Behringer Djx750 effects

Mau5

Anyone know how to use the Behringer Djx750 effects properly?
Looked in the manuals and did what they said but the effects come out barely noticable on the main signal output. Should the filter effects not completely kill the frequencies then its turned up to max?
Any ideas?

copeyhagen

seeing as i sold you the mixer ill throw some advice out!

i was havin a fiddle around with the mixer before u came down and noticed they didnt seem to be workin then realised i had the "FX" button above the "source" rotor pressed in. when i turned it off the effects were workin perfect so check that. also i had the source set to input1, maybe it should be on master? im not sure.

but check the above first.

copeyhagen

the "fx" button above the effects source is the one im talkin about

Mau5

Yeah they dont work when you have the FX cue on anyway, but they are definately working, just not that loud on the master signal. They work fine in the headphones when being cue'd but theyre barely noticable when you turn them on the master signal, probably only something minor! ill try figure it out! cheers copeyhagen.

Zascar

Out of interest what is this mixer like? I had the DJX700 as my first mixer (I got it free) and although it gets a lot of slagging its not bad at all (bar the effects which are atrocious). I'd hope with this update they will make it a pretty dam good entry level mixer

copeyhagen

its a decent enough 4 channel mixer for the price like, the 700 is the biggest selling mixer of all time afaik.

with the effects, try playin one track through line 1 and switch the source to 1 and see if that helps.

i had it working there when u were in mine, i was usin the beat masher on traktor and effect no 3 on the 750 x.

have a fiddle with it

Mau5

Yeah id say im just missing something, ill figure it out!
Cheers

Mau5

Anyone else got any ideas?
Had a mess around with it there, dont think its broken anyways. The effects are working great through the headphones but they come out really quite/barely noticable over the main output.

electrogrimey

Zascar wrote: »

Out of interest what is this mixer like? I had the DJX700 as my first mixer (I got it free) and although it gets a lot of slagging its not bad at all (bar the effects which are atrocious). I'd hope with this update they will make it a pretty dam good entry level mixer

I've basically the same problem with effects, I think they're just terrible quality, most of them are barely noticeable, and the interface is really annoying.

But, as an entry level mixer for use with a laptop, I think it's perfect. EQs are decent, I don't notice much difference to the DJM 800 in clubs, and the faders and pots all feel nice and robust. I'd say I'd hate it if I wanted to use it with CDJs, and needed the effects though...

Can't think of any better 4 channel mixer for the price. There are a lot of 2 channel ones, not as many 4 channel though.

Mau5

I'm using it with cdjs, to be honest I dont really use effects anyway I was just curious to see how to work them, I think its a pretty decent mixer better than my Numark X6 I had before it anyway. 4 channels keep the option for better effects and stuff like that open, could always sort out traktor on my laptop and use it with the cdjs too.

copeyhagen

out of curiosity, try effect 3 on the mixer on a single channel. think its echo or beatmasher or something

Zascar

In fairness I have Traktor Pro and I don't use effects that much, and even there there are only 3 or 4 worth using at all.

hans aus dtschl

There's no way I'd ever advise someone to get those behringer mixers. The EQ's don't EQ, they switch. The faders don't fade, they cut. The crossfader doesn't work, it dips. The effects don't work, they just muddy the sound in different ways. The cues don't work: read the thread! The gains don't work, they switch.

I don't understand what's "a good entry level mixer" about that? That it LOOKS like a flashy mixer? Thought they were supposed to SOUND good, not LOOK good? Also, who has 4 sound sources and a mic on the go at once? What are you teaching someone about mixer functionality if they get one with bad eq's, channels, gains, bad sound etc?
Numark M4 would be my choice for "entry level mixer". Or gemini PS424, or Numark M2, or....Each will teach the person what the gains do, what the EQ's do, what the channel faders do...

One last thing on the subject: if you buy a two channel mixer (Ecler Hak ~£800 Rane TTM 56 ~€700) and you buy a four channel mixer with effects and it costs a quarter of the price, where does the money go? For an entry level mixer, look for the one with the LEAST bells and whistles.

hans aus dtschl

copeyhagen wrote: »

echo or beatmasher or something

that just about sums up the effects on the behringers lol

hans aus dtschl

Zascar wrote: »

In fairness I have Traktor Pro and I don't use effects that much, and even there there are only 3 or 4 worth using at all.

Let me guess: filters, LFO's, delays/echos, transposes, reverbs...did I forget anything?

Zascar

Beatmasher can be fun sometimes

mordeith

Mau5 wrote: »

Anyone else got any ideas?
Had a mess around with it there, dont think its broken anyways. The effects are working great through the headphones but they come out really quite/barely noticable over the main output.

I'd say you might have to have the source selector set to the the same channel as your crossfader (depending on what track you want the FX on). So say you want the FX on channel 2 then set crossfader A or B to channel 2 and the FX to source 2. Turn FX on, turn FX level up high and slap crossfader to channel 2. Worth a go anyway.

electrogrimey

hans aus dtschl wrote: »

There's no way I'd ever advise someone to get those behringer mixers. The EQ's don't EQ, they switch. The faders don't fade, they cut. The crossfader doesn't work, it dips. The effects don't work, they just muddy the sound in different ways. The cues don't work: read the thread! The gains don't work, they switch.

I don't understand what's "a good entry level mixer" about that? That it LOOKS like a flashy mixer? Thought they were supposed to SOUND good, not LOOK good? Also, who has 4 sound sources and a mic on the go at once? What are you teaching someone about mixer functionality if they get one with bad eq's, channels, gains, bad sound etc?
Numark M4 would be my choice for "entry level mixer". Or gemini PS424, or Numark M2, or....Each will teach the person what the gains do, what the EQ's do, what the channel faders do...

One last thing on the subject: if you buy a two channel mixer (Ecler Hak ~£800 Rane TTM 56 ~€700) and you buy a four channel mixer with effects and it costs a quarter of the price, where does the money go? For an entry level mixer, look for the one with the LEAST bells and whistles.

That's great, give out about the Behringer, and then list 2 two channel mixers and a 3 channel mixer to use instead. I'll keep my 4 channel thanks.

I, and I assume many people, only use my mixer for practicing, or recording mixes, which will be compressed to 192kbps anyway, so it'd be a waste of money blowing €1500 on some A&H kit. The DJX750 is fine for what I need at home, I use 800s whenever I play out.

hans aus dtschl

electrogrimey wrote: »

That's great, give out about the Behringer, and then list 2 two channel mixers and a 3 channel mixer to use instead. I'll keep my 4 channel thanks.

I, and I assume many people, only use my mixer for practicing, or recording mixes, which will be compressed to 192kbps anyway, so it'd be a waste of money blowing €1500 on some A&H kit. The DJX750 is fine for what I need at home, I use 800s whenever I play out.

Lol. Blowing €1500 on an A&H 92 would be almost as stupid as buying a DJM800. Luckily I got mine for €700...

What exactly do you use your four channels for?
My main mixer at the moment is an Ecler Smac Pro 30. 3 channels. It takes in 3 turntables, MPC, serato and Microphone. i'd have happily listed loads of ****ty 4 channel mixers for you, but that would be missing the WHOLE point, wouldn't it? As in the point I was making? No? The point that for an budget mixer you should look for one with as few features as possible, so the ones you get actually work?

I love the absolute pharce that is "don't give out about the behringer cos you have a better mixer yourself, it's just like a pioneer, don't you know".


Enjoy not knowing the difference between the pioneer's EQ's and the Behringer's though. Lol

copeyhagen

i found the eq's on the behringer fine, and for a 4 channel budget mixer its perfect for what people need it for

hans aus dtschl

Lol.

I give up. If people think the EQ's work on the behringer mixer, then it's pointless even discussing whether it's suitable for beginners.

Why would anyone even bother buying a more expensive mixer? They must be mad...

electrogrimey

hans aus dtschl wrote: »

What exactly do you use your four channels for?
My main mixer at the moment is an Ecler Smac Pro 30. 3 channels. It takes in 3 turntables, MPC, serato and Microphone. i'd have happily listed loads of ****ty 4 channel mixers for you, but that would be missing the WHOLE point, wouldn't it? As in the point I was making? No? The point that for an budget mixer you should look for one with as few features as possible, so the ones you get actually work?

I love the absolute pharce that is "don't give out about the behringer cos you have a better mixer yourself, it's just like a pioneer, don't you know".


Enjoy not knowing the difference between the pioneer's EQ's and the Behringer's though. Lol

I need four channels because I use four channels. One of my projects involves layering lots of tracks, so I need the 4 channels.

hans aus dtschl wrote: »

Lol. Blowing €1500 on an A&H 92 would be almost as stupid as buying a DJM800. Luckily I got mine for €700...

Lol. Lol. So your opinion is that Behringer are ****, Pioneer are ****, and A&H are ****. Helpful... Lol.
I do know the difference between the DJX750 and the DJM800. The formers effects, sound quality, and EQs are all weak. However, that isn't a huge problem for me. If you read my post, I wouldn't have to explain this again.

I use my mixer with small bedroom speakers, for practicing. I'm not going to notice the difference a good quality mixer will make in that environment. I also use it for mixes, which, because of soundcloud, I have to compress to low quality, so a good quality mixer won't help with that either...

Luckily, the one time I need a good mixer, in clubs, they helpfully already have one.

If you do a search, you'll realise that when I was buying a mixer, I started a thread asking for suggestions of a 4 channel mixer with no effects, only EQs and faders. There aren't a huge selection. The 750 is one of the most popular entry level mixers, and it came recommended, and I feel no need to upgrade it, for what I use it for.

mordeith

hans aus dtschl wrote: »

Lol.
I give up. If people think the EQ's work on the behringer mixer, then it's pointless even discussing whether it's suitable for beginners.

What do you mean? Are you saying that turning the EQ knobs on a Behringer is a pointless excercise? I have a Behringer mixer and only use it at home.
When I turn the low eq 'low freq goes up, low freq goes down'
When I turn the mid eq 'mid freq goes up, mid freq goes down'
When I turn the high eq . . .well you get the idea

Zascar

It's more complicated than that. Changing an EQ is kinda like a complicated algorithm that alters the sound of the signal. Some mixers do it better than others and the better they are at it, the nicer it sounds and the nicer it is to mix on them

hans aus dtschl

electrogrimey wrote: »

I need four channels because I use four channels. One of my projects involves layering lots of tracks, so I need the 4 channels.



Lol. Lol. So your opinion is that Behringer are ****, Pioneer are ****, and A&H are ****. Helpful... Lol.
I do know the difference between the DJX750 and the DJM800. The formers effects, sound quality, and EQs are all weak. However, that isn't a huge problem for me. If you read my post, I wouldn't have to explain this again.

I use my mixer with small bedroom speakers, for practicing. I'm not going to notice the difference a good quality mixer will make in that environment. I also use it for mixes, which, because of soundcloud, I have to compress to low quality, so a good quality mixer won't help with that either...

Luckily, the one time I need a good mixer, in clubs, they helpfully already have one.

If you do a search, you'll realise that when I was buying a mixer, I started a thread asking for suggestions of a 4 channel mixer with no effects, only EQs and faders. There aren't a huge selection. The 750 is one of the most popular entry level mixers, and it came recommended, and I feel no need to upgrade it, for what I use it for.

I had a reply written to you but board timed out: put simply: A&H and Pioneer are good quality. My like or dislike for them is a personal preference. I think both are overpriced due to being "industry standard" but if you get either cheaply, you're on a winner.

As for you buying a mixer I was wondering why the vestax vmc004 and others wouldn't suit your needs. VMC004 is more expensive now cos they're on a new rev (XLU) but the last rev was around €200 or so. Not suitable? Too expensive?

Finally was saying I dislike that this is turning into a "you're too opinionated" spat so I'm gonna stop giving my opinion now (you guys know what it is), but I'll happily reply to you guys.

hans aus dtschl

Zascar wrote: »

It's more complicated than that. Changing an EQ is kinda like a complicated algorithm that alters the sound of the signal. Some mixers do it better than others and the better they are at it, the nicer it sounds and the nicer it is to mix on them

Also with the type of fading being done: linear, logarithmic, the cut frequencies, the attenuation level. If your EQ's just kill a frequency band when rotated below a certain point they're limited in use.

You shouldn't need to just be thinking of "cutting this" or "cutting that", you should be able to think of "dipping this" and "dipping that". Not just a tool to make mixes sound interesting, but to clean up badly pressed/recorded records, bring parts of the song through the mix better (muddly vocals?), get more out of the soundsystem etc etc etc.

But yes, absolutely, good eq's change how the sound comes through completely.

IN MY OPINION: the low end Numarks have great EQ's.

electrogrimey

hans aus dtschl wrote: »

I had a reply written to you but board timed out: put simply: A&H and Pioneer are good quality. My like or dislike for them is a personal preference. I think both are overpriced due to being "industry standard" but if you get either cheaply, you're on a winner.

As for you buying a mixer I was wondering why the vestax vmc004 and others wouldn't suit your needs. VMC004 is more expensive now cos they're on a new rev (XLU) but the last rev was around €200 or so. Not suitable? Too expensive?

Finally was saying I dislike that this is turning into a "you're too opinionated" spat so I'm gonna stop giving my opinion now (you guys know what it is), but I'll happily reply to you guys.

If someone had recommended a vcm004 at the time I would have looked into it, but most people were suggesting 2 and 3 channel mixers, which are more common in that price range. In the end I picked up the 750 for €100 off a mate, so I couldn't really say no, for that price, it was a good deal. If I do come into money I will upgrade to something better though.

Zascar

Hans in fairness the guy is looking for a basic cheap 4 channel mixer - there is very little to chose from within his budget. Most others are €500+ and I'm guessing he just could not justify spending so much at the time. Value wise this is a lot of mixer for the money. it's not going to be installed in a club - he's not putting it through a big system, and there won't be an educated crowd criticising the sound quality - its just for bedroom practice use to use 4 decks in total. I had the DJX700 and although it was by no means amazing or of very high quality, it did the job fine for what i wanted it to do. I think they cost about 150 quid or something, and the DJM800 was out about the same time. Was the Pioneer better? Undoubtedly yes - but was it Ten Times Better for what I wanted to use it for? Not a chance...

I always started on crap gear and progressed from there. The one thing I would say about using low quality gear is you kinda have to work and try harder to make it sound good - you can hear the mistakes etc easier so you have to work harder to make your mixes and eqing tight to get a good mix etc. This is a good thing for a beginner I think. If you are using primo equipment its a lot easier to get it all right and get away with little mistakes. Sometimes that's not a good thing in the long run.

Mau5

Sorted the effects, they just worked one day!
Could have been something to do with the mains power cable as I wasnt using the original one because I didnt have an adaptor it but Im using it now and they seem to be working better.

And to add to that little rant, Im finding the mixer very good to be honest.
Gives me alot more to work with with the 4 channels. I'd recommend it to anyone looking for a relatively cheap mixer!

copeyhagen

ah delighted its sorted, makin me look like a del boy on here

Eazy

Well i just got the DJX750 Behringer mixer and I feel the same in regaurds to the effects and tools it has. Although all ive been able to do at this stage is listen to it threw headphones and using my media gigabeat by Toshiba Player. as i don't have Powered monetors yet so i havn't been able to use the master channel. I have a fair idea of what this is capable of from watching DJ tutor on you tube use it and man he works that thing like wow. Ive seen other Djs there use it as well and everyone ive seen use it can get exactly what im looking for out of it. Poblem is How? I downloaded software that cam with the Behringer UCA222 interfacer but that thing dose not work with the mixer as i believe lack of powered monators am i right? I can here music thew the head phones if i go the the phones conected to the interface but not the phones on the mixer.
I think behringer's biggest problem is lack of instructions, This is not an entery mixer for amatures this is for the next step up i believe. They expect looking at the instructions that you have already been mixing and know what the hell is going on. Ok i understood the Phono thing flicking over to line for not using a vinal deck, wach out here the instruction is not that clear to say push the button in on the back of the mixer to flick the signal, what you do read on the instructions is that it is there but not telling what in or out means in relation to signal, Dont think for a minute that just because you have flick'd the line across on the face of it that the signal has changed from phono, the FX is another lacking part in the instruction is seems to be to an amature at least a situation of hit and miss (not good) for those realy wanting to have controll over there vibes.
No explanation of the FX buttons workings or at least lack of.
OK i know that depressing the effects sellector knob and holding it down chooses that effect, but when and how to use the button above it is ?able and i guess that the bit round button is when you want the effect to hit the mix. Can the effects be listened to on there own? if so how is this done? its another detail they missed. They spent a lot of effort boasting about these features and no information to how they work. I was under the impression i could select an effect then take it to a channel on its own say chanel 3 then cue it there till ready to use with the music buy moving in assinging it to say B side set on channel 3 of the cross fader and having music on say channel 2 and assigned to A at the fader so moving across from A to B the dropping down a little on the channel fader of 2 and raising the channel fader of one in some sort of sequence would mix the FX siginal. Well to a layman that would make scence anyway and be a very practical way to do this. So my Question here is am i thinking right or is there something eles ive missed. Its my belief that the master is for the out signal to the powered monators (which i dont have yet) so not mixing done here. found that i have difficalty trying to find the two signals of the mix and what would be playing if i had the master signal going out.
Is it imposable to operate this thing without the master signal out just for puroses of home mixing and just listening thew head phones so i don't end up in the dog house for the night? Theres a sticker you get with an ear drawn on it will it help if i stick this on my head and list threw it?. im running out of ideas But i do know the Full Qualified DJs can make these things rock. Its got to come down to software and monators i reckon Hmmm.

electrogrimey

Eh...What?

I have the same mixer, and apart from remembering what effects equal what number it's a pretty simple mixer...

LaughOrDie

Anyone tried out the DDM4000?

hans aus dtschl

I was using a DDM4000 yesterday in fact!

I probably shouldnt bother commenting really as I've made my opinions clear, but again, the same issues with pots, bleed, cheap effects, noise, etc but this time with coloured buttons everywhere and a lovely "bass" button over on the right that makes everything muddy. The line faders on this model feel more solid,and seem to actually fade though.

So, to recap, rotary pots have three or four levels of volume: No smooth rolling down of a freq or gain, you're going to be switching it down. CH1 appears across CH2, CH3 and CH4 and all across the headphone cue as standard: bleed is rife. Effects: its obvious what the story is. Noise: again obvious. VU-meter is not really legible. The peak-hold is very short, and they've duplicated pioneer's "7 red lights above 0".


Bedroom mixer territory with this one, more than previous models: seems more solid. She didnt capitulate, when used on a big rig, and most importantly of all: the line faders actually worked.
But the bass button, on the right, I havn't actually come to terms with at all.

LaughOrDie

I was thinkin of gettin one of the begringers, I've heard mixed opinions about Behringer in general. Some say don't go near them and others have said they're a good mixer for the money. This thread is a perfect example of the mixed opinions on it.

Was really hoping you'd say the ddm4000 was a big improvement on the djx750, that would make the decision easier. I suppose a good thing about the ddm4000 is the MIDI function, you could always use the EQ's on Traktor, but then why not just get a USB controller if that's the case.

To be honest I'll probably end up getting the DJX750 and make up my mind for myself. The thing about it is for the money it costs you can't really expect too much anyway.

You were saying that you like the EQ's on the low end Numarks, any one in particular?

hans aus dtschl

The line faders on the 4000 fade! That in itself makes it better than the 750, as far as I'm concerned.

These mixers: they'll teach you some basics at home. They're not for use in a high-end system. Thats about all there is to it. If you're recording sets or using it for production or in a club, you'll have problems. For "home practice" go for it and plan to upgrade maybe in 12 to 36 months, and you'll be laughing.

The low end numarks: I've had a good few of these, and if they say the eq's "cut" or "kill" the frequency, its usually an ok EQ!