Eircom back in court with IRMA over 'three strikes' agreement

Stercus Accidit

http://www.tjmcintyre.com/2010/03/update-on-eircom-irma-and-three-strikes.html

Essentially the passing on of tracked ip addresses has been raised as a concern with regard data protection laws.

Read more via the link.

P.S. cancel your account with Eircom and tell them why.

squod

There's still ****loads of people using hacked eircom boxes out there.

Hank_Jones

Eircom, what a bunch of muppets.

Basically allowed themselves to be pushed around.

They'll lose a rake load of customers.

banquo

squod wrote: »

There's still ****loads of people using hacked eircom boxes out there.

/looks guilty

squod

banquo wrote: »

/looks guilty

Don't won't use eircom like.

Mark200

Weird since when you go onto piratebay through Eircom, a message comes up that says, among other things:

eircom would like to reassure customers that:

• eircom will not monitor customer’s activities at any stage, nor will it place any monitoring equipment or software on its network in order to facilitate this block.
• eircom will not provide personal details or any information relating to customers to any third party, including the record companies.

thebman

This doesn't make sense IMO:

But the office of the Data Protection Commissioner (DPC) has indicated that using customers’ IP addresses to cut off their internet connection as a punishment for illegal downloading [presumably this should be uploading] does not constitute "fair use" of personal information. Irma and Eircom have asked the High Court to rule on whether these data-protection concerns mean the 2009 settlement cannot be enforced...

eircom assign you the IP Address and are reqquired to record activity for your account as part of the data protection act for about 6-7 years. Are they not supposed to have access to their own information about their customers?

/will be glad if the 3 strikes roll disappears. not an eircom customer though.

blubloblu

I don't have much confidence in this judge.

The_B_Man

^^ lol what??

how do they know ur goin to piratebay unless they're keeping a look out for it?!?!

My name is URL

Fcuk the ICA!

gsxr1

the thing is.

everyone I know nearly has pirated files on there computer . some loads , some little.

what they going to do. 3 strike all there customers.?? Well most anyways..

BS.

brianthebard

My name is URL wrote: »

Fcuk the ICA!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro08bILEvqc

My name is URL

brianthebard wrote: »

.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnLB8wysMbY

AnonoBoy

Downloading illegally?

Isn't that so three years ago?

I buy music and rent movies.

Am I doing something wrong?

gsxr1

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Downloading illegally?

Isn't that so three years ago?

I buy music and rent movies.

Am I doing something wrong?

So do I. BUY THAT IS>

http://www.peerblock.com

just incase I use this

ScumLord

My name is URL wrote: »

Fcuk the ICA!

What has the Irish Countrywoman's Association done to you?

thebman

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Downloading illegally?

Isn't that so three years ago?

I buy music and rent movies.

Am I doing something wrong?

No its cool, lots of people I know don't know how to download illegally too but torrents are easy to use and there are loads of guides available :P

GLaDOS

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Downloading illegally?

Isn't that so three years ago?

I buy music and rent movies.

Am I doing something wrong?

God damn hipsters

OutlawPete

I rip MP3's from YouTube.

I would never download a file without knowing what the fuck in was.

Destroyed a Laptop years back by downloading a file from Kazaa.

Nulty

OutlawPete wrote: »

I rip MP3's from YouTube.

I would never download a file without knowing what the fuck in was.

Destroyed a Laptop years back by downloading a file from Kazaa.

LimeWire was the same. Mine field for viruses (I don't say viriiririri or what ever it is).

gsxr1 wrote: »

So do I. BUY THAT IS>

http://www.peerblock.com

just incase I use this

peer guardian is another.

twinQuins

But...I've still got a 1TB HDD that's not full!

Midnight_EG

Rip MP3's from Youtube and get Movies on some other sites

Fear Uladh

I heard of a site called demonoid, never used it though....

Midnight_EG

Chillaxe wrote: »

I heard of a site called demonoid, never used it though....

I've an account on that, it's handy and I might have a couple invites, PM if you want one :]



*Disclaimer, I've no affiliation with Demonoid nor any of its partners, just being nice >.<

docdolittle

I go on to http://listen.grooveshark.com/# and get them from there

TestTransmission

Rapidshare FTW

nacho libre

gsxr1 wrote: »

the thing is.

everyone I know nearly has pirated files on there computer . some loads , some little.

what they going to do. 3 strike all there customers.?? Well most anyways..

BS.

they must figure the threat of doing so after 2 strikes will be enough to persuade many people to not engage in piracy.

Why would the Data Protection Commissioner bother to intervene and "throw a spanner in the works" if he wasn't even going to bother showing up at court?

What's the point in that?

I hope this works against the music companies though. Shower of bastards. :pac:

generalmiaow

This is very serious. I hate being that guy but the following is true:

What is being implemented here is that if a random american record company with no legal authority in Ireland makes an unproven accusation against you, that eircom will cut off your family's internet connection, and they have been literally conspiring against you and creating a secret agreement.

Remember that this is the very same stipulation that the european parliament has rejected.

Your contract with eircom is no longer an agreement in any sense of the word.

generalmiaow

thebman wrote: »

This doesn't make sense IMO:
eircom assign you the IP Address and are reqquired to record activity for your account as part of the data protection act for about 6-7 years. Are they not supposed to have access to their own information about their customers?

If this ends up anything like it does in the US, eircom will ultimately wish to disclose your dox to IRMA/RIAA etc so that they can civilly litigate you to to fund the industry and prolong its collapse.

In this case though the disclosure would be the industry's disclosure of your IP address to eircom which constitutes a transfer of personally identifying information, which is covered under DP. In other countries judges have ruled that IP addresses are not personally identifying, whereupon the lines are generally drawn.

I think the Irish Times article has confused the issue a little bit:
Eircom don't need to disclose any IP addresses because the recording industry has their own entrapment tactics using software agents in less free countries for harvesting IP addresses from torrent swarms and so on which they then geolocate and disclose to eircom.

gsxr1

Nulty wrote: »

peer guardian is another.

after a bit of reading.

apparently PeerGuardian no longer updates . Peerblock is the next generation and made by the same people.

PeerGuardian does not work well with windows 7 very well also.

Peer block has all the bugs ironed out . give it a lash.

stovelid

TestTransmission wrote: »

Rapidshare FTW

Aye, often a search of blogs turns up a lot of RS links.

Also SoulSeek which I've never (fingers crossed) got a bum file from.

banquo

Incidentally, what happens if Eircom goes under? As opposed to being gazilliond in debt.