Want to Buy Jeep but Confused

sheafield

Hi All,
In the market for a jeep to do general farm work, runs to the co op and mart etc. Not a lot of money to spend, about 1000 to 2000 euro. Any advise on what to go for and what to avoid. Looking at pajeros (1994) maybe some troopers or a land rover discovery! heard conflicting reports on all. It needs to be doe tested and just start when i need it! Some great looking valve in discoverys but am i missing something!
Thanks in advance:)

101sean

Discoverys that price and age could have major rust issues especially with the rear floor and inner wings and worn out suspension bushes etc. On the other hand you could find a gem, they are around.

One of the Jap experts will be along shortly and tell you what ones of them to avoid, mainly seems to be particular engines.

bitemybanger

Hi there, Im new to the jeep world too but i did my research on most models before i bought. i went for the 2.8 pajero.
The Trooper seems to always need somthing and lacks the reliability factor you would be looking for and when somthing does go its never a quick fix and you will have to dig deep
The Disco would be the best off-roader of the three and a very common farm vehicle but does suffer some bads that lads here might be able to tell you more about but i didnt go for a Disco because too many people who owned Discos said they would never buy another one.
The Pajero 2.8 and the 2.5 seem to be different like black and white. Some good reading HERE

Mycroft H

sheafield wrote: »

Hi All,
In the market for a jeep to do general farm work, runs to the co op and mart etc. Not a lot of money to spend, about 1000 to 2000 euro. Any advise on what to go for and what to avoid. Looking at pajeros (1994) maybe some troopers or a land rover discovery! heard conflicting reports on all. It needs to be doe tested and just start when i need it! Some great looking valve in discoverys but am i missing something!
Thanks in advance:)

The older troopers 1992-1993ish rust horribly and id say almost all of them have had a tough life by this stage....

Gut instinct would be Pajero though as sean said a nice disco wouldnt be too hard to come across if you look hard enough

JohnBoy

buy a clean irish disco with no sunroofs and it should be fairly rot free. then redo the entire undercarriage.

new everything (shocks, springs, bushes, discs, pads) should cost around €500 delivered from somewhere like paddocks. parts are insanely cheap for them.


At the bottom of the market everything's a gamble, but at least with a disco parts are cheap.


This looks promising

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1189071

MrFoxman360

Something like this would suit you perfect

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1194545

Cheap, reliable and comfortable work horse...

Really is no beating the Japanese stuff when looking at older jeeps, they stand the test of time extremely well.

Cmar-Ireland

If it's to be a workhorse why not look at a pick-up instead? Very handy, you can just throw whatever you want in the tub.

Like these,

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/commercials/1167339

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1123178

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1197391

Would be my choice for a work / farm 4x4

broro22

imo avoid 2.5 pajeros prone to over heating and cracking cylinder heads 2.4 landcruisers and hiluxs suffer the same problems. land rover parts are cheap but be prepared to buy lots of them:rolleyes:. 2.8 pajero or 3.0 landcruiser are really your best options but may be hard to get for that budget. 3.1 troopers are also a good option but are in demand with farmers and clean ones hard to find. you might consider looking for a passenger jap import to convert if you dont mind automatic transmission as they would have had an easier life. if you could stretch the budget to 5k there is great value to be had out there

elius

If been lucky to have the use of both.
I play (off-Road) land rovers and used a hi-lux in work (farming) although it was a 03 d4d.(i think)

The discovery is a good truck in the 3yrs of ownership of mine i replaced the tentioner pulley once and the power steering pump once and a clutch. I made additional upgrade's like shocks springs and bushings. Off road it was very good it had a good set of mud tyres and handle rutted and wet grass very very well. pulling out the bosses hi-lux on more than one occasion. Parts are cheap and you wont need that money if you keep on top of maintenance she will do you a life time.

The hi-lux however was a differant story. In 3 yrs of ownership he replaced the clutch twice, Gearbox once alternator once and breaks every 3 months tyre where was nothing short of a sham. Ride was shocking due to the the dated leave springs set up which made it horrible to drive in wet conditions and when it was wet it was tail happy. There also pretty shocking off road particularly in wet grass. And eventually it ended upside down against a tree deemed writen off needless to say another one wasnt purchased. I cant comment on the older models.

A nissan patrol is also a good work horse and could be got very right.

sheafield

thanks so much for the info guys. Have seen already all the above links on done deal over past few weeks and these along with your advise is pushing me towards a lwb pajero 2.8td. Don't fancy the repair work on a discovery and 2.5 diesels in pajero seem a bad idea too! Just one small question, most of these are automatic on done deal. Is auto a wise choice when pulling a trailer or does it not make any difference?

elius

sheafield wrote: »

thanks so much for the info guys. Have seen already all the above links on done deal over past few weeks and these along with your advise is pushing me towards a lwb pajero 2.8td. Don't fancy the repair work on a discovery and 2.5 diesels in pajero seem a bad idea too! Just one small question, most of these are automatic on done deal. Is auto a wise choice when pulling a trailer or does it not make any difference?

Personally i would go for a manual if your going to be towing a trailer. ive pulled a trailer with an automatic and they ant great. Your cant use the gears to slow you down etc etc.

argosy2006

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Opel/Frontera/2.8TDI-S/201002196563996/advert?channel=CARS

they would suprize you,, one they have never been worked hard,and running gear is great, isuzu based

MrFoxman360

sheafield wrote: »

Don't fancy the repair work on a discovery and 2.5 diesels in pajero seem a bad idea too!

Don't be taken in by all that 2.5 rubbish, I drove one for years and honestly was the very best jeep I ever owned... (and I have a Toyota Amazon now)...I do acknowledge that 2.5s sometimes give head trouble,... (never a bother with mine) but the 2.8 ain't no angel either..... ask any mecahnic which he (or she) prefers to work on 2.5 or 2.8.:rolleyes:.... know all about it

They are a reliable jeep, with good tourque for towing and are quite economical.... maybe a little on the slow side... but what you expect

However I dont reccommend anything Landrover...... but that's a personal opinion and yes, a manual is better for towing.... unless you got huge power under your foot!

by the way LWB is the best buy... in my opinion anyway:rolleyes: better at everything

hiluxman

id imagine people might take this as slightly biased. for a start anything with the name land rover attached is a waste of time. japanese technology is the way to go. toyota rules hands down. landcruiser/hilux after that its mr.bishi, pajero/L200 (the L200 is a bad design using good components), nissan after that. Patrol is a legend, Terano is no good, navara is ok but unrefined. THe 3.1 trooper, how could you go wrong, as for the 3.0, say no more, take ur pick outa that lot

Slidey

My personal opinion on this.

Buy a jeep for circa 2k and you will only be taking on someone elses problems. It is just not enough money to buy anything worth while.

Unless you can do your own work, the chances you will end up forking out big coin on repairs.

elius

Slidey wrote: »

My personal opinion on this.

Buy a jeep for circa 2k and you will only be taking on someone elses problems. It is just not enough money to buy anything worth while.

Unless you can do your own work, the chances you will end up forking out big coin on repairs.

Agreed and when they do go wrong. With such a massive after market amount of parts in the uk and even in ireland. The discovery has to be givin some chance.
How about this not the most comfortable but buy god with a good set of mud tyres they go everywhere
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1213919

JohnBoy

Slidey wrote: »

My personal opinion on this.

Buy a jeep for circa 2k and you will only be taking on someone elses problems. It is just not enough money to buy anything worth while.

Unless you can do your own work, the chances you will end up forking out big coin on repairs.

agree 100%

hence my discovery suggestion. at least parts are dirt cheap.

A recon gearbox for a disco costs around what a set of belts and pullies cost for my frontera last year.

http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/category_5.html

a recon engine for 2k sterling

http://turner-engineering.co.uk/html/strippedengines.html

the parts are just insanely cheap.

a 2 grand jeep is always a big gamble. buy a jap one and it'll liely be grand, but if it goes wrong it'll cost big to put right. a disco will break and cost pennies to fix



you pays your money and takes your choices

101sean

Very well put, this end of the market is a bit of a gamble!

mossfort

MrFoxman360 wrote: »

Something like this would suit you perfect

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1194545

Cheap, reliable and comfortable work horse...

Really is no beating the Japanese stuff when looking at older jeeps, they stand the test of time extremely well.

i wonder whos jeep that is?
i wouldnt be inclined to buy a land rover and if you take a look around any livestock mart you wont see many of them.
there are plenty of old 2.5 and 2.8 pajeros with fairly low mileage that will do the job without giving too much trouble as long as they are regularly serviced and they are far better built than the newer jeeps that are to be got.

E39MSport

Stay away from the 2.5 Why take the risk when the 2.8 is known to be more reliable. It also has a timing chain rather than belt afaik.
See pocuk.co.uk for tips on making a paj purchase.

Bolo Young

Hi,
small jeep 4U
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coolmoose

Bolo Young wrote: »

Hi,
small jeep 4U
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hmmm...1st post...yours perchance? :P

Slidey

Bolo Young wrote: »

Hi,
small jeep 4U
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I have snipped your link as I believe this to be your own jeep.

draycottgirlz

broro22 wrote: »

imo avoid 2.5 pajeros prone to over heating and cracking cylinder heads 2.4 landcruisers and hiluxs suffer the same problems. land rover parts are cheap but be prepared to buy lots of them:rolleyes:. 2.8 pajero or 3.0 landcruiser are really your best options but may be hard to get for that budget. 3.1 troopers are also a good option but are in demand with farmers and clean ones hard to find. you might consider looking for a passenger jap import to convert if you dont mind automatic transmission as they would have had an easier life. if you could stretch the budget to 5k there is great value to be had out there

good advice

MrFoxman360

mossfort wrote: »

i wonder whos jeep that is?
i wouldnt be inclined to buy a land rover and if you take a look around any livestock mart you wont see many of them.
there are plenty of old 2.5 and 2.8 pajeros with fairly low mileage that will do the job without giving too much trouble as long as they are regularly serviced and they are far better built than the newer jeeps that are to be got.

Unfortunatley that one is sold, was a good one too, I knew it well :rolleyes:

Plenty of other good ones around though if the OP hasn't purchased

sheafield

Thanks for all the help, a little clearer now. Think i'll go for a LWB 93/94 2.8td pajero and hope not to pay more than 1500. Just got to get cash sorted in next few weeks and then its shopping!!

motorman

A fart as I understand a modified 3.0 trooper is a pretty reliable machine and cheap. As long as the injectors have been done etc.

Slidey

motorman wrote: »

A fart as I understand a modified 3.0 trooper is a pretty reliable machine and cheap. As long as the injectors have been done etc.

No no no no NOOOOOOO!

A 3.0l trooper is good for one thing only. That is trading it in against a new Dmax and getting 7k off the list price.

PaddyBloggit

May interest you:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1160848

(not mine ... only came across it)

Bitten & Hisses

Slidey wrote: »

A 3.0l trooper is good for one thing only.

Well, good for two things maybe:
http://www.mbs4x4.co.uk/engine.php

I'm sorry I didn't do this when my Trooper expired.