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Count me out

  • 27-03-2010 12:11am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭


    I've a feeling this website will be getting a lot more traffic as more and more people turn their backs to the church.

    Is there anyone here who has gone through with it, seriously considering it myself.

    http://www.countmeout.ie/


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    Loads of people done it in the other thread lol. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭InkSlinger67


    Friend of mine signed up for this a while back and the next day got knifed by a nun! Wouldn't go near it!

    Count me out of countmeout.com


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭WildBoots


    seanybiker wrote: »
    Loads of people done it in the other thread lol. :)

    Didn't see it. Can you remember what the main reason was? I'm assuming it was due to the buggering of half the population.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    WildBoots wrote: »
    Didn't see it. Can you remember what the main reason was? I'm assuming it was due to the buggering of half the population.
    Think that was the main reason and many read that dawkins or whatever ya call him and became legends at dispelling religion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    WildBoots wrote: »
    Didn't see it. Can you remember what the main reason was? I'm assuming it was due to the buggering of half the population.

    Is there a CountMeOutOfIreland website?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    dvpower wrote: »
    Is there a CountMeOutOfIreland website?

    Yep


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I couldn't be arsed leaving something that I don't subscribe to in the first place. So my name's in a dusty old register.. I'm a number.. so fcuking what?!

    Having 100,000 people sign out of something won't change anything. Religion will still exist because some people have nothing else to believe in.. Only those with a stake in the church and belief in what it is that's worth figting to improve can bring about change.. Like that priest on The Late Late Show tonight.. he'll do more to change things than I ever could by sending off a letter


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    I couldn't be arsed leaving something that I don't subscribe to in the first place. So my name's in a dusty old register.. I'm a number.. so fcuking what?!

    Having 100,000 people sign out of something won't change anything. Religion will still exist because some people have nothing else to believe in.. Only those with a stake in the church and belief in what it is that's worth figting to improve can bring about change

    Yeah but it makes people feel like they are part of rage against the machine.
    pointless in my great opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭Dunjohn


    It's basically a giant internet petition. And those always work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    see ya


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    The Catholic church? Count me in, not out..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    seanybiker wrote: »
    Think that was the main reason and many read that dawkins or whatever ya call him and became legends at dispelling religion.

    Dawkins has theories and theres plenty of things he can't explain so he's far from able to dispell religion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    WildBoots wrote: »
    Didn't see it. Can you remember what the main reason was? I'm assuming it was due to the buggering of half the population.

    FF call it pole-ing the electorate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭JuneBug29


    I have used this site to get the documentation together to defect. I have since, having sent it off, received a letter back asking me to meet with the bishop. I have contacted countmeout.ie to see if this is a common thing and apparently it is. It was not specified in the letter what the meeting would be about but count me out have informed me that it is (generally) not to put me off but is a standard meeting they request for anyone wishing to defect, to run over the consequences of defecting from the church (not like i haven't taken them into consideration before sending the letter). I have yet to hear back from my reply but i am told that i can still get my request processed without a meeting and that it is just their preferred way of doing it.

    On a practical note, the website is the place for all the documentation needed to defect. The website is www.countmeout.ie and any queries i have had have been answered (very quickly) by the people working on the count me out website.

    If you do not wish to defect but are upset with what is going on in the church and wish to voice your concerns, countmeout.ie has a section for that too (go to the main page and click on the "Email your diocese" section). I no longer wish to be part of the church as i have not had any faith in a long time and with the recent revelations i feel i cannot be a part of it anymore. If anyone still has faith and wants to still be part of the catholic church, but is not happy with what is going on, i strongly encourage you to email your local diocese which countmeout.ie allows you to do. There is a generic message set up for you to tweak as you wish.

    I have respect for people believing in what they want to believe in and i have no problem with people believing in the catholic faith but what has gone on is disgraceful.

    If you have no faith, consider the countmeout.ie website. If you do? Please consider sending an email (which the website has a template for) to your local diocese to communicate your disappointment in what is going on.

    Whether you have faith or not what has transpired is nothing short of sickening so whether its a defection or an email to your local diocese please try to move this on forward from the point it is at.

    EDIT: WildBoots feel free to contact me for any info


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    I'm presuming the people who sign it won't be using the churches for weddings or funerals in the future?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭dubtom


    I treat the church as I do a restaurant that gives bad service,just don't go back. Eventually,when the lolly stops rolling in,they'll just go away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    seanybiker wrote: »
    Yeah but it makes people feel like they are part of rage against the machine.
    pointless in my great opinion.

    Can I be Tom Morello? I wanna be that good at the guitar.

    What are we talking about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Boring! it's much more fun to be excommunicated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    profitius wrote: »
    I'm presuming the people who sign it won't be using the churches for weddings or funerals in the future?

    I don't think they'd be interested to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    bronte wrote: »
    I don't think they'd be interested to be honest.

    You'd be surprised. People are willing to bend their principles whenever it suits them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭Xluna


    No,I could'nt be bothered. Instead I'll just state my religion as either atheist or non religious on the census again. Easier and far more effective in lowering the churchs power in this country. Internet petitions seldom work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    profitius wrote: »
    You'd be surprised. People are willing to bend their principles whenever it suits them.

    Well those people are as hypocritical as the church they "occasionally" visit then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,201 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    WildBoots wrote: »
    I've a feeling this website will be getting a lot more traffic as more and more people turn their backs to the church.

    What? People are turning from the church to boards?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,315 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    profitius wrote: »
    I'm presuming the people who sign it won't be using the churches for weddings or funerals in the future?

    I certainly won't be be having any religious mumbo jumbo when I croak it. I've told my next of kin so.

    The marriage thing doesn't apply since this country (let alone the catholic Church, or maybe they are one and the same) doesn't give me equal marriage rights anyway. Even if it did though, I wouldn't be having some man in a dress mumbo-jumboing to make it valid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Boring! it's much more fun to be excommunicated.
    Would you like to be pope? Easy to organise down the pub. You know you want to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    I dont believe in god and i wouldnt be letting a Priest babysit for me any time soon, but when that meteor is heading for earth and we all got 1 hour to live i might just cash in my "ive wandered from the flock please forgive me ('cause you have to lol)" now save me lord


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    snyper wrote: »
    I dont believe in god and i wouldnt be letting a Priest babysit for me any time soon, but when that meteor is heading for earth and we all got 1 hour to live i might just cash in my "ive wandered from the flock please forgive me ('cause you have to lol)" now save me lord


    Meh, chances are that if a meteor hits earth we won't have prior knowledge of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭beanyb


    profitius wrote: »
    I'm presuming the people who sign it won't be using the churches for weddings or funerals in the future?

    That is included in the consequences outlined by count me out. If you get deleted from the baptismal register, you can no longer take part in any sacraments. My mother was surprisingly bothered by my desire to withdraw from the church for this precise reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 649 ✭✭✭Antbert


    I think countmeout is great, and if you're a grumpy atheist like me who was unfortunately baptised, it's well worth using, even if it's just making a statement.

    However, I do NOT understand the mentality of people who are pissed off with the kiddie fiddling priests using it. How fickle are you? Just because some people who also happen to believe the same thing you do were child molesters is a pretty lame reason to turn your back on your religion. Turn your back for a GOOD reason.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    The countmeout campaign strikes me as being very worthy but rather pointless TBH
    A "defection" is not the same as being "debaptised". The Church believes that a baptism cannot be reversed so, in their eyes, a renounced former-Catholic has abandoned the Church but remains a Christian

    What if s/he has converted to say Islam ?
    profitius wrote: »
    I'm presuming the people who sign it won't be using the churches for weddings or funerals in the future?

    Is that not the whole point ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    profitius wrote: »
    I'm presuming the people who sign it won't be using the churches for weddings or funerals in the future?

    We (the Irish people) paid for and built the buildings, and very nice buildings they are too. I'll use them for whatever the hell I please.

    (But personally when I die I'm going to have that thing done where they turn your ashes into a motherfukking diamond :eek:, seriously it's a real thing you can do. How rock n roll is that shit!. If I get married I'll probably do what a friend of mine did and have a kickass party on an Australian beach in the sun shine.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 258 ✭✭Willie Stroker




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    bleg wrote: »
    Meh, chances are that if a meteor hits earth we won't have prior knowledge of it.

    i think the flaming ball in the sky rocketing towards us might be a hint :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭wylo


    Xluna wrote: »
    No,I could'nt be bothered. Instead I'll just state my religion as either atheist or non religious on the census again. Easier and far more effective in lowering the churchs power in this country. Internet petitions seldom work.
    This is true, I even asked them and they said that would make just as much a difference.
    The only thing keeping these churches going are people going to mass every sunday, when that stops the church will stop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    profitius wrote: »
    You'd be surprised. People are willing to bend their principles whenever it suits them.

    Like the millions of catholics in the country the country that have sex before marriage, use contraception and beat the meat


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭Erren Music


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    The countmeout campaign strikes me as being very worthy but rather pointless TBH

    No it is not. If the census results show a massive % drop in catholics then the church will have no right to say Ireland is 92% catholic.
    Paparazzo wrote: »
    Like the millions of catholics in the country the country that have sex before marriage, use contraception and beat the meat

    Exactly, these people should not be recorded as catholic on the census.



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