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Pubs on Thursday before Good Friday?

  • 29-03-2010 12:53pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭


    Closed at midnight?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,465 ✭✭✭Irish Halo


    yeah


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    Last orders would be 11 30 anyway so its not exactly an inconvenience


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    I remember the viper rooms on the quays being opened before, for a price of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,416 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    fontanalis wrote: »
    I remember the viper rooms on the quays being opened before, for a price of course.

    Awful place that...surprised the fire inspector has never closed them down...massive crowds and one exit from downstairs via a narrow stairway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭poisonated


    What about nightclubs? Most people aren't even there before 12.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    Tramco is opening anyway. I'd say its a busy night for cinemas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    Joke of a country.

    Is Tramco opening fully, like serving drink? I know Charlie Chawke is opening some of his pubs for food and soft drinks only.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭df1985


    everywhere shuts at midnight until midnight on good friday when some places open.

    the local club in leixlip is opening at 8 on thursday till 12. are people that desperate!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    df1985 wrote: »
    everywhere shuts at midnight until midnight on good friday when some places open.

    the local club in leixlip is opening at 8 on thursday till 12. are people that desperate!

    I don't think it's a matter of being "Desperate".... I enjoy going out... as do many other people...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭df1985


    i love going out too as much if not more than the average person, but going to a nightclub at 8 o clock because itll close at 12??? thats a bit sad to me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭spartan1


    I go out more than most, possibly party a little harder than most, but to have to go to a club at 8pm cos its closing 2 hrs early is where I would draw the line,

    Why just because we cant drink on friday is everybody goin nuts ? Am I the only person to think that there is a serious drink problem ? God forbid not drinking on a friday night, we might have to sit around and talk sober. shesh

    Theres Sat night, and Sun night and the 200 odd days left in the year !

    Joke of a country is right, we're all sad bastards who cant do anything else socially only drink ! and ya, im one if them, but Im gonna change ....after this weekend !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    Im off work on Friday, and I want to go out on Thursday.. why can I not?? Cos some draconian law brought about by the worlds largest paedophile ring says I cant??

    THAT is a joke. And what I do with other 200 days of the year is my own business.

    Anyway obviously going to some nightclub in Leixlip is not going to happen, I'm just asking about pubs here, I'm pretty sure nowhere really opens at midnight on Friday so I was wondering if we at least got to choose what we do on Thursday night but it appears we dont get that night either.

    Tramco might be a shout, have to investigate...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 925 ✭✭✭billybigunz


    spartan1 wrote: »
    I go out more than most, possibly party a little harder than most, but to have to go to a club at 8pm cos its closing 2 hrs early is where I would draw the line,

    Why just because we cant drink on friday is everybody goin nuts ? Am I the only person to think that there is a serious drink problem ? God forbid not drinking on a friday night, we might have to sit around and talk sober. shesh

    Theres Sat night, and Sun night and the 200 odd days left in the year !

    Joke of a country is right, we're all sad bastards who cant do anything else socially only drink ! and ya, im one if them, but Im gonna change ....after this weekend !

    What if we banned pizzas on one day of the year. And then maybe ban tv for another. Would you feel the same?

    It is up to a person to decide what they want to do with their night.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    df1985 wrote: »
    i love going out too as much if not more than the average person, but going to a nightclub at 8 o clock because itll close at 12??? thats a bit sad to me.

    The sad and crazy part is that it has to remain shut for those 24 hours, not that people want to be able to spend money there during those 24 hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭spartan1


    robinph wrote: »
    The sad and crazy part is that it has to remain shut for those 24 hours, not that people want to be able to spend money there during those 24 hours.

    guys guys guys, whatever
    al im saying is that all this is a big hullabaloo cos your not allowed buy alcohol.

    is there no other way to spend your night ? ill be able to find something else to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 925 ✭✭✭billybigunz


    spartan1 wrote: »
    guys guys guys, whatever
    al im saying is that all this is a big hullabaloo cos your not allowed buy alcohol.

    is there no other way to spend your night ? ill be able to find something else to do.

    That argument has no weight. People should have the freedom to choose what they do and not be judged.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭scubakid


    Half eleven out by twleve


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    spartan1 wrote: »
    guys guys guys, whatever
    al im saying is that all this is a big hullabaloo cos your not allowed buy alcohol.

    is there no other way to spend your night ? ill be able to find something else to do.

    Everything is improved with the inclusion of alcohol. Never forget that.

    I'll be hitting the off licence. Maybe kicking it too. Definitely screaming 'Open you cretins. God wants me to drink.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    I think nightclubs open at midnight on Good Friday. So went the story last year. Not sure how accurate that is tho - few buddies said it was the case anyway. Makes sense considering how many people have house parties before heading in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    That argument has no weight. People should have the freedom to choose what they do and not be judged.

    Do you think you would be judged walking around the town with an alcohol can in your hand on Good Friday? Who's judging anything?


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    spartan1 wrote: »
    is there no other way to spend your night ? ill be able to find something else to do.

    What is open for business on the evening of the 2nd?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭omega666


    What if we banned pizzas on one day of the year. And then maybe ban tv for another. Would you feel the same?

    It is up to a person to decide what they want to do with their night.


    no pizza and tv for a night!!. what would everyone do!! :rolleyes:

    theres noting stopping you doing what you want for the night. for example if your a raving alcholic that cant live without the pub for a night then get some takeaway beers in at home!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 925 ✭✭✭billybigunz


    omega666 wrote: »
    no pizza and tv for a night!!. what would everyone do!! :rolleyes:

    theres noting stopping you doing what you want for the night. for example if your a raving alcholic that cant live without the pub for a night then get some takeaway beers in at home!
    What if you have been working for a month wiht hardly any holidays on a project and you finish on good Friday? Why should that person be denied a night out?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    I can't believe this causes so much confusion every year...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    What if you have been working for a month wiht hardly any holidays on a project and you finish on good Friday? Why should that person be denied a night out?

    They could always go out one day later instead. Have a couple of drinks at home on the night instead. Hardly the end of the world!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    I can't believe this causes so much confusion every year...

    The only confusion is to why on earth the ban on alcohol sales on that random day still exists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 925 ✭✭✭billybigunz


    dsmythy wrote: »
    They could always go out one day later instead. Have a couple of drinks at home on the night instead. Hardly the end of the world!

    It is a very serious issue. It goes to the very heart of a persons freedom, civil liberties and beliefs. You are saying why can't a person go without one day of drink and I am saying why should they. None of you have an answer to that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    robinph wrote: »
    The only confusion is to why on earth the ban on alcohol sales on that random day still exists.

    They could always try and turn it into a non-alcohol day to help combat binge drinking culture. Could have a few events on on the day where people can enjoy activities they might not usually engage in without the need for alcohol at a lower cost than normal. You know an evening on the streets of Dublin or wherever you may be without piss, vomit and regular violent scenes. There's more to us than this surely! One day to show it a year.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    It is a very serious issue. It goes to the very heart of a persons freedom, civil liberties and beliefs. You are saying why can't a person go without one day of drink and I am saying why should they. None of you have an answer to that.

    because the government don't care about you or what you want. I like to smoke weed sometimes but it's illegal. What can you do? Vote someone else in? They'll do the same sh*t.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    It is a very serious issue. It goes to the very heart of a persons freedom, civil liberties and beliefs. You are saying why can't a person go without one day of drink and I am saying why should they. None of you have an answer to that.

    People's beliefs are overlapping and conflicting. Some don't like the scenes you find in town centres across the country and feel their own freedom is restricted as a result. They can walk the streets in security on a Tuesday night but not a Saturday night. What about their freedoms on those nights? Of course if you deny people the right to engage in activities that affect the freedoms of others somebody's going to be upset as somebody loses that civil liberty they beleive they have.

    Why can't I urinate on a busy street in broad daylight. My freedom! Why can't I lay here on the bench high from my heroin with my baby by my side without ending up in jail? My liberty! Why can't i hate gay people? My beliefs! Why can't I buy alcohol on Good Friday? You can't. Deal with it is my sole advice I'm afraid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 925 ✭✭✭billybigunz


    dsmythy wrote: »
    People's beliefs are overlapping and conflicting. Some don't like the scenes you find in town centres across the country and feel their own freedom is restricted as a result. They can walk the streets in security on a Tuesday night but not a Saturday night. What about their freedoms on those nights? Of course if you deny people the right to engage in activities that affect the freedoms of others somebody's going to be upset as somebody loses that civil liberty they beleive they have.

    Why can't I urinate on a busy street in broad daylight. My freedom! Why can't I lay here on the bench high from my heroin with my baby by my side without ending up in jail? My liberty! Why can't i hate gay people? My beliefs! Why can't I buy alcohol on Good Friday? You can't. Deal with it is my sole advice I'm afraid.

    I give your post 1/10.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    dsmythy wrote: »
    Why can't I urinate on a busy street in broad daylight. My freedom! Why can't I lay here on the bench high from my heroin with my baby by my side without ending up in jail? My liberty! Why can't i hate gay people? My beliefs! Why can't I buy alcohol on Good Friday? You can't. Deal with it is my sole advice I'm afraid.

    But you can't do any of the other stuff ever. (Well you can hate gay people all you want, it just makes you a nasty person.) But you CAN buy alcohol every other day of the year except certain religious days, which have no meaning for many. It really is rather simple and if you think it's comparable to any of the other things you mentioned then really there's little point in anyone trying to convince you to change your mind.

    If Catholics want to observe the tradition they can do it, no one would deny them abstaining, so why should their beliefs be forced on the rest of the populace? All anyone ever says when arguing the other side is that 'you can go without drink for one day' but to say that is to miss the point entirely and more than likely intentionally.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    dsmythy wrote: »
    They could always try and turn it into a non-alcohol day to help combat binge drinking culture. Could have a few events on on the day where people can enjoy activities they might not usually engage in without the need for alcohol at a lower cost than normal. You know an evening on the streets of Dublin or wherever you may be without piss, vomit and regular violent scenes. There's more to us than this surely! One day to show it a year.

    No problem with that, it would at least mean that there is something to do. Seeing as we are always asked "Why can't you go without drink for one day a year?" then why not give the option of something else to do.
    robinph wrote: »
    What is open for business on the evening of the 2nd?

    I'm guessing that the answer to this is that nothing is open then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    I give your post 1/10.

    I demand to know where you docked me 9 points. It's my... er.... right!

    Basically if you want to drink alcohol on Friday you can buy your drink in advance and drink it. Pubs won't sell you it on the day because it is against the law. Your 'right' to drink alcohol is unaffected if you pre-plan. Licensed premises will most likely be closed so you can't drink it there. Sorry. Enjoy your alcohol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 925 ✭✭✭billybigunz


    dsmythy wrote: »
    I demand to know where you docked me 9 points. It's my... er.... right!

    Basically if you want to drink alcohol on Friday you can buy your drink in advance and drink it. Pubs won't sell you it on the day because it is against the law. Your 'right' to drink alcohol is unaffected if you pre-plan. Licensed premises will most likely be closed so you can't drink it there. Sorry. Enjoy your alcohol.

    Your don't like it lump it attitude is laughable. Did you hear what happened when a load of Limerick publicans made a fuss?
    Ever hear of lobbying for change?

    I'm fairly certain that this archaic law won't exist in a few years and we can expect much more liberal licencing laws thanks to public pressure and lobbyists.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Your don't like it lump it attitude is laughable. Did you hear what happened when a load of Limerick publicans made a fuss?
    Ever hear of lobbying for change?

    I'm fairly certain that this archaic law won't exist in a few years and we can expect much more liberal licencing laws thanks to public pressure and lobbyists.

    I'm only having this discussion at all because I don't get why people can't simply do something else with their day other than drink. I can understand publicans not liking it because they lose out on profit. I don't understand people being dead set against it without their lives being non-affected by it in the long term. If next year all the pubs were open I wouldn't care and could well end up in a pub on the day. I won't be in a pub on Friday and I really don't care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    dsmythy wrote: »
    I'm only having this discussion at all because I don't get why people can't simply do something else with their day other than drink.
    If religion was saying people could not do anything on a given day, I'd be against whatever the point of discussion was. Religion has no place dictating how we (as a country) go about our days. It can tell people in the sense of its flock what to do.

    This point is intertwined with the meat discussion. At least meat is still for sale. And people like to throw out that "its just one day". Do you have a similar sentiment of why can't people eat something different for just one day? The same point I will make on both counts, why should we?

    I invariably get something like "its the nice thing to do" or its the right thing to do. I ask why, and generally get the nonsense that apologists likely are about to spout off at their monitors. Before replying, be aware, a religious argument isn't going to be compelling to a non religious person.

    Just curious as a general question to all the "its just one day" people. Is there anything that would be one step too far that "its just one day" doesn't justify for you? Or is it a one answer fits all type thing?
    If next year all the pubs were open I wouldn't care and could well end up in a pub on the day.
    Good for you. It is just one day, but you could very well find yourself in a position where you'll be with friends and going to a pub, just like many of us, I'm sure. See, the just one day point is inane, and you have just countered it yourself. Thank you.
    I won't be in a pub on Friday and I really don't care.
    I don't know if I will myself. I'm from Limerick, but I hate rugby. I'll probably head out for a bit, but I'm sure places will be far too packed.

    As for your not caring, well, you have contributed a lot to the thread. It seems you care to some degree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    dsmythy wrote: »
    I'm only having this discussion at all because I don't get why people can't simply do something else with their day other than drink. I can understand publicans not liking it because they lose out on profit. I don't understand people being dead set against it without their lives being non-affected by it in the long term. If next year all the pubs were open I wouldn't care and could well end up in a pub on the day. I won't be in a pub on Friday and I really don't care.

    It's not about not having anything else to do. It's the principle of a law being forced on people based on the religious beliefs of others. Of course people could do other things and of course there are 363 days when the pubs are open, but that isn't the issue here at all. Some are just not happy to have the beliefs of others forced on them. Honestly, I don't even go to the pub that much because it's too expensive, but I'm still opposed to this law. At least try to understand where others are coming from, I can see your point, it is just one day, but it stands for something which many don't agree with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 claire.k


    I dont if its been asked. Was planning on going out sunday or monday, is it business as usual for pubs and clubs on those days?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    fontanalis wrote: »
    I remember the viper rooms on the quays being opened before, for a price of course.

    Dignity?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Pushtrak wrote: »
    If religion was saying people could not do anything on a given day, I'd be against whatever the point of discussion was. Religion has no place dictating how we (as a country) go about our days. It can tell people in the sense of its flock what to do.

    This point is intertwined with the meat discussion. At least meat is still for sale. And people like to throw out that "its just one day". Do you have a similar sentiment of why can't people eat something different for just one day? The same point I will make on both counts, why should we?

    I invariably get something like "its the nice thing to do" or its the right thing to do. I ask why, and generally get the nonsense that apologists likely are about to spout off at their monitors. Before replying, be aware, a religious argument isn't going to be compelling to a non religious person.

    Just curious as a general question to all the "its just one day" people. Is there anything that would be one step too far that "its just one day" doesn't justify for you? Or is it a one answer fits all type thing?

    As for your not caring, well, you have contributed a lot to the thread. It seems you care to some degree.

    Perhaps you'd prefer the idea I offered earlier in the thread on the day where non-alcoholic events are organised at discounted prices on the day in a no alcohol day, alcohol still being illegal to sell. It still harks back to the Good Friday religious reasons but the main purpose isn't it's religious aspect much like Easter and Christmas are about eggs and Santa but the days themselves link back to an original religious meaning.

    I take your point about meat. As Good Friday is stripped away the non-damaging aspects will fall first. With alcohol and it's harmful effects however i see a reason to earmark it as something that can still remain illegal to sell on the day with non-religious reasons behind it primarily even if the banning traces it's roots to religion.

    With our disasterous attitude to drink in this country I think the "just one day" we ban it's sale and reflect on how it leaves us on the day is an interesting thing to do. I'm not a religious person so i'm not going to threaten you with the wrath of god here.

    Me saying I don't care? I guess i was saying that in comparison with the couple of people here feeling so strongly against the day. Compared to them my feelings on the religious aspects of the day is less caring. I guess i could of been clearer there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 925 ✭✭✭billybigunz


    Why not have that day on some specific Wednesday to disassociate any religous meaning.

    It's still a violation of peoples civil liberties IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Why not have that day on some specific Wednesday to disassociate any religous meaning.

    It's still a violation of peoples civil liberties IMO.

    I can understand where you're coming from. I'd like to keep it on the day it's traditionally been. We're not about to exchange 'Christmas' presents in June and have the kids expecting 'Easter' eggs in November to avoid religion after all. I'm not one for total civil liberties myself so that's always going to be something we won't agree on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 925 ✭✭✭billybigunz


    dsmythy wrote: »
    I can understand where you're coming from. I'd like to keep it on the day it's traditionally been. We're not about to exchange 'Christmas' presents in June and have the kids expecting 'Easter' eggs in November to avoid religion after all. I'm not one for total civil liberties myself so that's always going to be something we won't agree on.

    Exchanging gifts and Easter eggs gave nothing to do with religion. Christmas isn't a religous holiday for me, more a midwinter celebration.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    So all places thast sell alcohol are closing at midnight on thursday? Even fibbers?? Cos that kinda ruins my plans :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    dsmythy wrote: »
    Perhaps you'd prefer the idea I offered earlier in the thread on the day where non-alcoholic events are organised at discounted prices on the day in a no alcohol day, alcohol still being illegal to sell.
    See, the alcohol being illegal to sell on a given day because its the Catholic thing to do. Screw other religions, they'll just have to make do. I can't really endorse such a position. It is illogical.
    I take your point about meat. As Good Friday is stripped away the non-damaging aspects will fall first. With alcohol and it's harmful effects however i see a reason to earmark it as something that can still remain illegal to sell on the day with non-religious reasons behind it primarily even if the banning traces it's roots to religion.
    But, I think alcohol should be on the same step as meat. As in, both should be available to buy. I can still walk into a shop get a breakfast roll, or have a steak that day, even though religion says I shouldn't. Why should religion have the power to allow pubs close? It should have an understanding that Catholicism requests an abstinence from meat and alcohol.
    With our disasterous attitude to drink in this country I think the "just one day" we ban it's sale and reflect on how it leaves us on the day is an interesting thing to do. I'm not a religious person so i'm not going to threaten you with the wrath of god here.
    Consider how many people go out weekend in, weekend out, wake up wrecked off their face. If that bit of insight into alcohol isn't doing them any good, I don't think the absence* of it for one day is going to change anything, in fairness.

    * An absence I would question on the large scale. Especially for the type who would have a daily trek to the off licence who would be the type most in need of an actual day off drink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    Just as a random aside, do any Catholics disagree with the idea of abstention being forced on them, rather than it being a conscious choice? It is supposed to be a sacrifice, rather than a punishment, so religiously the law against opening the pubs is massively flawed. Surely it makes more sense that the pubs be open, but that good Catholics don't go to them as they normally would, thus entailing personal sacrifice rather than enforced sacrifice, which hardly holds the same meaning and is hardly a sacrifice at all.

    Just a thought, would be interested to hear what people think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Pushtrak wrote: »
    See, the alcohol being illegal to sell on a given day because its the Catholic thing to do. Screw other religions, they'll just have to make do. I can't really endorse such a position. It is illogical.

    Fair enough on the rest of the post. As for this, the no alcohol day i propose is basically a secular replacement for the original religious Good Friday. I doubt non-Catholic Christians will be too upset by it and religious Muslims might actually approve of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    nm wrote: »
    Im off work on Friday, and I want to go out on Thursday.. why can I not?? Cos some draconian law brought about by the worlds largest paedophile ring says I cant??

    THAT is a joke. And what I do with other 200 days of the year is my own business.

    Anyway obviously going to some nightclub in Leixlip is not going to happen, I'm just asking about pubs here, I'm pretty sure nowhere really opens at midnight on Friday so I was wondering if we at least got to choose what we do on Thursday night but it appears we dont get that night either.

    Tramco might be a shout, have to investigate...

    Never mind catholics, but all christains are paedophiles now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Hotel booked, they serve drink in the hotels right?


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