Cuffe getting a good roasting from VB on TV3 at the moment

gandalf

Our newest Junior Minister is getting a real roasting at the moment from Vincent Browne.

Not very impressed at all by him and especially at the "lying in an interview" example he spouted.

IrishTonyO

That was fun, watching Cuffee die multiple deaths on air. So he is afraid of Patrica McKenna, and then the reason he gave was, not good for 2 people from the same party to be arguing. Vincent Browne had to point out McKenna is NOT a member of the Green party.

And he is not going to have 2 drivers for his ministerial car, just the one!!!

Have to say this interview just shows how out of his depth Cuffee is

gandalf

Yep it was cringe worthy alright.

gandalf

Dublin Docklands Authority going to be discussed next. Odds on Vincent taking another bit out of Cuffe are high I reckon

InReality

Cuffe was very incoherent.

JonathanAnon

Vincent was very petty as usual, but Cuffe looked seriously rattled..

Interesting to hear what Mattie McGrath said... Cowan is "lazy and inept"...

IrishTonyO

I'd say it will be a LONG LONG time before Cuffee goes on VB again

Loved when Vincent said to him, "you didn't think I would ask the questions I did, as if you did you would have been better prepared"

sceptre

IrishTonyO wrote: »

Vincent Browne had to point out McKenna is NOT a member of the Green party.

Given the vitriol spouted from both sides as McKenna publicly exited the Greens, calling her former GP colleagues "nothing but hypocrites", it's surprising that Cuffe didn't notice. Especially with him being a TD for Dun Laoghaire, McKenna running as an independent candidate last summer in the Euro elections in Dublin and Déirdre de Búrca running in Dublin for the Greens.

I'd go so far as to say that he may be the last Green Party member in the country to realise that Patricia McKenna has left the party. It's not as though it was done quietly.

"How'd the euro elections go Ciaran?"
"Ah, Patricia didn't get as many votes as we thought she would so no Green seat"
"Erm, never mind, any word on that de Búrca woman's performance, you know, the, er, other green candidate?"

I'm sure the head talks to the legs the odd time. Cuffe definitely remembers an old conversation with Gormley about musical cabinet chairs after all.

There's likely to be an element of shell shock, after all Browne can be excellent at pinning people down and it's his first outing (he should have picked an easier one). Pointless giving him ammunition like that willingly though, with so few "names" in the Greens either currently or in the past, they can all be counted on ten fingers so it's almost difficult not to remember who's who.

dixiefly

Cuffe's eyes were moving all around the place. I was thinking to myself....Is this really the standard of out ministers?

rovert

Good thing Malcom Tucker isnt in Fianna Fail :P

Nodin

Turned on the TV for my morning dose of Vincenzo and lo and behold - 'Supernanny'. Granted there's some superficial similarities but still....

FlutterinBantam

Browne is great at skewering the little man, the counselor from somewhere, the back bencher not used to the spotlight.

Not saying Cuffe is in that category, but when he nails serial wafflers like Mary O'Rourke,Seán Ardagh,Pat Carey, Joe Higgins , instead of indulging them and joshing with them, he might get a bit more kudos from this poster.

sceptre

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

instead of indulging them and joshing with them

Ah now...

that's a pretty excellent point.

Do you reckon VB indulges in a bit of "in the select club/not in the select club" with some of the Irish politicians when deciding whether or not to poke the knife in or is he just scoring cheapish points where he can?

ednwireland

why didnt ciaran just say we all want ministerial pensions before we get booted out ?

would've been honest at least

deadhead13

It was a truly awful performance by Cuffe, but who cares if the greens had deals, secret or otherwise, about who gets what job when. It was hardly the most vital issue of the day. Cuffes refusal to appear with McKenna was deemed by VB to be tantamount to "bullying" the Tonight with Vincent Browne show and this is the real reason he had a "right I'll show you attitude from the start".

http://www.tv3.ie/shows.php?request=tonightwithvincentbrowne

FlutterinBantam

sceptre wrote: »

Ah now...

that's a pretty excellent point.

Do you reckon VB indulges in a bit of "in the select club/not in the select club" with some of the Irish politicians when deciding whether or not to poke the knife in or is he just scoring cheapish points where he can?

In my opinion yes.

Going back to his days on radio RTE1 @ 2200 his favourite bit of fun seemed to me to be to invite some poor 'up-and-coming' on the show, bone him and fillet him live on air,and spend the rest of the show in harmless chit chat with his stable of regular guests.. Harmless Joe Higgins, Mammy(I was in Govt for the last yonks years, but I'm not responsible for anything) O'Rourke, Seán (I'm only an ordinary Joe Soap with no influence) Ardagh, Pat( shure I am one of your own Vince, don't put the hard stuff to me) Carey.and many others.

Never adopted the same line of interviewing to them, even though they would be much closer to the seat of power than the poor patsy he just attacked and left in a pool of sweat.

Not sure if he adopts the same modus operandi on the Tv but certainly on radio, that seemed to be the process.

gizmo555

Just watching this on the web. Cuffe's justification for keeping the "rotation" deal (which he elevates to the level of a principle) is nonsensical. He says it was kept secret to avoid undermining the authority of ministers if it were known they wouldn't serve a full term in office. If the Greens are ever in government again, it will automatically be assumed that they are going to rotate ministries (it's a principle after all). So, this is a deception they can use exactly once. I use the word deception advisedly too - I have friends active in the Green Party and the first they heard of this deal core party principle was through the media.

Sir Oxman

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Browne is great at skewering the little man, the counselor from somewhere, the back bencher not used to the spotlight.

Not saying Cuffe is in that category, but when he nails serial wafflers like Mary O'Rourke,Seán Ardagh,Pat Carey, Joe Higgins , instead of indulging them and joshing with them, he might get a bit more kudos from this poster.

I remember VB dissecting, filleting and sh*í*tting out Ardagh last September.

The O'Rourke one is touted around various shows as the Mammy and it disgusts me.

Aidric

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

but when he nails serial wafflers like Mary O'Rourke,Seán Ardagh,Pat Carey, Joe Higgins , instead of indulging them and joshing with them, he might get a bit more kudos from this poster.

Whatever about the rest but he indulges Ardagh to a worrying level. His performances on VB have been consistently weak yet Browne never nails him.

alejandro1977

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

In my opinion yes.

Going back to his days on radio RTE1 @ 2200 his favourite bit of fun seemed to me to be to invite some poor 'up-and-coming' on the show, bone him and fillet him live on air,and spend the rest of the show in harmless chit chat with his stable of regular guests.. Harmless Joe Higgins, Mammy(I was in Govt for the last yonks years, but I'm not responsible for anything) O'Rourke, Seán (I'm only an ordinary Joe Soap with no influence) Ardagh, Pat( shure I am one of your own Vince, don't put the hard stuff to me) Carey.and many others.

Never adopted the same line of interviewing to them, even though they would be much closer to the seat of power than the poor patsy he just attacked and left in a pool of sweat.

Not sure if he adopts the same modus operandi on the Tv but certainly on radio, that seemed to be the process.

He reduced one of his own (junior) female staff members to tears a few years ago.

The head of RTE Radio (small but combative woman - Helen Shaw?) was able to stand up to him and made him apologize

patmar

All bullies are cowards and all cowards are bullies. This applies to Browne more than anyone in media. Spots a weak person he goes for the throat, Cuffe was weak. Browne is dismissed by most of the heavy politicians and his show has become a non-entity

IrishTonyO

patmar wrote: »

All bullies are cowards and all cowards are bullies. This applies to Browne more than anyone in media. Spots a weak person he goes for the throat, Cuffe was weak. Browne is dismissed by most of the heavy politicians and his show has become a non-entity

He is dismissed by heavy politicians because he asks the hard questions and they are afraid of being caught out. Also Cuffe refused to appear if Patricia McKenna was on, which she was meant to be. Trying to get an easy ride through the program, that would make most people go harder on him.

I say well done Vincent

anymore

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Browne is great at skewering the little man, the counselor from somewhere, the back bencher not used to the spotlight.

Not saying Cuffe is in that category, but when he nails serial wafflers like Mary O'Rourke,Seán Ardagh,Pat Carey, Joe Higgins , instead of indulging them and joshing with them, he might get a bit more kudos from this poster.

He was the only journalist to stand up at a news conference , prior to the 07 General election and seriously question Ahern about corruption. FF's Montrose PR station, RTE, presented it as some kind of victory for Ahern that he avoided answering Browne's questions. Of course RTE wasnt seriously analysing FF's Economy destroying manifesto either.

FlutterinBantam

anymore wrote: »

He was the only journalist to stand up at a news conference , prior to the 07 General election and seriously question Ahern about corruption. FF's Montrose PR station, RTE, presented it as some kind of victory for Ahern that he avoided answering Browne's questions. Of course RTE wasnt seriously analysing FF's Economy destroying manifesto either.

Yes ,but that's not my point which is, he has a coterie of guests with whom he joshes with and indulges.

Take Mammy O'Rourke, that woman has been part of FF both in Parlm. party /Minister/Senior member over the last twenty years.

Browne allows her to carry on as if she is on the outside looking in and commenting on what 'they' should do.:eek:'They' being Fianna Fail!!


Likewise Higgins, vieing with each other for the quip of the night and the banter is harmless.Totally harmless.

Higgins is never interrogated properly as to how his harebrained stupid political outlook could EVER work in today's society, without dismantling all efforts at innovation, entrepreneurship , and risk taking,and handing the country over to a coterie of punters who want to wallow in a sea of mediocrity and squalor, and be happy to stay there.


Vinny, cop yourself on and go for the punters who really run the country, don't try to gain a 'rep.' on squashing the little man.

Some of us have you copped.

IrishTonyO

Have just watched this interview another 2 times and have to say it gets funnier each time you watch it.

Spiritoftheseventies

Not as half as funny as Nells trip to zoo as recounted on Browne last night. Hilarious stuff.