get Punk v Rey, Cena v Dave and Hunter v Sheamus for a few months. They needed to shake that formula up so therefore they added Swagger to the Smackdown title mix.

    Swagger has been buried on Raw, but I loved his ECW title run, and its awesome they are pushing him again.

    And folks lets be grateful its not Drew:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭glenjamin


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    After Mania we get tons of rematches on the upcoming PPVS, we will get Punk v Rey, Cena v Dave and Hunter v Sheamus for a few months. They needed to shake that formula up so therefore they added Swagger to the Smackdown title mix.

    I think we'd all agree that we'd rather see Jericho/Edge for a few more months than Cena/Batista.

    Swagger was jobbing to Santino not long back and now he's WHC :confused: I will admit I'd much rather see him on Smackdown than Raw though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭glenjamin


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    And folks lets be grateful its not Drew:pac:

    It could have and should have been Christian. Imagine a Christian/Jericho/Edge feud :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Now that would be a feud!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    WWE NXT makes no sense, I was expecting them to have Daniel Bryan at the very bottom due to his 0-5 record. Even if the poll took into account strength of opponent does that really knock him up to the very top?

    EDIT But Jericho's abuse of Michael Cole was hilarious. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    glenjamin wrote: »
    I think we'd all agree that we'd rather see Jericho/Edge for a few more months than Cena/Batista.

    Swagger was jobbing to Santino not long back and now he's WHC :confused: I will admit I'd much rather see him on Smackdown than Raw though.

    They probably feel their is more money in rematches with cena and Dave than Edge and Jericho, sadly they probably have a point.:(

    The thing with cashing in MITB, its meant to be sudden and impactful really, so what if he is not on a roll? He cashed in on a champion who was selling his Mania injuries like death. Now if Jericho was 100% and Swagger beat him clean then yeah I would be fuming. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭paddyismaddy


    edge/jericho feud was perfectly fine without swagger being added - i am happy for their feud to continue all the way to summerslam if needed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭Degag


    jericho and edge feud is going along nicely and then they add the eegit swagger to the mix :mad: talk about a stupid move

    To be fair, you only think he's an eejit because that's how the WWE have portrayed him as of late. He is a very talented wrestler, and given the right push - hopefully this one - he could become a superstar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    Degag wrote: »
    To be fair, you only think he's an eejit because that's how the WWE have portrayed him as of late. He is a very talented wrestler, and given the right push - hopefully this one - he could become a superstar.

    This is my biggest problem, he's been treated as a joke for the last year and even looked bad on Raw but then suddenly they decide to throw a title on him. I really like Swagger, and have always thought he's good enough but unless he's pushed really strong from here the fans just won't care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,608 ✭✭✭irish_stevo815


    This is awesome. I 've only just got back into WWE with the lead up to Wrestlemania and wasn't too sure when Swagger won the MITB match but I think that him winning the WHC is cool. Now it probably won't last long, probably lose it at Extreme Rules to Edge but I can see it lead onto a sort of USA vs. Canada. After all Swagger is the "All American American" and both Edge and Y2J are Canadian.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    This is great for Jack.

    Sheamus got a sudden push and it worked, hopefully its the same for Swagger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,827 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    This is my biggest problem, he's been treated as a joke for the last year and even looked bad on Raw but then suddenly they decide to throw a title on him. I really like Swagger, and have always thought he's good enough but unless he's pushed really strong from here the fans just won't care.

    I remember he came out around Survivor Series time and said he was gonna stay undefeated until the end of the year. They should have stayed with that plan, then he would have some momentum behind him right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    why don't you just write SMACKDOWN Spoilers?

    WHY do you have to say ****MAJOR SPOILERS****?! Now i know if there's a bloody title match or whatever, I'll know the result. You've already forced upon me something big has happened on SmackDown - i.e. a title change most likely.

    SO INCONSIDERATE! (This is the third time I've come across HUGE SMACKDOWN SPOILERS in the last few minutes :mad::mad:)

    Yet you still came into a thread, spoiling it for yourself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Too soon imo.

    I like the guy and was fine with him winning MITB but I think this was a mistake. Not to mention the fact they buried him on Raw effectively. He had to abort his attempt at taking the belt from Cena then later got hit with an RKO and pinned by Orton and now he's the World Champ? Don't like it. I would have preferred him to be Mr MITB for a while. They've effectively made an upper mid-card heel on Raw into Smackdown's new top guy.

    It reminds me of the time Kennedy won MITB and people were going crazy about him and talking about him being the next World Champion. I always felt that was a disaster waiting to happen. It never came about and looking at TNA of late I think WWE dodged a big bullet there. This time I think they may have put a bullet in their foot. Will be interesting to see what happens.

    Swagger is definitely World Champ material but not yet. It's Orton 2004 all over again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,045 ✭✭✭Vince135792003


    It's Orton 2004 all over again.

    Orton was even much more over then than Swagger is now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    I think it'll be a short title reign and back to the midcard with Jack within weeks.

    He won't get much of a response from teh audience because they haven't bult him at all. But the writers will read it as him not being able to "get himself over" or something equally stupid and will panic and pull the plug on the push.

    I've seen this sh*t so many times its unreal. Why do they repeat the same mistakes over and over?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    flahavaj wrote: »
    I think it'll be a short title reign and back to the midcard with Jack within weeks.

    He won't get much of a response from teh audience because they haven't bult him at all. But the writers will read it as him not being able to "get himself over" or something equally stupid and will panic and pull the plug on the push.

    I've seen this sh*t so many times its unreal. Why do they repeat the same mistakes over and over?

    Because idiots rule the world Flahavaj.

    (In all seriousness, I think this could be very smart booking if done right)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Sure the title means nothing anyway. After Swagger's reign he'll be a solidified mid-carder, and in two years or so when he's bursting out of mid-card he'll be accepted into the main event. Punk was b1tch slapped so many times by WWE booking but he's on top of the wrestling world now. However rocky WWE's booking, talent always rises to the top. And Swagger's a talented guy.

    Swagger's had fantastic matches on ECW as champion vs Finlay, Dreamer (twice) and Christian. He even had a stormer on RAW where he embarrassed Cena.....would've happened around Feb-March 09. That he's been booked as a joke, jobbing to Santino doesn't help his credibility. But you know WWE, they can turn that around in a month with good booking :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Christ when did Russo start booking for Smackdown?:pac:

    Ever since "The Beautiful Styles" McCool and Layla debuted together :pac:
    krudler wrote: »
    Yet you still came into a thread, spoiling it for yourself?

    It was already spoiled three times (on other boards; whom also got given out to). Spoiling wrestling on others is really mean and inconsiderate. All I could do is moan and ask for the thread name change so others who don't want their SD spoiled don't end up like me! (Boo hoo LOL)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    if its a good / bad idea can not be determined atm for me. What if we still get Jericho vs Edge for the next few months but Swagger at the next PPV just ensures that its not about the title. What if the WWE have plans to draft a number of big name SD superstars to Raw like Jericho for example then Swagger would be a good guy to fill the void and get a main event push on SD. There are a lot of variables in this one atm but considering the potential Swagger has I obviously think this move has a lot of potential once they proceed with it in the right manner.

    btw i changed the thread title by the time i was online and saw it though the topic was already a few pages old and considering how new the thread was id guess most people would have assumed something major happened on SD, though lets not get hung up on the title it did include *Spoiler* afterall.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    DM-ICE wrote: »
    This is great for Jack.

    Sheamus got a sudden push and it worked, hopefully its the same for Swagger.

    It did? :confused: :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,016 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I know this has been asked many times before but will Matt Hardy ever get a push for the top - he is incredibly over


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I know this has been asked many times before but will Matt Hardy ever get a push for the top - he is incredibly over

    Vince might concede in a few years. The Benoit/Guerrero WM imagine has been wiped from the books, and WWE need another to replace it. Cue Jeff and Matt winning/retaining the world titles and hugging at the end of WrestleMania (30 maybe?)

    There is hope, but really Vince will need to see his main event locker-room clear out some more before he looks at Matt again :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,725 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I know this has been asked many times before but will Matt Hardy ever get a push for the top - he is incredibly over

    He's over but I've never had the impression from him that he could beat any of the top guys one on one. His fued with Mark Henry was pretty good, but if he ended up in a match with the likes of Orton or Cena, I could never imagine Hardy beating them. He's a solid worker and I agree that he is very over, but they dropped the ball by turning him face again when Jeff was leaving and he injured his wrist. His mean streak then could have gotten him towards the main event and become a more credible opponent for the top guys, and they could have easily made him a face again once he got there. But now he's in the midcard again and I fear he'll just stay there

    ....or go to TNA...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    btw i changed the thread title by the time i was online and saw it though the topic was already a few pages old and considering how new the thread was id guess most people would have assumed something major happened on SD, though lets not get hung up on the title it did include *Spoiler* afterall.

    Any chance of adding the NXT part to it like we usually have it??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    It did? :confused: :pac:

    Yep it did. He is over and did not look out of his depth at Mania with Hunter.

    I am not a massive fan but credit to creative, they made him creditable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    It's probably a bit too early but I havn't a major problem with it. I quite enjoyed the Christian/Swagger ECW title program. Two good PPV matches between them was the result. Swagger is capable of pulling it off. Also in Jericho and Edge he has two guys with the same talents as Christian, both in making other guys look good and their mic skills.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    It did? :confused: :pac:

    Of course it worked. He ended up in a singles match against HHH at Wrestlemania. He was even getting a good reaction from the crowd.

    Remember the lack of reaction he got before and at the start of his sudden push. He is now a guy that is a genuine threat to the Cena's and Ortons.

    If they left him on ECW he would be featured on the DVD as part of the pre show battle royal rather than the main card.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Just noticed

    It looks like NXT is not on tonight. It seems to be on Saturday night/Sunday morning at Midnight

    Smackdown is on Sky Sports 2 friday at 10pm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    DM-ICE wrote: »
    Of course it worked. He ended up in a singles match against HHH at Wrestlemania. He was even getting a good reaction from the crowd.

    Remember the lack of reaction he got before and at the start of his sudden push. He is now a guy that is a genuine threat to the Cena's and Ortons.

    If they left him on ECW he would be featured on the DVD as part of the pre show battle royal rather than the main card.

    Fair enough, I didn't think the crowd were into him at all before Mania, and I didn't really notice any major reaction from the crowd towards him at Mania. But having said that my stream was pretty crappy. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    I strongly believe that people upload videos of their thought to Youtube are complete morons, this reinforces my theory.

    This guy is awesome and totally retarded at the same time. :o:p


  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    The guy above is a right weirdo, but there are good some good wrestling vloggers on Youtube. Namely SpinnerNet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭glenjamin


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    I strongly believe that people upload videos of their thought to Youtube are complete morons, this reinforces my theory.

    This guy is awesome and totally retarded at the same time. :o:p
    Is he Jack Swagger's fat English retarded twin?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    The Champ addresses the crowd.



    Not bad, he got a decent amount of heat off of the crowd, it's a good start. But where's the frikken robe!? th_mad.gif


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    After seing that moving him to SD really is the right move for me. MITB is the new KOTR you win it as you are about to become established as a main eventer. Then if you are lucky you will get drafted to SD where you will get the chance to showcase your ability and most likely get a title reign where you can establish yourself as a main eventer (see CM Punk), then eventually when one of the big names retires (HBK) or Raw just needs freshening up and you have reached the level where you wont revert back to a mid carder you head to the flagship show and face people like John Cena and HHH where you get to the opportunity to prove yourself once more, this time capable of drawing big PPV buys and eventually headlining Wrestlemania and carrying the company. Throw in NXT or ECW in Swaggers case and youve got the ideal progression of any WWE star


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Infact the more and more I think about it the more this makes sense, Jericho who has been going on about Edge's injuries selling his own like a good thing whilst the ultimate opportunist Edge can at best only watch on at ringside as he is buypassed by Swagger cashing in to win the belt.


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