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MARCA steps up campaign to oust Real coach Pellegrini

  • 18-03-2010 9:47am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭


    This is just ridiculous now. The main headline of today's MARCA is who should be Real's next coach because "unless there's a miracle", Pellegrini will be sacked - even though they're top of the league on goal difference. MARCA's contenders?:

    http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://www.marca.com/2010/03/18/futbol/equipos/real_madrid/1268893921.html&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhgF_OYTv-AcitHkcvZ-fzgjRVbBjw

    Mourinho - would be an idiot to join a club that has no stability or belief in its managers. I'm sure he would hate being man-managed by Fiorentino Perez too

    Benitez - really? Ok he won a Champions League, but is this guy who you would want with a chequebook? Only in football could someone who has performed as disastrous as Benitez be in-line for a £16m contract pay-off and a promotion to a better club (arguably).

    Ancelloti - I really think people are over-reacting after Chelsea were knocked out of the CL this week but wouldn't be a bad choice.

    Capello - hmm Real, didn't you sack him last time he won the league for you?


    Do MARCA or Perez have any credibility left? This is the Spanish daily that immediately threw a smoke-screen last week over Lyon's victory by saying "who do you want Real to sign this season?". The offerings - from Jesus Navas to Ribery to Rooney, were all attacking players. Makes my head spin


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    As Side Lowe said earlier in the week, even if Madrid win the league he will be sacked. The ONLY hope he has is that they win the league emphatically and absolutely BATTER (in Ferguson voice) Barca at the Bernabeu.

    Really a shame, I'd love to have Pellegrini as coach of the club I support!

    Oh, and when has Marca ever had credibilty? They literally ARE the circus that is Real Madrid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Even if Madrid win the league he will be sacked. The ONLY hope he has is that they win the league emphatically and absolutely BATTER (in Ferguson voice) Barca at the Bernabeu.

    That sounds very like a sentence Sid Lowe said on Football Weekly on Monday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Des wrote: »
    That sounds very like a sentence Sid Lowe said on Football Weekly on Monday.

    Hahaha, exactly right! But it rings so true if you know Madrid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    I hope they do sack Pelligrini, for the simple reason that it will add instability at the club.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    If Perez could sack Del Bosque in 2003 anything is possible.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    I hate Real. I really wish they would just do a Leeds and fuck off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout



    Capello - hmm Real, didn't you sack him last time he won the league for you?

    I think you will find that he managed Real twice, won la liga on both occasions and was sacked twice! Welcome to the circus that is Real Madrid. Sums them up really. As for Marca they are a rag but a very powerful one. They cost Calderon his job last year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Florez is an idiot. Simple as that. In Pellegrini they have a man capable of bringing success back, but because he was not first choice, he was always on borrowed time. Florez wants to be the man known for El Decima. He does not want any pesky manager to have his limelight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Pellegrini is popular amongst the fans isn't he?

    I don't know why a top manager would want to go to the club. Yes we know about their history but from what I understand some of the players are bitching about Pellegrini's methods and then you have Marca being Marca.

    Benitez going to Real Madrid would be absolute train wreck. This is a club that demands attacking football with players up their own arses. I honestly don't think he'd last the halfway mark of the season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,426 ✭✭✭Roar


    Roddy Collins is looking for work....

    (it'd be hilarious to see real relegated if he were given the job :D )


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    Rafa..Rafael..Rafa..Rafael..Rafa..Rafael..Rafael Don't Leave Us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre



    Benitez - really? Ok he won a Champions League, but is this guy who you would want with a chequebook? Only in football could someone who has performed as disastrous as Benitez be in-line for a £16m contract pay-off and a promotion to a better club (arguably).

    Seems like we have another Ronnie Whelan in our midsts... Liga x 2, UEFA Cup x 1, Champions League x 1, FA Cup x 1.

    It's amazing how a manager with so much success, who has been headhunted by Real and Juve for the past few seasons, can't seem to get any sort of respect from football fans or the media in this country or the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,601 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    I think if they went after Benitez it would be a great favour to Liverpool who would dodge the compensation payments that would be incurred by sacking Benitez and receive compensation from Madrid to break the contract so they could get money to get a new manager. Hope it doesn't happen though because as a United fan I'm very happy with the job he is doing at Liverpool. (although I suppose if he leaves we might start beating Liverpool again :rolleyes: )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭GSPfan


    There's only one man with the credentials to manage Real Madrid.

    David Beckham.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    Seems like we have another Ronnie Whelan in our midsts... Liga x 2, UEFA Cup x 1, Champions League x 1, FA Cup x 1.
    But what has he done for us lately? :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    If they want any sustained success, they need to get lucky and find a Guardiola. Someone who can handle the team and their egos and who's already to big at the club for Perez to fcuk with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    gosplan wrote: »
    If they want any sustained success, they need to get lucky and find a Guardiola. Someone who can handle the team and their egos and who's already to big at the club for Perez to fcuk with.

    Raul


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Seems like we have another Ronnie Whelan in our midsts... Liga x 2, UEFA Cup x 1, Champions League x 1, FA Cup x 1.

    .


    im very much in the keep rafa red brigade

    but you do have to quantify what you said there

    his success with Valencia was with Cupers squad

    and his CL success with Liverpool was with Houlliers squad

    when he built his own team in Valencia, it didnt work out so well

    What has he done with Liverpool with his own team?

    I dont wanna get into a bashing rafa thread, just pointing out little bits of subtext to the stats


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    gosplan wrote: »
    If they want any sustained success, they need to get lucky and find a Guardiola. Someone who can handle the team and their egos and who's already to big at the club for Perez to fcuk with.

    Spain works differnet to England, the "club" buys the players its the coahces job to make them play.

    Fairly sure Guardiola didnt want Ibra but het he got him and lost Etoo.

    Theres a big difference between coach and manager in spain, no manager really gets to pick the players he gets.

    pretty cool system for Sevilla anyway :D


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    gosplan wrote: »
    If they want any sustained success, they need to get lucky and find a Guardiola. Someone who can handle the team and their egos and who's already to big at the club for Perez to fcuk with.

    Maradona would be the perfect fit.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Marca is a footballing daily newspaper.. imagine the back pages of the tabloids stretched to a full "newspaper" & imagine the headlines they'd have to write to get the readership they need to stay in business.

    It's a rag. That's all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    kryogen wrote: »
    im very much in the keep rafa red brigade

    but you do have to quantify what you said there

    his success with Valencia was with Cupers squad

    and his CL success with Liverpool was with Houlliers squad

    when he built his own team in Valencia, it didnt work out so well

    What has he done with Liverpool with his own team?

    I dont wanna get into a bashing rafa thread, just pointing out little bits of subtext to the stats

    Course you do stop lying, you're fooling no one.

    Back on topic, Madrid are laughable to be honest. No manager with any bit of cop on would go to a club where he has little say in signings or has to deal with Raul hovering in the background.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    dreamers75 wrote: »
    Spain works differnet to England, the "club" buys the players its the coahces job to make them play.

    Fairly sure Guardiola didnt want Ibra but het he got him and lost Etoo.

    Theres a big difference between coach and manager in spain, no manager really gets to pick the players he gets.

    pretty cool system for Sevilla anyway :D



    your just wrong here im sorry

    no everything you said is wrong, but pretty close to it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    flahavaj wrote: »
    No manager with any bit of cop on would go to a club where he has little say in signings or has to deal with Raul hovering in the background.

    3 years wages for 12 months MAX work, where can i apply?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Course you do stop lying, you're fooling no one.

    Back on topic, Madrid are laughable to be honest. No manager with any bit of cop on would go to a club where he has little say in signings or has to deal with Raul hovering in the background.

    actually if you had looked you would have seen my defence of the man consistently in the liverpool thread

    but sure hey

    dont let the truth get in the way of a little bitching pal

    Raul, unless he has gone seriously backwards since i last saw him, has been a model pro for a while now

    he causes no problems anymore


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    dreamers75 wrote: »
    3 years wages for 12 months MAX work, where can i apply?

    True actually.:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    kryogen wrote: »

    Raul, unless he has gone seriously backwards since i last saw him, has been a model pro for a while now

    he causes no problems anymore

    Anymore? So the problems he caused were acceptable?? he was picking the team ffs under guidance from the owner that it didnt matter who the manager was.


    thats ****ed up even terry cant sink that low.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    where did i say the things Raul did in the past were acceptable?

    he lost the fans and he won them back by changing his behaviour

    you exaggerate a little dont ya

    there is a distinct flair for the dramatic in your posts also, so ill just say good luck to ya now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    kryogen wrote: »
    actually if you had looked you would have seen my defence of the man consistently in the liverpool thread

    but sure hey

    dont let the truth get in the way of a little bitching pal

    Raul, unless he has gone seriously backwards since i last saw him, has been a model pro for a while now

    he causes no problems anymore

    Yes I've read your tongue in cheek "defences." KRAP and all that, fools no one tbh.

    Even the fact that Raul at any stage undermined a manager makes him a nefarious influence in the dressing room that I wouldn't appreciate as manager.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    you just dont get it unfortunatly then pal

    Raul or no Raul, if you manage Real Madrid someone will undermine you, whether its in the dressing room or the board room

    why point all the hate at one player?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    kryogen wrote: »
    you just dont get it unfortunatly then pal

    Raul or no Raul, if you manage Real Madrid someone will undermine you, whether its in the dressing room or the board room

    why point all the hate at one player?

    Read again. I also mentioned teh board room in my post. You're basically agreeing with me.

    Second night in a row you've been hit with the slow stick kryogen, I'm getting tired of this KRAP tbh.:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    kryogen wrote: »
    where did i say the things Raul did in the past were acceptable?

    he lost the fans and he won them back by changing his behaviour

    you exaggerate a little dont ya

    there is a distinct flair for the dramatic in your posts also, so ill just say good luck to ya now

    Im with you now, i see what your at. Give Raul the job...... awesome plan, cunning but awesome altho your a fan of barca or real or someone else. its a cunning plan and i endorse it 100%.


    genius ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Smegball


    Benitez would not fit Madrid at all, his efficient solid brand of football would not go down well in Madrid, he would last a year at most.

    Wonder would they approach Blanc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Smegball wrote: »
    Benitez would not fit Madrid at all, his efficient solid brand of football would not go down well in Madrid, he would last a year at most.

    Wonder would they approach Blanc.

    Efficient? Solid? Yr having a laugh, I presume?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭Valmont


    Quick question: Where do Real Madrid get all their money from? Ronaldo and Kaka must have cost a fortune combined.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    Valmont wrote: »
    Quick question: Where do Real Madrid get all their money from? Ronaldo and Kaka must have cost a fortune combined.

    €500m in debt.

    Summer spending spree came from bank loans.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    credit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Smegball


    Efficient? Solid? Yr having a laugh, I presume?

    Hardly free flowing, expansive entertaining football anyways.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Read again. I also mentioned teh board room in my post. You're basically agreeing with me.

    :

    eh, yeah. i know

    and you call me slow?

    its actually like trying to talk physics to a 5 year old sometimes with you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Smegball wrote: »
    Hardly free flowing, expansive entertaining football anyways.

    Well it's not free flowing, entertaining, solid or even effficient. There mus be some word for it. Sh*te, perhaps?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Valmont wrote: »
    Quick question: Where do Real Madrid get all their money from? Ronaldo and Kaka must have cost a fortune combined.



    Govermant backed imagine if FF backed Sporting Fingal except in spain the tribunals are VS the provinces and not VS the goverment.

    Would kinda piss you off if you lived there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    kryogen wrote: »
    eh, yeah. i know

    and you call me slow?

    its actually like trying to talk physics to a 5 year old sometimes with you

    LOL. Desperately poor stuff bai.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    it really is true what they say isnt it ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    a little knowledge is a dangerous thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    kryogen wrote: »

    a little knowledge is a dangerous thing

    try posting when you have some, would make this topic at least somewhat relevent to the OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    dreamers75 wrote: »
    try posting when you have some, would make this topic at least somewhat relevent to the OP.

    seriously how old are you

    do you not have school or something tomorrow

    go to bed will ya


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    kryogen wrote: »
    seriously how old are you

    do you not have school or something tomorrow

    go to bed will ya

    uhh touche?


    guess this is where you say YORE MA , as you have no actual intelligent input to this thread.

    srsly the posts pertaining to your username have been complete ****e in this thread, do you have an actual point or is the username that is posting this ****e just a ****e poster :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    did you actually spell touchy wrong in that ramble?

    i like it

    and if you insist

    YORE MA


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    great thread, would read again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    kindergarten2.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    kryogen wrote: »
    did you actually spell touchy wrong in that ramble?

    i like it

    and if you insist

    YORE MA

    yeah i spelt touche wrong.


    Cheers for the YORE MA, you have confirmed my faith in something.


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