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Sean Fitzpatrick Arrested

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭RoadKillTs


    In before Magnus!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭ilovelamp2000


    hehe


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭MaybeLogic


    May he rot in his cell, before he is questioned and then released without charge, later on today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    I would say if they have anything on him they will make an example of him. The government, police and FR are too wary of public opinion to let him get away with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Hopefully they'll make him share a cell with Patrick Fitzsean.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    rugby forum ---->


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Paddy power could give you a million to 1 for seany to go to jail. It just doesn't happen in this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭McTigs


    Paddy power could give you a million to 1 for seany to go to jail. It just doesn't happen in this country.
    I dunno, Lenihan appears to be pretty pissed off with him.

    Probably stems from fitzpatricks snubbing of him and the authorities in general ever since the banking crises kicked off. He's been a right arrogant prick about the whole thing.... i'm pretty sure the waited till they had gathered enough substantial evidence before knocking on the door.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,240 ✭✭✭bullpost


    Thing is - did he break the law? With regulation so lax during that period it may be difficult to convict him. On the other hand he should be accountable for his current debts and must be pursued at a time when people are losing their homes because of his policies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭paddydriver


    Won't be happy until we see him being led out of the house with the cuffs on - in true US style;)

    Then we know that they mean business.

    Likely what we will see is him joking with the Guard's holding him.

    How is the handicap Sean? - Ah sure it's great Guard..


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    rugby forum ---->

    Huh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    bullpost wrote: »
    Thing is - did he break the law? With regulation so lax during that period it may be difficult to convict him. On the other hand he should be accountable for his current debts and must be pursued at a time when people are losing their homes because of his policies.

    Anglo aren't in the mortgage business so his policies wouldn't have affected anyone that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Gyalist




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Lux23 wrote: »
    Anglo aren't in the mortgage business so his policies wouldn't have affected anyone that way.
    Indirectly you could argue that Anglo's less than ethical loan policies provided a platform for developers to milk it in terms of property, leading to unrealistic house prices and therefore overstretched mortgages.

    Of course, Anglo didn't provide those overstretched mortgages...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Huh?

    I didn't realise we had Americans on this forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Good.

    That is all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭kmick


    According to some wag I talked to this morning it is alleged Anglo are about to announce a 12bn loss - the largest loss in corporate Irish history. This will have to be paid out of our taxes. Also it is alleged he has been quietly disposing of all his assets to family in the last few months to avoid the state seizing them.

    The thought of him sitting in a cell without shoe laces goes a tiny way towards the revenge Cowen will need to get him with for the Irish public to be sated.

    Hopefully this 12bn loss is enought to topple FF.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭ilovelamp2000


    kmick wrote: »
    According to some wag I talked to this morning it is alleged Anglo are about to announce a 12bn loss - the largest loss in corporate Irish history. This will have to be paid out of our taxes. Also it is alleged he has been quietly disposing of all his assets to family in the last few months to avoid the state seizing them.

    The thought of him sitting in a cell without shoe laces goes a tiny way towards the revenge Cowen will need to get him with for the Irish public to be sated.

    Hopefully this 12bn loss is enought to topple FF.

    Either I'm having deja vu or that 12 billion loss was mentioned weeks ago already


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    kmick wrote: »
    Hopefully this 12bn loss is enought to topple FF.
    Not a chance, the saps on both sides will vote the same way they always did.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 462 ✭✭SlabMurphy


    About time. I remember him on Primetime showing an interview with him a few years ago and bragging about taking on the main banks etc and with a conceited smile saying " It's not about money, it's a game ". Hope he enjoys his little ' game ' ending in a prison cell hopefully.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Who?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    SlabMurphy wrote: »
    About time. I remember him on Primetime showing an interview with him a few years ago and bragging about taking on the main banks etc and with a conceited smile saying " It's not about money, it's a game ". Hope he enjoys his little ' game ' ending in a prison cell hopefully.

    .... and like has been alluded to earlier he should be getting his "get out of jail free" card any time now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭hamsterboy


    Dunno where the image tag helper is gone but.............
    From his Wiki page
    ScreenShot005.jpg

    HB


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Gyalist wrote: »
    testicle wrote: »

    Not the same guy folks... but sure... why not... move it over to rugby... then lets have them see it passed over to an economy forum...
    bonerm wrote: »
    I didn't realise we had Americans on this forum.

    I'm sure that Dragon guy is American...

    ...I'm not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 timelessone


    From RTE Website:

    ''On 18 March 2010, Gardai arrested Sean Fitzpartick at his residence in Greystones, Co. Wicklow. After a ten minute gunfight, which saw Fitzpatrick clamber to the roof of his family home shouting "Made it Ma, top of the world!", Garda negotiators enticed him down by announcing that "a three ball needs a fourth on the first tee at Druids Glen". Gardai threatening to "Go Corrib" finally convinced FitzPatrick to co-operate. FitzPatrick was lead away to a safe house in the K Club for intense interrogation.''


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 milnerrm


    ha...good one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭jclare56


    well its about time - now he is where he belongs, with all the other criminals!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭Fozzie Bear


    Christ how long did that take exactly? Months? Years? to just arrest and charge him. He has had all that time to dispose of assets, prepare his defense, play golf and generally swan about the place while the rest of us struggle to get by and survive from day to day.

    Bernie Madoff was reported on December 10th 2008, arrested on December 11th by the FBI, got the "perp walk" in hand cuffs in front of the media and has been in jail since last June and will spend the rest of his days there rotting. Sentence was 150 years I think???

    How long will this case drag on thorugh the courts only for Fitzpatrick to get off on a technicality or get a few years in some open jail and get out in time to enjoy his ill gotten gains and retire to some tropical paradise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,519 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones



    How long will this case drag on thorugh the courts only for Fitzpatrick to get off on a technicality or get a few years in some open jail and get out in time to enjoy his ill gotten gains and retire to some tropical paradise.

    [solicitor]How can poor Mr. Sean FitzPatrick get a fair trial in this country when he's been demonised by the Media.[/solicitor]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Christ how long did that take exactly? Months? Years? to just arrest and charge him.

    It's usually a bad idea to just arrest someone for the hell of it.
    Due process, building a case and all that takes ti... ahh who the fuck am i kidding, you don't care.

    Rabble rabble rabble, burn the witch!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭podgemonster


    Would totally turn a blind eye if Sean Fitzpatrick 'accidently' fell down the stairs of the police station and landed awkwardly on some batons.
    Karma comes back around like!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭zootroid


    It's usually a bad idea to just arrest someone for the hell of it.
    Due process, building a case and all that takes ti... ahh who the fuck am i kidding, you don't care.

    Rabble rabble rabble, burn the witch!

    That's fair enough, but everyone is aware of the details, the dodgy transfers between Anglo and Irish Life, the golden circle loans to prop up the share price, and his own loans that weren't disclosed. If everyone is aware of this, why is it taking so long to build a case?


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So is he paying back that massive loan he took out? If he is, did he do anything else?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    zootroid wrote: »
    That's fair enough, but everyone is aware of the details, the dodgy transfers between Anglo and Irish Life, the golden circle loans to prop up the share price, and his own loans that weren't disclosed. If everyone is aware of this, why is it taking so long to build a case?

    Everybody is aware of sweet fuck all.

    Just because people think they know what was happening doesn't mean that they do or that there has been enough actual evidence to get a conviction for ages and people were just...waiting for some reason.


    If they tore in with what the public thinks is the sum of the case then it would have thrown out and we'd have people bitching about how he "got off an technicality", which is a myth in of itself, but that's for another day.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 Jules1977


    Well it is about time ! I am delighted ! :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    So is he paying back that massive loan he took out? If he is, did he do anything else?
    Probably. You can't just arrest someone to take them in for questioning...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    zootroid wrote: »
    That's fair enough, but everyone is aware of the details, the dodgy transfers between Anglo and Irish Life, the golden circle loans to prop up the share price, and his own loans that weren't disclosed. If everyone is aware of this, why is it taking so long to build a case?

    whivch part of that is illegal? do you know? i dont i imagine that the only part of what you listed that might be illegal is the loans to prop up share prices or the loans he took o buy his own shares. i have a feeling that he has been arrested and is being questioned for something we havnt heard about yet

    i hope he does go to jail but mentioning him in the same sentence as bernie madoff is stupid


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 Jules1977


    What! He had it coming to him so he did. I mean he is the reason why the country is in the state its in but lets not get into a long debate about that. :)Julie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭rolion


    I bet my wages that he won't feel nothing and he will walk free with some silly punishment ! ! Where do we think those loans went !? To one like me ? I'm No one/No Name in the high,posh society ! ! I'm struggling to pay my damn bills,other are still enjoying high style on plastic money / carton-paper moneys...

    He will be accused,he will not talk,the big boys will cover him and ... happy days !'cause if he talks,the old boys network will be heavily hit !

    It happened in the past,is happening and it will happen in the future !
    (I hope until 2012)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    Jules1977 wrote: »
    What! He had it coming to him so he did. I mean he is the reason why the country is in the state its in but lets not get into a long debate about that. :)Julie

    Eh no he's not. He has most almost certainly broken the law, and deserves to be punished, but his contribution to the current state of the economy is pretty insignificant. There are plenty of other groups who played far more important roles in ruining the country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    I know this is probably a silly question but what exactly is he being charged with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭Muckie


    He'll probably get away with it, be back in the "old boys club"
    laughing about it and drinking brandy's. What What chaps!
    Millions, billions its all up in the sky, people of he's ilk don't
    care.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 Jules1977


    Very good! Ya have it all in one! That is so true. These guys should have got jail like other countries but yep he will say nothing and be sent on his way probably. But I reckon he transferrred funds etc into his wifes name though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭MikeC101


    zootroid wrote: »
    That's fair enough, but everyone is aware of the details, the dodgy transfers between Anglo and Irish Life, the golden circle loans to prop up the share price, and his own loans that weren't disclosed. If everyone is aware of this, why is it taking so long to build a case?

    Because cases like this are complicated, and there's lots of technicalities a case could hinge on. Add to that the fact that he's going to have the best legal team money can buy, and they'll pick holes in anything that's not exactly by the book.
    You don't want to rush things to appease the electorate, only to have the case thrown out or lost due to an oversight. Hell, how many of the "burn him, hang him, he tuk arr economy" brigade even know what he might be charged with?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Have we a date set for his exceution yet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭91011


    From RTE Website:

    ''On 18 March 2010, Gardai arrested Sean Fitzpartick at his residence in Greystones, Co. Wicklow. After a ten minute gunfight, which saw Fitzpatrick clamber to the roof of his family home shouting "Made it Ma, top of the world!", Garda negotiators enticed him down by announcing that "a three ball needs a fourth on the first tee at Druids Glen". Gardai threatening to "Go Corrib" finally convinced FitzPatrick to co-operate. FitzPatrick was lead away to a safe house in the K Club for intense interrogation.''

    looks better this way :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭Teddy Chips


    Bout time. An example needs to be set.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭Jaysoose


    IS it weird to anybody else that this has happened when his big mate brian is off on hols?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭zootroid


    PeakOutput wrote: »
    whivch part of that is illegal? do you know? i dont i imagine that the only part of what you listed that might be illegal is the loans to prop up share prices or the loans he took o buy his own shares. i have a feeling that he has been arrested and is being questioned for something we havnt heard about yet

    i hope he does go to jail but mentioning him in the same sentence as bernie madoff is stupid

    The transfer between Anglo and Irish Life would definitely be illegal, they classed it as customer deposits when it was an inter bank deposit, there by making the bank look more attractive to the stock market.

    I have also refrained from saying I hope he rots etc, but given that news of this broke over a year ago I think the guards are taking their time with the investigation.


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