Samsung 23" 1080p HD Monitor with MPEG4 Digital TV Tuner - €206 delivered [Amazon]

Basq

TV Tuner obviously not much use here.. but €206 (down from a RRP is £310) for a 23" 1080P Samsung Monitor.

(and yes, I have checked and Amazon will deliver it here!)


Buy it @ Amazon

Product Features

* Dynamic Contrast 10000:1 for Vivid Colours
* Built-in Digital TV Tuner Picks Up Freeview
* Innovative Power Saving Facility Saves Energy and Money
* 2 x HDMI Sockets Connect to your Camcorder, Blu-Ray Player or Games Console
* Colour Effect Function Lets You Add Tints to Viewed Photos

Technical Details

Screen Size: 23" Widescreen
Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Brightness: 300 cd/㎡
Contrast Ratio: DC 10000:1 (1000:1) (Typ.)
Response Time: 5ms
Viewing Angle (Horizontal/Vertical): 160˚/160˚ (CR>10)
Colour supported: 16.7M
Video Signal Input: Analog RGB, DVI, HDMI, Component , TV (Digital TV / Analog TV)
Sync. Signal Input: Separate H/V, Composite
Connector: 15pin D-sub, DVI-D, 2HDMI, Component, DTV Tuner, Optical Out, Scart, CI Slot
Power Consumption: 55 watts
Standby Power (DPMS): <2 watts
Plug & Play: DDC2B
Multimedia Speakers: 3 watts x 2 Ch
Optional Accessories: Remote Controller, D-Sub Cable
Special Features: Built-in DTV (DVB-T) Tuner, Component, 2 HDMI, CI Slot, Full HD
USB powered hub option: No
Mac compatibility: Yes
Wall-Mount: VESA 100mm
Cabinet Colour: High Glossy Black
Product Dimension (With stand, WxHxD): 558 x 415 x 219mm
Product Dimension (Without Stand, WxHxD): 558 x 364 x 74mm
Shipment Dimension (WxHxD): 631 x 434 x 141mm
Product Weight: 6.1kg
Shipment Weight: 7.95kg
Stand Function: Tilt
Type: Simple

Zonda999

Decent value alright but i'm not sure i doubt if its digital tuner is mpeg4 and it would have to be to pick up our DTT here. I doubt it has one because it seems a fairly old product, says it was first listed in January 09. Still good value otherwise though, i'll do a bit of looking to see if its mpeg4 or not...

Good news, apparently it does have an mpeg 4 tuner after all, see this post from the terrestrial forum, its on that list

This one is well worth considering now alright..

Apogee

A number of french sites mention "Tuner TNT HD" which does suggest it is MPEG4 enabled e.g.
http://www.topachat.com/pages/detail2_cat_est_tv-home-cinema_puis_rubrique_est_wh_tvlcd_puis_ref_est_hf10017160.html

Basq

Zonda999 wrote: »

Good news, apparently it does have an mpeg 4 tuner after all, see this post from the terrestrial forum, its on that list

Ah.. that is good news!

I didn't think it had an MPEG4 tuner, so I'll append that to the title.

slave1

amazon prices seem to be a bit yo yo at the minute, this Sammy 24" was £175 ~ €194 last week but gone way up today, perhaps one to keep your eye on as I got it and it spiffy

Apogee

Before you amend the title, and having looked through more of the sites, some list it as TNT HD but others don't. It's a little inconsistent, so until someone finds the link to a Samsung manual confirming the specs, it's still a case of caveat emptor!

Dr. Nick

Excellent. Need 2! Ta.

AV Forums link:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-tvs/957190-samsung-sm2333hd.html

Basq

Apogee wrote: »

Before you amend the title, and having looked through more of the sites, some list it as TNT HD but others don't. It's a little inconsistent, so until someone finds the link to a Samsung manual confirming the specs, it's still a case of caveat emptor!

User Manual (4.3MB)

.. but I couldn't see if any specifics about the Tuner in it!

Zonda999

slave1 wrote: »

amazon prices seem to be a bit yo yo at the minute, this Sammy 24" was £175 ~ €194 last week but gone way up today, perhaps one to keep your eye on as I got it and it spiffy

To be fair, that one you've listed is'nt sold by amazon themselves so i doubt they'd ship over here anyway

Apogee wrote: »

Before you amend the title, and having looked through more of the sites, some list it as TNT HD but others don't. It's a little inconsistent, so until someone finds the link to a Samsung manual confirming the specs, it's still a case of caveat emptor!

Yea, there not so long ago i was looking at a different model samsung and there was some confusion over whether it did or not, and i gathered in the end that it ones manufactured after a certain date would have an mpeg4 tuner. That combined with the fact that this one is still on sale well over a year after it became available tells me that in all likelihood it does have an mpeg4 tuner

Basq

Zonda999 wrote: »

To be fair, that one you've listed is'nt sold by amazon themselves so i doubt they'd ship over here anyway

Quick tip at Amazon..

.. ALWAYS check under 'More Buying Choices'

slave1

To be fair, that one you've listed is'nt sold by amazon themselves so i doubt they'd ship over here anyway

Was sold by A last week as I bought one, hence A's yo yo on pricing and shipping

Zonda999

basquille wrote: »

Quick tip at Amazon..

.. ALWAYS check under 'More Buying Choices'

Thats also a pretty good deal i guess, now that its in the thread. If you're not going to be making any use of the mpeg4 tuner, that definitely the better buy

slave1

ah, I see, nice one Bas, easily missed
yeah, great monitor, only negative is its default factory setting is AV which makes the likes of font hard to view so you need to change it to PC
I ordered Sunday, received Tuesday

colferma

Sorry for the dumb question, but what's the difference between a monitor with a TV tuner and a TV? Would there be ports on both to plug into, say, an NTL TV connection?

Effluo

colferma wrote: »

Sorry for the dumb question, but what's the difference between a monitor with a TV tuner and a TV? Would there be ports on both to plug into, say, an NTL TV connection?

yes, there is no difference.

Maybe the viewing angles with some

ZeRoY

Thanks for this, just ordered one! Great bargain

For infos, those who dont care about the Tuner can get the 24inch for almost same price (£174.99) HERE

Soarer

I wish I was in the market for a telly!

P.S. I don't think that 24" one has speakers. Could be wrong though.

jayteecork

How come they're delivering this and not TVs in general?

Basq

jayteecork wrote: »

How come they're delivering this and not TVs in general?

The weight factor I reckon..

podgeandrodge

receives bad reviews on Amazon for the speakers. This ties in with my experience of Samsung Monitor speakers - same wattage as Samsung TV's (for same size screen) but crap quality/volume.

Paul007

Currently after a new LCD.

Could any tell me which would be the better set out of these and the one in the op?

Cheers

Samsung P2270HD
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-P2270HD-22-inch-Widescreen-1920x1080/dp/B002DPSKDO

LG M22WDP
http://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-M227WDP-inch-Widescreen-Freeview/dp/B001NEI7E8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1269277992&sr=8-1

slave1

I don't think that 24" one has speakers

It does not

Scruff

colferma wrote: »

Sorry for the dumb question, but what's the difference between a monitor with a TV tuner and a TV? Would there be ports on both to plug into, say, an NTL TV connection?

similarly confused. so what will the mpeg4 tuner decode? Will it do ntl digital directly out of the wall of will it need to take it from the ntl box? Will it do ntl\bog channel analogue?

i was thinking of getting this phillips 23" 1080p monitor (£160 +del) without mpeg4 tuner before this thread, still might...

Nollog

mpeg4 is the standard of HD television RTE will be using.
It's probably another 12 years off.

Zonda999

/\/ollog wrote: »

mpeg4 is the standard of HD television RTE will be using.
It's probably another 12 years off.

Not just HD but all digital terrestrial tv wil be mpeg4, and who knows, it may launch officially in the next year. There are unofficial tests being carried out all over the country at the moment though, have a look over on the terestrial forum, many boardsies are already using them for tv

And on the HD thing, once DTT is actually up and running, it would be relatively simple for RTE to show certain events in HD so just maybe, it'll be sooner than 12 years!

ZeRoY

/\/ollog wrote: »

mpeg4 is the standard of HD television RTE will be using.
It's probably another 12 years off.

Its on right now with 5 channels + EPG :P

CraigSmith

I have the first samsung tv, its pretty decent to be honest. Brilliant HD on it, the side sockets are really handy for cameras and headphones. Well worth it at this price, got mine for 300

ToadVine

Will this work as an external monitor for a MacBook laptop?

CraigSmith

yeah it should do, think it has a dvi port with the vga port on the back.

Nollog

I bought it last night.
Being sent on the 25th.

podgeandrodge

I posted a warning earlier on my experience with the sound on Samsung Syncmasters - basically crap - but it doesn't seem to have put anyone off here. Maybe people feel different about this model.

For info though - there are 11 reviews on Amazon on this model.

There were 3 "sort of" positive comments on sound:


1. "takes a while to get the sound right once set up its perfect"

2. "I dont see why people complain about the sound most tvs are like this and 90% people have some sort of external speakers anyway."

3. "Sound quality is good, although you do seem to have to have the volume set loud"


There are 6 negatives:


1. "Bad points- The speakers are the worst, I can honestly say, I have ever come across, they sound like a demented bee in a bean tin"


2. "Sound is poor, though so beware if this matters to you."

3. "am disappointed with the sound which sounds as if is is in an empty room - and lacks clarity."

4. "only gripe is audio level (poor speakers)"

5. "As to the Sound quality - well it's a Samsung - and as an owner of a Samsung TV and a previous owner of both Panasonic and Sony LCD TVs - I can say that Samsung do not 'do' sound very well compared to the more expensive brands. "


6. "On the negative side: The sound is very tinny. I was expecting this of course, having read other reviews. Adjusting the graphic equaliser doesn't help - any more bass and you get distortion or buzzing. These are tiny tiny speakers of course. Don't expect too much!"


My Syncmaster (now given away) reduced me to tears everytime I had it on at full volume to hear the news.

My current Samsung (LE19b450 with Irish DTT) has far better sound.

savemejebus

It's a monitor, the fact that it has speakers is a bonus but if they're crap it shouldn't really matter. Plus with optical out decent speakers can easily be hooked up..

podgeandrodge

savemejebus wrote: »

It's a monitor, the fact that it has speakers is a bonus but if they're crap it shouldn't really matter. Plus with optical out decent speakers can easily be hooked up..

not sure I get the point? If using it as a tele the speakers would matter - not everyone would want to hook up speakers - I would prefer to get a television with good inbuilt sound.

Zonda999

podgeandrodge wrote: »

not sure I get the point? If using it as a tele the speakers would matter - not everyone would want to hook up speakers - I would prefer to get a television with good inbuilt sound.

Then this one should definitely be avoided, the sounds even on samsungs tvs is poor so the clearly dont have a knack for it! That said, this defintely shouldnt be bought as a tv only, a 22B450 would do a much better job really, who needs 1080p in a tv at this size, as a monitor 1080p is nice at 23"

savemejebus

podgeandrodge wrote: »

not sure I get the point? If using it as a tele the speakers would matter - not everyone would want to hook up speakers - I would prefer to get a television with good inbuilt sound.

My point was this is first and foremost a monitor (even the post title says so), and great value at that, so for myself personally the sound isn't an issue.

Scruff

if yer worries about speaker quality the phillips monitor i posted has good reviews on ebuyer, speakers dont seem to be crap. no tv tuner though

jayteecork

So people who bought this monitor, can you pick up any TV channels?

Thanks.

jayteecork

Ok, had a £50 amazon voucher so ended up getting this for £135 delivered.

Can't go wrong at that price for a Full HD 23" with HDMI and speakers.

I already have the Dell full HD 23" that I got from a bargain alert here, and I'm going to set up a dual monitor configuaration for my desktop.

the Dell is an excellent monitor - it looks fkn fantastic but it has no HDMI and I had to buy a Dell soundbar seperately.

Nollog

Got it today.

The sounds isn't too bad.
Far from perfect, but I've heard worse.
I think the problem is the sound is coming out the back, many people have their TV's mounted or against a wall.

When you turn it on it looks for tv channels both analogue and digital it says, but I had no ariel plugged in.

jayteecork

/\/ollog wrote: »

When you turn it on it looks for tv channels both analogue and digital it says, but I had no ariel plugged in.

Did it pick up anything?

colferma

jayteecork wrote: »

Did it pick up anything?

Didn't pick up anything for me.

Zonda999

It should pick up something alright, even if the digital tuner is only mpeg2, it should at least pick up the mpeg4 EPG and radio station

savemejebus

/\/ollog wrote: »

but I had no ariel plugged in.

Zonda999 wrote: »

It should pick up something alright, even if the digital tuner is only mpeg2, it should at least pick up the mpeg4 EPG and radio station

Even with no aerial plugged in?

Zonda999

colferma wrote: »

Didn't pick up anything for me.

savemejebus wrote: »

Even with no aerial plugged in?

Ah but i was replying to colferma who never said they didnt have an aerial concected!

savemejebus

ah...:)

jayteecork

Mine arrived. Postman just left it on the doorstep, didn't ring the bell or anything.

Great picture. Tried it on my PC, 360, PS3, all look great.
Comes with remote control too and with HDMI this is as much a TV as it is a monitor.
I got it for £135 delivered so amazing price for a 23" FullHD