Am I the only one who doesn't like Glee?

greenie

I don't know if this section is just for positive comments on Glee but I have to get this off my chest!!
I'm not into it at all...I have watched quite a few episodes as the reviews have been so great and I thought I'd give it a chance. Sometimes it can take a while before you become hooked but no..still not getting it.
Some of my reasons :
Is this supposed to be high school or college? Either way half the actors are nearly 30 years old in real life. I believe there are many talented youngsters in the US they could have used. Why not make a show about 26-30 year olds if you're going to be hiring that age group?
They are obviously miming. It's so obvious that it annoys me. I don't know whether the actors pre record their own voices & mime to that or just mime to someone else's voice. One episode they kept switching between 2 girls women singing one song...Rachel & some drunk blonde ex student...well there was only one vocal on that song so who knows. Also that was not Rachel singing that Lily Allen song 'Smile' recently.
The storylines go a little something like this..popular kids join Glee...popular kids get flak for being in Glee...popular kids leave Glee...popular kids realise Glee is more important than popularity so they join Glee again..then they quit again...then join again...Baddie (cheerleader coach) will inevitably try to ruin things for Glee club in each episode...throw in a gay guy and a teenage pregnancy and there you have it. Not stimulating so far.


So if you love this show...great & sorry for the rant but I just don't get the hype!

anotherlostie

I think this is for fans of the show. If you don't like it, don't come here and give out, would be my perspective.

cypharius

greenie, I completely agree, the cliched acting and dialogue makes me want to smash my head in.

But yeah, it was marketed wrong, it's really aimed at 12 year old girls, so it kinda has to be ****.

greenie

I guess it makes a lot more sense if it's aimed at the younger kids...:)

trickortreat

yes i have actually been wondering that myself, so its nice to know that im not on my own there,

Chinafoot

greenie wrote: »

They are obviously miming. It's so obvious that it annoys me. I don't know whether the actors pre record their own voices & mime to that or just mime to someone else's voice.

Its a tv show, they pre-record their own voices.

greenie wrote: »

One episode they kept switching between 2 girls women singing one song...Rachel & some drunk blonde ex student...well there was only one vocal on that song so who knows.

One vocal? Are you suggesting that both women were miming to the same voice? LOL. Both actresses are extremely accomplished Broadway performers. I'd suggest an ear cleaning mate.

greenie wrote: »

Also that was not Rachel singing that Lily Allen song 'Smile' recently.

Yes it was.

Look, if you don't like it then chances are you don't watch it and therefore you have no need to talk about it. People are fully entitled to their opinion of the show but if you're going to criticise it you should probably make sure you aren't quite as uninformed as you have been here.

There is a thread in the Ranting & Raving forum where you can have a moan.

beanyb

cypharius wrote: »

greenie, I completely agree, the cliched acting and dialogue makes me want to smash my head in.

But yeah, it was marketed wrong, it's really aimed at 12 year old girls, so it kinda has to be ****.

Wow, I dont know how you can think Glee is aimed at 12 year olds. It has a fairly grown up humour. A lot of the cliched dialogue and acting is done on purpose. It's as much a piss take of high school shows as it is a high school show. It's a much more clever show than you are giving it credit for. Watch High School Musical and then compare the two!

And as Chinafoot said, the idea that Lea Michele and Kristin Chenoweth were singing the same vocals is ridiculous. I totally accept the rubbish miming criticism generally. And some of the actors (I'm looking at you, Finn and Quinn) dont have particularly great voices. But of all the people you could have picked, those two have SPECTACULAR voices.

greenie

Chinafoot wrote: »

Its a tv show, they pre-record their own voices.



One vocal? Are you suggesting that both women were miming to the same voice? LOL. Both actresses are extremely accomplished Broadway performers. I'd suggest an ear cleaning mate.




Yes it was.

Look, if you don't like it then chances are you don't watch it and therefore you have no need to talk about it. People are fully entitled to their opinion of the show but if you're going to criticise it you should probably make sure you aren't quite as uninformed as you have been here.

There is a thread in the Ranting & Raving forum where you can have a moan.

Well firstly I have watched many episodes of the show which I mentioned in my post..the post you're quoting from. Obviously I would have to have seen the show to know I don't like it, right?!!

Secondly I wasn't sure if they pre recorded their own voices or mimed to others...that does not make me uninformed considering one of the two was right! Many shows may pre record and have the artists mime but a lot of the time you can't really tell. In this show you can.

Thirdly (this is for beabyb too) I did not rubbish the girls' vocals at all..I did however listen to the song and if it was not for the tv screen jumping between the two of them, I would never have known there were two vocals on that song. Kristin has an amazing voice and it is very very different to Lea's, I'm sure you'll agree. I'm just saying if that song had 2 vocals then they were very similar. Maybe if you listen to it without looking at the tv you'll understand what I mean.

Chinafoot I read there was a Glee R&R area but when I clicked it wouldn't let me in...said I wasn't authorized. I posted in the 'Glee' forum because..well it's all things Glee isn't it? I feel bad now because I notice every thread apart from mine seems to be by lovers of the show. I wouldn't want to upset any youngsters and if that happens hopefully a mod will remove or move this.

@beanyb..ahhh you've got me thinking..if it is a piss take then that's a whole other (much better) story..I could relate to that:)

beanyb

It's absolutely a piss take greenie! It's supposed to be ridiculous and over the top. It's possible that a lot of people watch it completely sincerely as if it is meant to be taken seriously, but I genuinely dont think it is.

cyning

glee is fluff... i love it but so not supposed to be taken seriously! Great vocals, fluffy storylines: perfect rainy day/dark evening television imo just enjoy it for what it is!

Chinafoot

greenie wrote: »

Well firstly I have watched many episodes of the show which I mentioned in my post..the post you're quoting from. Obviously I would have to have seen the show to know I don't like it, right?!!

I don't get why you feel the need to come onto a forum dedicated to a show and then slate said show. What are you gaining? If you don't like it change the channel when its on. Simple.

greenie wrote: »

Secondly I wasn't sure if they pre recorded their own voices or mimed to others...that does not make me uninformed considering one of the two was right! Many shows may pre record and have the artists mime but a lot of the time you can't really tell. In this show you can.

I don't recall anyone saying you couldn't tell they mimed. In fact if you read some of the threads in this forum you'll see that its been mentioned a few times.

greenie wrote: »

Thirdly (this is for beabyb too) I did not rubbish the girls' vocals at all..I did however listen to the song and if it was not for the tv screen jumping between the two of them, I would never have known there were two vocals on that song. Kristin has an amazing voice and it is very very different to Lea's, I'm sure you'll agree. I'm just saying if that song had 2 vocals then they were very similar. Maybe if you listen to it without looking at the tv you'll understand what I mean.

Nobody said you were slating them. However, your post implied that the two girls were miming to one vocal, in other words its either not them singing at all or its only one of them. Thats why I pointed out how accomplished they are. With or without the tv, the two vocals on that song are nothing alike.

greenie wrote: »

Chinafoot I read there was a Glee R&R area but when I clicked it wouldn't let me in...said I wasn't authorized.

Contact a mod and ask for access.

greenie wrote: »

I posted in the 'Glee' forum because..well it's all things Glee isn't it?

Reading the "Charter - work in progress" thread would serve you well. Since you obviously didn't, I'll happily quote the bit thats relevant to you.

It smacks of childishness to come into a forum and openly air your hate for it. It defies logic. What do you gain from it? What do we gain from it? The answer is nothing but a pain in the face, unless of course you are some petty person who likes to belittle people for their interests, then you may get a small kick from it then go back to your sad life. Who knows.

Basically in plain english, if you don't like Glee don't post in the GLEE forum.

greenie wrote: »

I feel bad now because I notice every thread apart from mine seems to be by lovers of the show. I wouldn't want to upset any youngsters and if that happens hopefully a mod will remove or move this.

Youngsters? LOL. I absolutely love how people give out about a comedy show with themes like teen pregnancy, faked pregnancy, homosexuality, extra marital affairs etc, by claiming its for kids. Glee is a comedy. Its not aimed at 12 year old.

greenie wrote: »

@beanyb..ahhh you've got me thinking..if it is a piss take then that's a whole other (much better) story..I could relate to that:)

*slow clap*

degausserxo

greenie wrote: »

Secondly I wasn't sure if they pre recorded their own voices or mimed to others...that does not make me uninformed considering one of the two was right! Many shows may pre record and have the artists mime but a lot of the time you can't really tell. In this show you can.

They have sang without it being prerecorded, albeit not often. But if they weren't prerecorded, I guess you'd be picking at it for not sounding polished enough. It's a tv show. None of the things that happen in it are real. That goes for spontaneous, perfect singing too.

greenie wrote: »

I wouldn't want to upset any youngsters and if that happens hopefully a mod will remove or move this.

Jesus, patronise much?

mrs2be.ie

I didn't like it at first, but the production is great and they can really sing!

greenie

Chinafoot wrote: »

Youngsters? LOL. I absolutely love how people give out about a comedy show with themes like teen pregnancy, faked pregnancy, homosexuality, extra marital affairs etc, by claiming its for kids. Glee is a comedy. Its not aimed at 12 year old.

Read the other posts..I didn't actually know it was a comedy & was informed by others it was a kids show...it is not advertised as a comedy...it is not up for any comedy awards..few people know it's supposed to be a comedy actually. It was only when beanyb said it was a pisstake that it actually made sense. I can watch it now knowing that. When people say it is for kids you have to understand that that is easy to believe as a major percentage of its viewers are actually kids. It's understandable how people get confused at which audience this show is aimed at.

This show has been slated as having the worst sound effects available. If they spent a bit of money on that then in my opinion the show would improve ten fold. I really don't want to go back and forth about this chinafoot..we each have our thoughts and opinions..we both agree this thread doesn't belong here so just let it die ok. I won't even get into the ways the *slow clap* can be interpreted.
I will end on this...having been made aware that it is in fact a comedy/pisstake really shows it in a different light (for me).

greenie

degausserxo wrote: »

They have sang without it being prerecorded

Have they? Do they do live shows aswell? I know its unusual to sing live on pre recorded shows because so many artists find it hard to sing & dance at the same time.

degausserxo

greenie wrote: »

Have they? Do they do live shows aswell? I know its unusual to sing live on pre recorded shows because so many artists find it hard to sing & dance at the same time.

Yes and yes.

Chinafoot

greenie wrote: »

Read the other posts..I didn't actually know it was a comedy & was informed by others it was a kids show...it is not advertised as a comedy...it is not up for any comedy awards..few people know it's supposed to be a comedy actually. It was only when beanyb said it was a pisstake that it actually made sense. I can watch it now knowing that. When people say it is for kids you have to understand that that is easy to believe as a major percentage of its viewers are actually kids. It's understandable how people get confused at which audience this show is aimed at.

Anyone who says its for kids clearly hasn't seen it and automatically assumes that its the same as High School Musical. Laziness. Do you really think the character of Sue Sylvester ("You think this is hard? Try water boarding. Now thats hard") would be in a kids show? Her lines are pure comedy. The show is advertised as a comedy. Its on E4 for goodness sake, not Cbeebies.

greenie wrote: »

This show has been slated as having the worst sound effects available. If they spent a bit of money on that then in my opinion the show would improve ten fold.

What on earth are you talking about? The worst sound effects?? The only thing wrong with this show is that the cast are awful at miming. There is nothing wrong with the production on the songs. What "sound effects" are are being slated? Again, I'm sorry to say, it simply sounds like you havent a clue what you're on about.

greenie wrote: »

I really don't want to go back and forth about this chinafoot..we each have our thoughts and opinions..we both agree this thread doesn't belong here so just let it die ok. I won't even get into the ways the *slow clap* can be interpreted.
I will end on this...having been made aware that it is in fact a comedy/pisstake really shows it in a different light (for me).

You've stated an uninformed opinion and I'm perfectly entitled to refute that. You made the decision to post here after all. Oh and there's only one interpretation of *slow clap*, but given your comments in this thread I'm unsurprised at you confusing what it means.

greenie

Chinafoot wrote: »

I'm sorry to say, it simply sounds like you havent a clue what you're on about

......and breathe Chinafoot!!!
Ok I've admitted (how many times now?) that I didn't initially know it was a comedy or a pisstake and that I get it now. The first number of episodes didn't have the pregnancy/fake pregnancy/homosexuality & affairs storylines...remember? I am one of many who start off slightly confused as to which genre this show falls into. I honestly don't think we're all ridiculous (or lazy?) for not getting it.

The sound effects I'm talking about have nothing to do with the actors but with sound production... the way the miming comes across on tv. The dubbing in particular. That's what on earth I'm talking about!

You love the show, I get it...and you're mad that I'm not into it that much, I definitely get that!! In each of my replies I've tried explaining my previous posts or explaining sentences that you have taken up wrong but it's like you're not even reading my posts..you're accusing me of being uninformed and clueless..I mean I said I realized I made a mistake posting here right? I thought 'all things Glee' was for good and bad posts..I said I felt bad didn't I? Yet you quoted nearly all of that post except that bit!

The last bit of your post I will take as an insult. There are 4 interpretations of a slow clap that I know of..2 of which are insults...I'm confused as to which 2 though!:rolleyes:

Rabies

anotherlostie wrote: »

I think this is for fans of the show. If you don't like it, don't come here and give out, would be my perspective.

ha ha... Tripe.

The poster is giving his opinion on the show, nothing wrong with that.

Valid reasons were given. Same story across the hedge on the Lost forum and many more.

A forum can be about a topic or genre, but allow it to have two sides as long as its discussed properly.

Different story if he came in and only posted " Glee is sh!te " and walked away.

anotherlostie

Rabies, would you consider it OK for me to go on the Tattoos and Piercing forum and say that I think those things are vile (and give my reasons) and why would anyone get a tattoo? I wouldn't and I apply the same logic here.

People on the Lost forum complain about aspects of the episodes - there is even a whiners' thread. If someone posted a thread "Am I the only one who doesn't like Lost", I would expect it to get short shrift.

AdmiralRazor

I'm with you, greenie. I was hooked on the pilot but my interest rapidly mutated into contempt.

Hackneyed dialogue, cardboard cut-out characters, bland storytelling and uninspired song choices; this show has it all!

And aside from the overachiever, the token black character and the woefully characterised homosexual, does anyone else feel that the cast wouldn't be out of place in an episode of Gossip Girl?

Rabies

anotherlostie wrote: »

Rabies, would you consider it OK for me to go on the Tattoos and Piercing forum and say that I think those things are vile (and give my reasons) and why would anyone get a tattoo? I wouldn't and I apply the same logic here.

People on the Lost forum complain about aspects of the episodes - there is even a whiners' thread. If someone posted a thread "Am I the only one who doesn't like Lost", I would expect it to get short shrift.

Honestly, yes.

There is nothing wrong with giving an opposing view point. Its about how its constructed and delivered.

MickShamrock

Glee is just a fun, entertaining, feel good show. It isn't really pushing any agenda's and doesn't take itself too seriously. It's a breath of fresh air compared to most of the crap that passes for entertainment on tv these days.

ghostdog1

The Journey cover alone makes me want to stick my finger in my eye, it's played on the radio non stop!! It's a pile of sh*te! I'll never get it and never get why people get so hot & bothered if you don't like it!!

optogirl

I too decided to give it a go after several workmates ranted on about it including a couple of the lads who I would have fairly common taste in TV with - Never have I been so dissapointed. A big shiny pile of cack.

rovert

I was actually very disappointed going by the hype I was expecting something of much higher standard production and script wise. I’ve seen better shows on Nickelodeon. Mostly I was disappointed in the characterisation as someone noted above.