Thinking of buying a Skoda Octavia

dlambirl

Hi all,

I was looking at a Skoda Octavia's (1.9 TDi) at the weekend, a 2006 and 2007.

Whats the difference between The Classic, Ambiente and Elegence?

Anyone know of anything to watch out for when buying??

mike65

Trim levels - Classic cheapest.

Its got a big boot, thats all you need to know.

EPM

Buy an Elegance spec one - at that age it had air con that the others missed out on, plus some other bits and pieces.

Otherwise...ya they're grand...

Lex Luthor

mike65 wrote: »

Its got a big boot, thats all you need to know.

you suggesting that's all they have to offer?

dlambirl

Does the Elegance have alloys as standard?
The 2007 was I was looking at hadn't got alloys, just hubcaps
I only had a very quick look and drive in it as it was late.

What are the main things the Elegance has that the others dont? Is it worth holding out for a Elegance? The one I was looking at was 2007, 60000kms on the clock, 12 months warrantym fully serviced and valeted, €11000

When would the timing belt want to be changed?

EPM

Classic is basic enough.

Ambiente adds arm rest, front fogs, better trim, rear elec windows and a better stereo.

Elecgance - climate control, 15 inch alloys, leather wheel. Popular enough on them were multi function wheel and cruise as options.

There is probably a few other little things but they are the main bits. Newer spec models have a higher spec again.

dlambirl

Not well this one was definately not an elegance model, hadnt alloys, multi function wheel or leather wheel.

Would €11,000 sound about right for what i've mentioned?

dlambirl

Back again. :rolleyes:

Has the Ambience Model an AUX point as standard in the armrest does anyone know??? I was in one over the weekend and it had one but I was wondering are they standard in all Ambience models?

Getting a good one at the right money is hard!! Still looking!!

Zonda999

dlambirl wrote: »

Back again. :rolleyes:

Has the Ambience Model an AUX point as standard in the armrest does anyone know??? I was in one over the weekend and it had one but I was wondering are they standard in all Ambience models?

Getting a good one at the right money is hard!! Still looking!!

They should have an AUX port from late 2006 onwards, ones produced from Summer 2006 had that as standard on ambiente and elegance afaik.

dlambirl

Thanks Zonda999

I have my money all ready to go but cant find one!

My local Skoda dealer has only ONE diesel Octavia in the forecourt at the moment and its an 2008 for €14,000 which is beyond my means!!

Zonda999

An 08 will be a nice bit more expensive than a07 or 16 alright, mainly because of the road tax situation, it'll be 450€ cheaper on a 08 one but remember it'll take a while to make up what it cost over a 07! Because of this , you should be able to drive a hard bargain on a 07

colm_mcm

Here's a 2.0 TDI 140 Elegance
Full history, new MOT

UK ones get auto wipers, lights, mirror, and headlamp washers, dunno if Irish ones have these
Car: 7395, say 7200 (E8400)
VRT 2400
travel 150
NCT 50

Total 11000

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/ni/cars_popup.jsp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&photo=1&state=block&sort=3&hassearched=Y&make=SKODA&min_pr=75&source=0&model=OCTAVIA&max_pr=8000&miles=60&agerange=5&mileage=5&postcode=ln12na&variant=&bodyid=0&trim=&fuelid=2&colour=&transmissionid=0&keywords=&ukcarsearch_full.x=40&ukcarsearch_full.y=4&ukcarsearch_full=SEARCH&start=5&distance=21&adcategory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=201019358656056

dlambirl

Yeah, I've done my calculations and it doesnt make sense to borrow more money to buy an 2008. The extra payments per year would pay easily for the increased motor tax, although I know there would be a better re-sale value on the 2008 car.

Thanks for the link colm_mcm, but I dont want the 2.0ltr model, I'd rather a 1.9ltr but thanks though!

R.O.R

dlambirl wrote: »

Yeah, I've done my calculations and it doesnt make sense to borrow more money to buy an 2008. The extra payments per year would pay easily for the increased motor tax, although I know there would be a better re-sale value on the 2008 car.

Thanks for the link colm_mcm, but I dont want the 2.0ltr model, I'd rather a 1.9ltr but thanks though!

Having driven a few of both engined variants, you don't want a 1.9Tdi, you want to pay an extra €32 a year and get the 2.0Tdi.

The 1.9Tdi is a good engine, but the 2.0Tdi is much better.

bazz26

Classic:
Black exterior door mirrors,
Electric front windows.

Ambient:
Adds colour coded exterior door mirrors,
Electric rear windows,
6 speaker stereo/radio,
Front arm rest,
Front fog lights.

Elegance:
Adds alloy wheels,
8 speaker stereo/radio,
Climate controlled air conditioning.

edgars

buy the 2.0tdi much better and better resale

Shane732

No don't do it!!!!!!

mickdw

You really should be looking at 08 cars. The 450 difference between that & 07 models will make the 07 car worthless in a few years when 07 & 08s are priced at about 3 to 4k.
Anyway my advice would be to buy a different car. They can be troublesome like most of the vw group cars but most of all, its so ugly.

Eric Cartman

mickdw wrote: »

You really should be looking at 08 cars. The 450 difference between that & 07 models will make the 07 car worthless in a few years when 07 & 08s are priced at about 3 to 4k.
Anyway my advice would be to buy a different car. They can be troublesome like most of the vw group cars but most of all, its so ugly.

dsngerous words in this forum when your on about a skoda,

2.0 elegance is the only way to go, when it comes to buying second hand elegance is all anyone would want, especially as it gets older , who wants to buy a car with no aircon and no alloys at the moment ? , id go with the uk import

dlambirl

mickdw wrote: »

You really should be looking at 08 cars. The 450 difference between that & 07 models will make the 07 car worthless in a few years when 07 & 08s are priced at about 3 to 4k.
Anyway my advice would be to buy a different car. They can be troublesome like most of the vw group cars but most of all, its so ugly.

I cant afford a 08 car mickdw, I have a budget of €10,000.
I know the re-sale value of the 2006/2007 will be much lower because of the tax issue but I cant afford to buy the 2008.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

dsngerous words in this forum when your on about a skoda,

2.0 elegance is the only way to go, when it comes to buying second hand elegance is all anyone would want, especially as it gets older , who wants to buy a car with no aircon and no alloys at the moment ? , id go with the uk import

I've heard that the 2.0 are more troublesome than the 1.9. Dunno how true/untrue that is. I'd be hoping to put alloys on it anyway so...
My local garage man does alot of importing and has told me not to expect anything with under 100K miles

colm_mcm

dlambirl wrote: »

My local garage man does alot of importing and has told me not to expect anything with under 100K miles

The only ones you can go to the UK for, get cheap and make a profit on are
high mileage ones. the one I linked had half that.

If you prefer the tractor 1.9, here's an 07 Classic with 58k for E7000, add VRT of 1400 and a few quid for travel and you're at 8850 or so.

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/ni/cars_popup.jsp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&photo=1&state=block&sort=3&hassearched=Y&make=SKODA&min_pr=75&source=0&model=OCTAVIA&max_pr=&miles=60&agerange=5&mileage=6&postcode=ln1+2na&variant=1.9&bodyid=0&trim=&fuelid=2&colour=&transmissionid=0&keywords=&ukcarsearch_full.x=14&ukcarsearch_full.y=5&ukcarsearch_full=SEARCH&start=3&distance=11&adcategory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=201019358597615

colm_mcm

or this 07 1.9 Elegance estate, which looks very smart

E8711 plus VRT of 1364 plus travel, roughly 10300 all in.

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/ni/cars_popup.jsp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&photo=1&state=block&sort=3&hassearched=Y&make=SKODA&min_pr=75&source=0&model=OCTAVIA&max_pr=&miles=60&agerange=5&mileage=6&postcode=ln1+2na&variant=1.9&bodyid=0&trim=&fuelid=2&colour=&transmissionid=0&keywords=&ukcarsearch_full.x=14&ukcarsearch_full.y=5&ukcarsearch_full=SEARCH&start=5&distance=57&adcategory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=201016357377884

Will the Octavia ever shed the muck savage image, they are a real farmer going to mass car.

EPM

RoverJames wrote: »

Will the Octavia ever shed the muck savage image, they are a real farmer going to mass car.

As long as people are sad enough to be annoyed by badge probably not

colm_mcm

If they sold more high spec versions over here they might shed the image. Had a top spec 2.0 TDI DSG estate in the UK as a rental a few years back and it felt completely different to driving a boggo 1.9.

FWIW, I think the estate is a way better looking car than the hatch.

The estate is rather tasty looking, far too many bog spec wheel trim clad ones about though over here. The Jetta from the 80s of the present day.

bazz26

Here is a fairly high spec model which should be bought on budget with a bit of hard bargining. Mileage is unusually low for the year though so I would make sure and verify the service history:

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201015197645703

colm_mcm

Nice find bazz, seems to be an Irish model going on the speedo.
Deffo verify service history, would be slightly suspicious of a C reg high spec low mileage car ending up in a non main dealer the other side of the country

Could be something as simple as a finance repo though.

dlambirl

No, sorry - wouldnt drive the estate ...... at least not yet!!

Thanks for the suggestion colm_mcm but it would at least have to be a Ambience model. My local garage man has a UK 1.9 Octavia, 104K miles for €8000 but its a Classic and I am as fickle to want an armrest, central locking and fogs

So, if I can ask your opinions - would the cars coming from the UK with high mileage be alright or should I not touch them with a barge pole. I normally wouldnt entertain buying a car with high mileage, I'd rather one with 50/60K miles but It looks like I wouldnt be able to get one of those with my budget. Is there anything I should be looking for in these Skodas, like problems???

Colm Lindsay has an excellent reputation, also know for having weird stock at high prices but nothing wrong with that.

colm_mcm

apart from inherint problems with mileage, a low miler will feel tighter and be less worn. a lot of UK cars with big miles are just doing motorways and will feel better than an Irish car with 100k.

bazz26

They were just as popular as mini cabs over there as here though so make sure to do your background checks.

colm_mcm

Here's an 07 Ambiente TDI with 34k that youd have home for 9k. (private sale)

UK Ambiente get 5 alloys, 6 disc changer, climate control and alarm that I'm pretty sure you don't get on Irish ones.




http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/ni/cars_popup.jsp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&photo=1&state=block&sort=3&hassearched=Y&make=SKODA&min_pr=75&source=0&model=OCTAVIA&max_pr=7000&miles=1500&agerange=5&mileage=5&postcode=ln12na&variant=&bodyid=0&trim=&fuelid=2&colour=&transmissionid=0&keywords=ambiente&ukcarsearch_full.x=15&ukcarsearch_full.y=2&ukcarsearch_full=SEARCH&start=1&distance=79&adcategory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=201017357667538

dlambirl

Was looking at this one alright - nice looking car.

What all should I be looking out for if I went over to the UK (or even in Ireland) buying car secondhand? Have Skoda Octavias any known problems???

colm_mcm

Get the aa or similar to inspect the car and do a hpi. Could save you a flight if it turns out to not be as good as it looks.

dlambirl

not a bad idea - wouldnt of thought of that!

Mc Love

RoverJames wrote: »

Will the Octavia ever shed the muck savage image, they are a real farmer going to mass car.

Yeah I cant understand it - pure muck savage image

dlambirl

What about this one???

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1312200

EPM

You may have bills soon with that - DMF, suspension bits and the like. Also - it's a DL reg and people have a problem with that. Sometimes for a good reason...do a search here on Donegal reg's and you'll see...

Very decent price though and if looked after will do the same again

dlambirl

Whats wrong with the donegal reg?
Surely I'll have bills with any car with his mileage - even from the UK?

Atomic Pineapple

dlambirl wrote: »

Whats wrong with the donegal reg?
Surely I'll have bills with any car with his mileage - even from the UK?

People associatte DL regs with being driven hard and not looked after, total stereotype but may affect resale value.

R.O.R

dlambirl wrote: »

What about this one???

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1312200

There is close enough to 170,000km on that car :eek:

While they'll do that mileage (I've seen 250+ km), I'd struggle to justify paying over €6,000 for anything with that mileage.

dlambirl

Well my local garage man is looking about getting a Skoda from England - and he said all of those will have 100K + miles and he was talking alot more than €6,000!
Ah I don't know what to do... head is fried at the minute.

Well rang that man and he has someone coming to look at it tomorrow so no doubt it'll be gone tomorrow evening....... awh well.

the hunt continues....

Moanin

dlambirl wrote: »

Well my local garage man is looking about getting a Skoda from England - and he said all of those will have 100K + miles and he was talking alot more than €6,000!
Ah I don't know what to do... head is fried at the minute.

Well rang that man and he has someone coming to look at it tomorrow so no doubt it'll be gone tomorrow evening....... awh well.

the hunt continues....

Why not cut out the garage man and go and get one yourself?

Tea 1000

Mc Love wrote: »

Yeah I cant understand it - pure muck savage image

The muck savage image will go when the styling improves. The grille alone is very crappy, and the badge is chronic. The overall styling isn't great.
Most marques have improved their badge design over the years in line with the marque itself moving up in the world, but Skoda for some reason seem to think that their heritage should be upheld by a gammy logo.

colm_mcm

Dunno about that T1000, muck savages don't buy a car purely on crap styling. price, availability of lots of diesels and ability to carry 4 square bales in the boot would be major factors!

Passat is a muck savage car too.

fra05

What about http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1159296 ??

Seems reasonable