Pesticides cause high cancer rates in agricultural workers in France

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Pesticide spraying leads to high cancer rates in people working on farms according to an item on the main TF1 20h evening news in France this evening.

http://www.victimes-pesticides.fr/

http://videos.tf1.fr/jt-20h/le-20-heures-du-25-mars-2010-5786620.html

DagneyTaggart

Something for us monolinguists probe?

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DagneyTaggart wrote: »

Something for us monolinguists probe?

Some of the videos have been subtitled in English - eg

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xchy0j_paul-fran%C3%A7ois-victim-of-pesticides_news

Do a google search with "victimes pesticides" as your keywords, and click on "translate this page"

Assuming you live on a farm, you have no excuse for not putting up a satellite dish pointed at Astra 1 (best to go for all the satellites at 19.2 and 13.0 degrees east) - with several thousand TV and radio channels from all over Europe. Just watch the news every night in one language and you will pick the language up and a lot of useful information. No different to having your fruit and veg every day as part of a healthy diet!

probe

There is an alternative to pesticides and weed killers and similar. Produce bio (organic) food. And get a higher price for your work.
And add more value to the product while you are at it.

Example – I live on the continent and in one’s local hypermarket there is a massive choice of food from everywhere (75 checkouts and 1,000 staff in the store) – eg 25kg bags of rice from Thailand (almost as big as a sack of coal) to tiny portions of caviar. In the salmon section there are a few Irish products – but they are all smoked and squeezed into a plastic wrap – with no added value.

While I would love to buy the Irish salmon (and sometimes do), I generally end up taking the capriccio du saumon a l'aneth (which is typically Norwegian salmon turned into a civilised cuisine product in France).

1) The capriccio salmon is not smoked (smoked foods are mildly carcinogenic – and smoking distorts the flavour of the food).

2) The French add olive oil, lemon and dill to the product, making it addictively pleasant and a very healthy food to eat.

It sells for €8 per 100g – ie €80 per kg.

Next time you go to France, go to a Casino supermarket, head for the fish, pick up their own brand “Capriccio du saumon a l'aneth” and take it to your hotel room. You’d pay €50 for it in a three star Michelin restaurant as a starter.

Irish food producers need to focus on removing chemicals from the production process, creating healthy food products, adding value by making them drop dead gorgeous (eg selling them packaged using classical Italian and French cuisine recipes), and controlling brands. Ireland has a green image – but it not being exploited – and it is fake while food producers subscribe to the Monsanto doctrine.

Anyone going to France to look for ideas should stop off at a FNAC media store and pick up the “Le Monde selon Monsanto” DVD – the sound track is in English, French and German - €13. It was made by http://www.arte.tv which is a TV channel funded by the French and German governments (available free to air all over Europe on Astra satellite). The DVD goes into the risks of pesticides, weedkillers and genetic modification.

It is also available on Amazon :
http://www.amazon.fr/monde-selon-Monsanto-Marie-Monique-Robin/dp/B001684BP0/

If you are interested in eating or producing healthy food, this book is a good starting point:

http://www.amazon.fr/10-Secrets-100-Healthy-People/dp/1405507594/

The guy who wrote it did extensive research on people who didn't need to visit the doctor or go to hospital and focused on the food they consumed.

Hagar

probe wrote: »

Next time you go to France, go to a Casino supermarket, head for the fish, pick up their own brand “Capriccio du saumon a l'aneth” and take it to your hotel room. You’d pay €50 for it in a three star Michelin restaurant as a starter.

Geant Casino are expensive though Carrefour / Auchan are cheaper and have a much wider range. Apart from that I wouldn't disagree with anything you've said.

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Geant Casino are expensive though Carrefour / Auchan are cheaper and have a much wider range. Apart from that I wouldn't disagree with anything you've said.

Casino is run by a "Feargal Quinn" - Superquinn used to sell Casino own brand stuff - maybe they still do.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupe_Casino

Carrefour & co buy on price as far as I can see. And very often they end up with poorer quality merchandise. My nearest hyper is a Carrefour. I used to buy strawberries in Carrefour - you get home and put them in the fridge and go to eat them a few hours later and chances are 60% of them are past edible. Rotten. Methinks they like buying job lots of near end of life food and they shove it on on a counter end for suckers to buy. Move to merchandise with a long shelf-life like wine and my local Carrefour has poor wine in my opinion - compared with Casino or an independent wine retailer. My suspicion is that the producers might be selling them the "poorer end of the crop" at a favourable price.

I travel 1 km more to a Casino and the chicken is excellent (compared with often hard to eat meat bought in Carrefour - probably from farms where the animals / poultry are mistreated and frightened at some stage during their life cycle).

And Carrefour treat their customers like animals. If a customer enters their store with a green bag, the security guys want to search them. And staple up your nice designer shopping bags from another shop to prevent one putting their merchandise in them. (The town in question has almost zero crime of any type). Basically Carrefour only want customers to shop at Carrefour, and will try to terrorise them if they come into their shop with merchandise from elsewhere in the shopping mall!

Meanwhile one could walk into a Casino with a shopping bag with "I AM THE NO 1 SHOPLIFTER IN THE WORLD" in bold letters and you would probably be greeted with a "Bonjour monsieur" at the entrance.

Carrefour in Europe's WalMart - only a lot less friendly. And their self-service checkout system stinks.

Overall the value and quality of life/merchandise is better in Casino.

The best food experience in France (in terms of supermarket type environment) is at http://www.galerieslafayette.com/fr/gourmet.htm at the http://www.cap3000.com/ location which is 5 minutes from Nice Airport. Direct flights on Aer Lingus from DUB and ORK to NCE. One can eat the Mediterranean food they sell sur la place with a glass of wine or whatever you like. The shopping mall is about 8 minutes walk from St Laurent du Var railway station which is on the suburban rail service (a 200 km long route served by double decker DART type trains) which run from the Italian frontier via Nice and Cannes to Marseille. 6 mins from Nice. The place is a lesson on how to sell good quality food. Worth a visit for anyone in the food business.

John_F

but how do you ensure a good crop? is it higher risk, plus if everyone done it then prices for this premium product would plummet and the market would be flooded, and if you get maybe €100 more per tonne per acre but getting two tonne less where is the benefit?? just putting the questions out there, im not standing up for chemical companies but is it not about how you handle the product? i.e. if he didn't open the tank and put his head in,, no offence

Hagar

probe wrote: »

Casino is run by a "Feargal Quinn" - Superquinn used to sell Casino own brand stuff - maybe they still do.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupe_Casino

Carrefour & co buy on price as far as I can see. And very often they end up with poorer quality merchandise. My nearest hyper is a Carrefour. I used to buy strawberries in Carrefour - you get home and put them in the fridge and go to eat them a few hours later and chances are 60% of them are past edible. Rotten. Methinks they like buying job lots of near end of life food and they shove it on on a counter end for suckers to buy. Move to merchandise with a long shelf-life like wine and my local Carrefour has poor wine in my opinion - compared with Casino or an independent wine retailer. My suspicion is that the producers might be selling them the "poorer end of the crop" at a favourable price.

I travel 1 km more to a Casino and the chicken is excellent (compared with often hard to eat meat bought in Carrefour - probably from farms where the animals / poultry are mistreated and frightened at some stage during their life cycle).

And Carrefour treat their customers like animals. If a customer enters their store with a green bag, the security guys want to search them. And staple up your nice designer shopping bags from another shop to prevent one putting their merchandise in them. (The town in question has almost zero crime of any type). Basically Carrefour only want customers to shop at Carrefour, and will try to terrorise them if they come into their shop with merchandise from elsewhere in the shopping mall!

Meanwhile one could walk into a Casino with a shopping bag with "I AM THE NO 1 SHOPLIFTER IN THE WORLD" in bold letters and you would probably be greeted with a "Bonjour monsieur" at the entrance.

Carrefour in Europe's WalMart - only a lot less friendly. And their self-service checkout system stinks.

Overall the value and quality of life/merchandise is better in Casino.

The best food experience in France (in terms of supermarket type environment) is at http://www.galerieslafayette.com/fr/gourmet.htm at the http://www.cap3000.com/ location which is 5 minutes from Nice Airport. Direct flights on Aer Lingus from DUB and ORK to NCE. One can eat the Mediterranean food they sell sur la place with a glass of wine or whatever you like. The shopping mall is about 8 minutes walk from St Laurent du Var railway station which is on the suburban rail service (a 200 km long route served by double decker DART type trains) which run from the Italian frontier via Nice and Cannes to Marseille. 6 mins from Nice. The place is a lesson on how to sell good quality food. Worth a visit for anyone in the food business.

Cap3000 is a soulless kip. It wouldn't bother going back there again. Carrefour doesn't sell poor quality produce. I don't know where you got that idea. They didn't get to be the size they are selling crap. The French consumer wouldn't take it. But if you think you know better than the pickiest consumers in Europe I won't argue with you. Their turnover for 2009 was a little over €92 billion so they must be doing something right. Here's a link to their site. Look at the drop down list on the bottom left "Other group sites" and see how widespread their operations are. They must be fooling a lot of people with their "poorer end of the crop" either that or you are the only one who knows anything about quality and service in the retail business. :rolleyes: