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My 10 Week Plan. What do you think???

  • 16-03-2010 4:55pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33


    I'm about to start my latest 10 week plan. I’ve been weights training on and off (stopped due to a few injuries) for the last 5 years. Starting a 10 week plan now for the summer now. My main goals are to get to around 10-11% body fat(to get core definition). I would also like to bench close to 100Kg as well.

    Current Stats

    Height: 183cm
    Weight: 76.8Kg
    Body Fat: 14.3%
    Bench 80kg, One Rep Max rep is 95Kg

    My Workout plan

    4 days on/ 3 days off - Like to do legs at the start or end of each session rather than dedicating a full session, just find it easier.
    Reps are 12,10,8 unless otherwise specified (increasing weights each time)
    Run 1 Mile to warm up - normally takes 7-8 mins
    Day 1: Chest & Calves
    Bench Press - 10,8,8,6
    Incline Bench Press - 8,8,6
    Decline Press - 8,8,6
    Cable Flys - 10,8,8,6
    Pulldowns
    Standing Raise
    Seated Raise

    Day 2: Hamstrings & Back
    Hamstring Curl
    Stiff legged Dead lift
    Chin-ups
    Bent over row
    Seat Rows
    Dead Lifts
    Shrugs

    Day 3: Shoulders and Calves
    Front Raises
    Shoulder Press
    Cable Crossovers
    Bent-over Delts
    Upright Rows
    Seated Bi-cep Curls
    Single leg press toe raise
    Standing Raise

    Day 4: Quads and Arms
    Squats
    Leg Press
    Standing Bicep Curl
    Seated DB curls
    Lying extensions
    Close grip bench press
    Pulldown
    Leg extensions

    Eating Plan
    Shake = 1 x 30g scoop of protein

    8am - Shake, 1g HMB, ZMA, 5g glutamine, 2 Wheatbix + 2 Spoonfuls of Pure Bran + Skimmed Milk, Dissolvable Vit c, Omega 3 Capsule

    9:30am - 2 Boiled Eggs (1 Yolk Removed)

    10:45am - Shake

    12pm - Portion of Lean Meat, Double Portion of Green Veg(Broccoli, String Beans) + 2 Slices of girlfriend homemade brown bread(no butter)

    3pm - Apple

    4pm - Shake, 1g HMB, ZMA, 5g glutamine

    6pm - Dinner - Lean Meat, Salad(Spinach, peppers, onion, broccoli, Bean(Chickpeas, lentils)

    6:30pm - GYM

    8pm - Shake, Creatine EE, HMB, Glutamine, Vit tablet


    List of foods to eat from as much as possible

     All green vegetables including broccoli, courgettes/zucchini, green beans, kale
     All white vegetables including cauliflower, white cabbage, mushrooms, radishes
     All salad vegetables such as lettuce, cucumber, peppers, tomatoes
     Whole fruits such as apples, cherries, grapefruit, pears, plums, oranges, strawberries, peaches
     Pulses such as lentils, chickpeas and dried beans
     Seeds such as linseeds/flax, pumpkin, sunflower, sesame and hemp
     Nuts such as almonds, brazils, walnuts, pine nuts, macadamias and peanuts
     Plain yoghurt
     High fibre, unsweetened cereals such as All Bran and muesli
     High fibre, whole grain bread
     Sweet potatoes
     Whole wheat pasta
     Brown or basmati rice, buckwheat grains, quinoa
    List of foods to avoid as much as possible


     Starchy vegetables such as parsnips and cooked carrots
     Ripe bananas
     Fruit yoghurts and desserts high in sugar such as imitation mousse
     Fruit juices
     Dried figs, dates
     White bread, baguettes, bagels
     Cream crackers, white rice cakes
     Iced cakes and pastries, filled biscuits/cookies, doughnuts
     Scones, crumpets, waffles
     Sweet pies
     Fruit canned in syrup
     Breakfast cereals containing sugar
     Baked and mashed potatoes, chips/fries
     White rice
     Corn and rice pasta
     Pizza
     Popcorn
     High sugar jams/jelly
     Crisps/chips and other potato- and corn-based snacks
     Fruit drinks containing added sugar
     Fizzy drinks containing sugar
     Sweets/sugar candy and chocolate bars/chocolate candy
     Thickened soups
     Table sugar
     Ice cream containing glucose syrup or high levels of other sugars


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭amazingemmet


    Your plan gets one star out of five from me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭cardio,shoot me


    just gonna say it, your plan is crap.

    all over the place with no real structure whatsoever.

    ill give you a tip i wish id listened to alot earlier than i did. dont make up your own program unless you are experienced as hell.

    follow a program that someone has tried and tested that works.

    id reccomend starting strength or 5/3/1 from personal experience.

    also 10 weeks seems like an awfully short time to do a program, ive been doing my current program for about 6 months at this stage


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    Your plan gets one star out of five from me

    Why do people copy and paste diets from american bodybuilding sites?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 dricco


    Degsy wrote: »
    Why do people copy and paste diets from american bodybuilding sites?

    NOT copied and pasted mate, the diet is my own. I've been on/off it for the last 4 months. The guidelines were given to me by my cousin(pro rugby league player).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭cc87


    dricco wrote: »
    NOT copied and pasted mate, the diet is my own. I've been on/off it for the last 4 months. The guidelines were given to me by my cousin(pro rugby league player).

    A pro rugby league player would not have a diet that would lead to a low body fat as they would bf to be around 15% so as to provide some protection from the repeated blows their body would take. They would also have a big calorie requirement as they would be training 2/3 times a day

    Also whats you 1rm in deadlift and squat??
    With the program the way it is chances are you will get bored of it or burn out cos your doing way too much i think.

    Plus you will end up spending a fortune on supplements with the amount your taking!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    dricco wrote: »
    NOT copied and pasted mate, the diet is my own. I've been on/off it for the last 4 months. The guidelines were given to me by my cousin(pro rugby league player).

    "Sweets/sugar candy and chocolate bars/chocolate candy"

    We dont have candy in this country mate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 dricco


    cc87 wrote: »
    A pro rugby league player would not have a diet that would lead to a low body fat as they would bf to be around 15% so as to provide some protection from the repeated blows their body would take. They would also have a big calorie requirement as they would be training 2/3 times a day

    Also whats you 1rm in deadlift and squat??
    With the program the way it is chances are you will get bored of it or burn out cos your doing way too much i think.

    Plus you will end up spending a fortune on supplements with the amount your taking!

    The GUIDELINES are from my cousin not the diet and trust me, he's not 15%. He's about 10%. They'd all typically be between 8%-12%. What good is fat in contact, I'd prefer to have muscle. All the fat is doing, is slowing you down.

    1rm for deadlift is 120Kg
    1rm for squat is 110kg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 dricco


    Degsy wrote: »
    "Sweets/sugar candy and chocolate bars/chocolate candy"

    We dont have candy in this country mate.

    Look, I got it from my cousin, maybe he got it from a coach or maybe he pulled it off the internet himself, to be honest I don't really care. I'm here to get some advice on my plan and to be honest it looks like you have nothing valuable to add.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    If you're whining about the responses about your program, why ask the forum what it thinks in the first place? To answer your question, people think your program sucks. Now you can either ask for advice choosing a new one, or continue with this current one. Probably the wrong place to look for undeserved pats on the back though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,187 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    If you're whining about the responses about your program, why ask the forum what it thinks in the first place? To answer your question, people think your program sucks. Now you can either ask for advice choosing a new one, or continue with this current one. Probably the wrong place to look for undeserved pats on the back though.

    In fairness people are whining about colloquiums and doubting his sources. Hardly constructive.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭cc87


    Why not look into one of the strength programs like starting strength, stronglifts or even wendlers 5/3/1.........theres no need for all the assistance stuff in your program. You would be better off keeping it simple and if you really want your 6 pack throw in some core stuff at the end of your workout.

    Me, id prefer big shoulders,legs,chest and back......this is ireland, never get much of a chance to show off a 6 pack!! :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 dricco


    If you're whining about the responses about your program, why ask the forum what it thinks in the first place? To answer your question, people think your program sucks. Now you can either ask for advice choosing a new one, or continue with this current one. Probably the wrong place to look for undeserved pats on the back though.

    I hear for advice please!! Just don't see the use in someone just adding a comment that plan is crap and that's it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 dricco


    cc87 wrote: »
    You would be better off keeping it simple and if you really want your 6 pack throw in some core stuff at the end of your workout.

    Me, id prefer big shoulders,legs,chest and back......this is ireland, never get much of a chance to show off a 6 pack!! :D:D

    Sorry never put that in. I do p90x core workout after the session on day 2 and day 4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,857 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    Doing biceps 2 consecutive days is bad IMO. if you're going to target the same muscle 2 days per week, then leave some space.

    As the guys have already said there are better more thought out workouts available for free. Doug's 4 day split needs a bit of jiggling as far as the days are concerned, but it's a nice mix for a 10 week workout.

    Food-wise, yep that's a lot of shakes. Personally I have 2 shakes. Pre and post workout. I don't see a need for fast protein during the day. I just take the pre workout shake because I'm pressed for time usually.

    I would see a seperate leg day as unavoidable for me. I simply am too wasted to mix em up, I find back and legs to be pretty tough. So I train

    1)shoulders & tris,
    2)back
    3)rest + cardio
    4)chest and bis,
    5)legs.


    I've been having problems with the bent-over row, Don't think this is a good exercise for me. Anyone have any suggestions? I'm still doing the straight legged deadlift for now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭mrkf1984


    dricco wrote: »


    + 2 Slices of girlfriend homemade brown bread(no butter)

    what happens if u break up with your girlfriend? your eating plan will be ruined


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭brutusthebarber


    mrkf1984 wrote: »
    what happens if u break up with your girlfriend? your eating plan will be ruined


    WTF?? That's just pointless.

    Lads, the OP came on looking for advice and you give him crap about phrases he used in his post??? ffs

    OP, cardio mentioned 531 and Starting Strength. Read up on the programs and buy the books.

    Personally I'd go with Starting Strength.. BUT 531 is good aswell. See which one you think will suit.

    Good luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 dricco


    WTF?? That's just pointless.

    Lads, the OP came on looking for advice and you give him crap about phrases he used in his post??? ffs

    OP, cardio mentioned 531 and Starting Strength. Read up on the programs and buy the books.

    Personally I'd go with Starting Strength.. BUT 531 is good aswell. See which one you think will suit.

    Good luck!

    Thanks for the help, going to reduce my reps to 10,8,6 on some and 8,6,5 on on others and might add a fourth set for 2 reps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,857 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    I do 4(12, 10, 8, 6) for compound, and 3(10, 8, 6) for arms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭stephentbb2000


    Hi Dricco,

    First of all your programme should be a max of 6 weeks and at this stage you need to re evaluate it and change or there will be no progression as your body will adapt to it.

    Second of all your programme is to general, you need to set out specific targets, ie strength/body composition/muscular endurance etc.

    Third of all, you should try and seek advice from someone close by who can professionally make out programmes.

    You will keep a level of appearance and fitness doing what our doing but more than likely you will not achieve your goals. Any Qs post them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭eroo


    If strength is your goal - drop the bodybuilding routine. Each training unit should be total body, with 2-3 units per week. Focus on compound lifts such as squat, deadlift and clean or snatch if you know them(ONLY IF YOU KNOW THEM, HOW TO DO THEM AND KNOW YOUR LIMITS), with rep range of 3-5. 8 weeks will do, with week's 4 and 8 being 'unloading' weeks i.e. 1 unit each week

    If hypertrophy is your goal, simplify your programme to something like upper body/lower days. Back+arms routine is too complicated and should only be used by bodybuilders. Total body routine as above except with rep range of 5-12 will do you better.

    Body building routines work for bodybuilders. Too complicated and time consuming for normal people :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,857 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    Anyone feel chest + tri's or back + bi's is a bit of a let down?
    I actually do chest + bi's and shoulders + tri's and back / legs get their own days (cos they kill me, especially leg day).

    The reason behind this is you're working the tris on chest day and the bi's on back day, so my question is can you get good arm work done on the parts involved in the compound's for that day.

    A little off topic I know but I'd welcome some input.


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