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Foreskin

  • 15-03-2010 4:25pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭


    Only recently have I begun pulling the foreskin full back during sexual inter course, before this period I would have had sex on many occasions without doing so but I began to get a voile smell from my head which I found disgusting and would turn any second party off within moments, and I have also begun pulling it back when excreting urine too as advised by my G.P

    My question is do you pull your foreskin back during a visit to the toilet or during sexual inter course


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,183 ✭✭✭✭Will


    Uhm not sure whether to move this to S&S or leave it as is. :-/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭D.R cowboy


    leave it , it is not sexual it a questions towards men


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    Do you wash under your foreskin regularly?

    Will, I don't blame you for being confused!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭D.R cowboy


    Do you wash under your foreskin regularly?

    Will, I don't blame you for being confused!

    Only recently have I begun pulling the skin back in the shower to make it less sensitive and during sex


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    Not sure i quite understand, can you pull it back the full way, if not this is a medical issues and won't be dealt with here, if you can then I'm still abit confused.

    Peeing, I pull back a small bit just so its not in the way but no need to pull back whole way.
    Sex, it comes back mostly anyway when aroused but yeah would make sure is back before putting on condom.
    Also do you pull back and wash in shower you should do this if you aren't.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Christ, I've no idea what the confusion is about. It's a hygene issue. The lad has never retraced his forskin and now that he has, he's noticed the smega build up around the head of his penis, which is normal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭Iderown


    Wish I had been left with a foreskin to pull back/ not pull back / wash / not wash.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    D.R cowboy wrote: »
    My question is do you pull your foreskin back during a visit to the toilet or during sexual inter course
    Yes and yes and wash daily and have a gentlemans wash before any hows yer father too.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    yes and yes. Wouldn't have thought it possible to have sex without doing so but learn something new every day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Glad I'm circumcised tbh :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Herbal Deity


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Glad I'm circumcised tbh :pac:
    Glad I'm not ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Its not necessary to pull it back to have sex. If it doesnt do it automatically its really a matter of preference. But if you have trouble pulling it back it is probably a medical condition. Think its called phimosis or something like that. Very common and easily fixed at home by stretching it back a little bit every day in the shower. You should google it. Nothing to get worried over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭Nozebleed


    Aqueous cream buy it from your local chemist. and wash your mickey with it instead of using soap or shower gel. its very good for the area,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭Tender Hoop


    Dude you need to wash under the hood everyday

    Otherwise you'll get a build up of cock cheese. not good


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    OP, it is one of the essential's for a man's good hygiene that he always wash under his foreskin when in the shower. This should be done every day! Otherwise, as mentioned in previous posts, a fairly nasty smell can occur and smegma ('cock chesse') can build up and neither of these are pleasant at all!

    Obviously, circumcised guys will never have this worry... but for us uncirc'd lads, always keep it clean down there!!! Your significant other will be most appreciative!;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Jazus OP....you have to wash under the hood every day but not too rigorously as you might irritate it and get thrush which is not pleasant either...I find that letting it dry with the hood all the way back is good as well...lets it dry naturally and gets some fresh air in...:)

    How do you expect to get BJs otherwise? The test is...would you suck it? If not you have a problem..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭sqlpod


    OP. if you want to keep your foreskin, as well as G/F's get cleaning !!!
    The build up of gunk and bacteria is called SMEGMA, (google it)and it's not nice, as for not cleaning the corona of your penis you run the high risk of contracting infection's leading to serious medical problems ( phimosis,paraphimosis,balinitis etc) and yes in turn the big 'C'.
    trust me dude i know, i was a Cavalier but now a Roundhead(phimosis). Actually i much prefer no foreskin, cleaner and far more fun ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Jazus OP....you have to wash under the hood every day but not too rigorously as you might irritate it and get thrush which is not pleasant either...I find that letting it dry with the hood all the way back is good as well...lets it dry naturally and gets some fresh air in...:)

    How do you expect to get BJs otherwise? The test is...would you suck it? If not you have a problem..

    It's not like you're ever told about smega growing up, nor that you should retract your forskin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    Boston wrote: »
    It's not like you're ever told about smega growing up, nor that you should retract your forskin.

    Very true. Not many parents are willing to talk to their boys about hygiene down there! It is something that should be told to boys, tbh, but sadly thanks to squeamishness and embarrassment on the part of the parents, they never do tell us these things....:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Mensch Maschine


    Why did I open this thread while eating? :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,675 ✭✭✭TechnoPool


    Why did I open this thread while eating? :confused:


    indeed, and not of fan of that '' would you suck it phrase'' :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Why did I open this thread while eating? :confused:
    TechnoPool wrote: »
    indeed, and not of fan of that '' would you suck it phrase'' :(

    Are you honestly whining about opening a thread called "foreskin". You have free will, use it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭kayos


    Boston wrote: »
    It's not like you're ever told about smega growing up, nor that you should retract your forskin.

    You might not be told but the stink that would start coming from the area should be sign enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭fasty


    I've read that poor foreskin/glans hygiene can lead to penile cancer. Keep it clean, but just warm water, no soap!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    It is allegedly one of the causes of penile cancer; the build up of smegma... Good hygiene should be a must anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    This is when being circumsised has its advantages


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    krudler wrote: »
    This is when being circumsised has its advantages

    Haha, too true at times. But it also has its disadvantages too. Unfortunately there's no happy medium.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭Iderown


    I'm all for adults having the freedom to choose what they do WITH THEIR OWN BODY after they have studied pros and cons.

    I don't like unnecessary, body altering surgery being forced on baby boys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    DazMarz wrote: »
    Haha, too true at times. But it also has its disadvantages too. Unfortunately there's no happy medium.......

    I'd like to know what the advantages to foreskin are, speaking as someone whos never had any, cleanliness would be the main one against I'd imagine, any uncut lads wanna share their opinions?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    from a female point of view, i much prefer a circumcised guy - cleaner, "fresher" and just neater


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    krudler wrote: »
    I'd like to know what the advantages to foreskin are, speaking as someone whos never had any, cleanliness would be the main one against I'd imagine, any uncut lads wanna share their opinions?
    Sensitivity, sensitivity, sensitivity basically. The head of the penis is a very sensitive part of the body. There is no way I could walk a 100 yards with my foreskin retracted(naked maybe, but that tends to lead to court appearances... or so Ive read.....). Way too sensitive. I cant imagine being able to lose sensitivity the point where I could walk in clothes. Im sure it would be gradual and I wouldnt notice, but from what Ive gathered from guys who have rebuilt their foreskins(big thing in the states I gather) they defo notice the sensitivity coming back.

    The foreskin itself has a load of nerve endings and touch in that area floats my boat anyway. So if that got removed I would miss that aspect alone. Then the head of the penis. The foreskin protects and keeps it moist. All mammals have a foreskin so it's clearly there for an evolutionary reason. Its not a vestigial part of the body that some claim, by any stretch. Now we can improve on evolution so thats not that great an argument, but how removing enervated erogenous tissue and by doing so, drying out and keratinising(hardening) the skin of the glans is an improvement I just dont see.

    Yes if there is an underlying medical problem* that means a man doesnt have a functioning foreskin then yes, good call, remove it, if less invasive techniques are getting nowhere. But removal at birth is out of order IMHO and too many doctors go straight to circumcision without exploring less invasive methods that may work for some.

    Removal for "fashion" or religious reasons is daft IMHO. If you agree with the latter on males then you should also agree with circumcision in women. While the damage is obviously more in women, the cultural ethos behind it is almost identical. Its a religious duty, it looks better, its "cleaner", it reduces wanton behaviour**, its a cultural tradition and your parent had it done. Looked at objectively in the western world with our medical expertise, its a throwback to more superstitious times.

    So IMHO anyway the best penile health as far as sexual function would be a fully healthy easily retractable foreskin. A second level would be removal of the foreskin where its hindering sexual and other function.

    Education for men is another thing. The last few years on this site has shocked me how many guys have no clue. Whatever excuse my generation had, its kinda hard to fathom today with google a click away. Why is that I wonder? :confused:

    Men should be taught about penile health. Should be told that retraction of the foreskin is a good thing. They'll probably be vigourous enough in retracting it anyway ;):D. One theory I read held that inability to retract the foreskin in adults may be because of the way some guys masturbated when younger. The ones with no issues retracted as part of that. But defo more education.




    *diabetes would be one example. Where scar tissue can build up and massively reduce function.

    ** male circumcision was pushed in the US in the latter part of the 19th century as a method to reduce male masturbation.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    Was about to make a post along the lines of Wibbs' post. Sensitivity and other things... Saw this on some American site where pro-circ'ers and anti-circ'ers are KILLING each other!!! Great fun to see some of the posts/comments, but I pinched this really quick and got the hell out...

    Functions of the foreskin (according to the anti-circ brigade):

    1
    Erotic pleasure, especially via the ridged band and Meissner's corpuscles
    2
    Acts as a rolling bearing in intercourse and masturbation
    3
    Prevents dyspareunia (painful intercourse)
    4
    Stimulates partner's genitalia, giving erotic pleasure
    5
    Supplies skin to cover the shaft in erection and prevent tightness
    6
    Stores pheromones and releases them on arousal
    7
    Stores, releases and helps distribute natural lubricants ("smega" and pre-ejaculatory fluid)
    8
    Makes the glans a visual signal of sexual arousal
    9
    Provides a seal against the vaginal wall to contain semen
    Protective10
    Prevents the glans becoming keratinised, and keeps it soft and moist
    11
    Protects the thin-skinned glans against injury
    12
    Protects the nerves of the glans, retaining their erotic function
    13
    In infancy, protects the urethra against contamination, meatal stenosis, (and UTIs?)
    14
    Provides lysosomes for bacteriostatic action around the glans
    15
    Pigmented, it protects the unpigmented glans against sunburn
    16
    Vascular (rich in blood vessels that bring heat to the tissues), it protects the less vascular glans against frostbite, as Sir Ranulph Fiennes found on his epic transpolar walk


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    sam34 wrote: »
    from a female point of view, i much prefer a circumcised guy - cleaner, "fresher" and just neater
    Ok but enough women rightfully have issue with brazilians etc being thought of as somehow better looking by the culture ATM and hair grows back. Swap genders for a sec. Women's genitals come in all shapes and sizes, so how would you feel as a woman if a man said that say bigger labia should be surgically reduced or surgery on baby girls should be done as it would look neater and cleaner?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    15
    Pigmented, it protects the unpigmented glans against sunburn

    sorry but this just nearly made laugh tea through my nose :D
    Sensitivity, sensitivity, sensitivity basically. The head of the penis is a very sensitive part of the body. There is no way I could walk a 100 yards with my foreskin retracted(naked maybe, but that tends to lead to court appearances... or so Ive read.....). Way too sensitive. I cant imagine being able to lose sensitivity the point where I could walk in clothes. Im sure it would be gradual and I wouldnt notice, but from what Ive gathered from guys who have rebuilt their foreskins(big thing in the states I gather) they defo notice the sensitivity coming back.

    Hmm, mine is sensitive in the sense that if the missus starts rubbing it, well... ya know :D wouldnt feel anything walking around though, although I supposed after nearly 30 years I'm used to it, as far as I know mine was removed as it didnt retract properly when I was born, my girlfriends brother had the same issue but he only got circumcised last year when he was 12, poor fecker was in pain for weeks, although he got a PS3 out of it to keep him occupied while he recovered so its not all bad :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    AFAIK, the foreskin isn't supposed to be able to retract at birth anyway. I vaguely remember not being able to get mine all the way back until I was like 13 or so.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    krudler wrote: »
    sorry but this just nearly made laugh tea through my nose :D
    Ditto :pac::pac:
    DazMarz wrote: »
    AFAIK, the foreskin isn't supposed to be able to retract at birth anyway. I vaguely remember not being able to get mine all the way back until I was like 13 or so.
    Yea thats what I understood too. Its not fully formed at birth and the willy only starts to mature at the start of puberty?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Herbal Deity


    sam34 wrote: »
    from a female point of view, i much prefer a circumcised guy - cleaner, "fresher" and just neater
    If the guys washes properly every day, I don't understand how being circumcised makes a guy's glans any cleaner or fresher.

    However, I would not be surprised if a huge amount of guys rarely clean there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Yea thats what I understood too. Its not fully formed at birth and the willy only starts to mature at the start of puberty?

    Something to that effect, yeah... Understandable too, as men are only supposed to start ''using'' it at that age anyway.

    It's really what you're used to that makes you like something really. In places where circumcision is common (USA, Islamic countries, Israel etc.), obviously it's preferred. Elsewhere, it's not the norm as much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    kayos wrote: »
    You might not be told but the stink that would start coming from the area should be sign enough.

    You mean the stink which is largely only noticeable when the foreskin is retracted? That one?
    krudler wrote: »
    This is when being circumsised has its advantages

    The main advantage of circumcision is the reduced risk of contracting HIV through sexual intercourse.
    Iderown wrote: »
    I'm all for adults having the freedom to choose what they do WITH THEIR OWN BODY after they have studied pros and cons.

    I don't like unnecessary, body altering surgery being forced on baby boys.

    When I was in spain last I say all these babies while helmets on their heads. Some crack pot doctor had set up a practise arguing that it was a good idea to manipulated a child skull structure to obtain the "perfect shape". Parents are acting in what they believe to be in the best interest of the child.
    DazMarz wrote: »
    AFAIK, the foreskin isn't supposed to be able to retract at birth anyway. I vaguely remember not being able to get mine all the way back until I was like 13 or so.

    For moi it was sometime just after I became sexually active.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    If the guys washes properly every day, I don't understand how being circumcised makes a guy's glans any cleaner or fresher.

    However, I would not be surprised if a huge amount of guys rarely clean there.

    This is probably a big problem; lads simply not being bothered to keep it clean! It has to be done, every day! Otherwise, it's just nasty. But once it's kept clean, it's fine! Keep it clean, and there are absolutely no problems with it, at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    I didn't even know that I could retract my foreskin until my late teens early twenties. It simply had not been told to me nor did I ever come across it in a text book. I would imagine that there are a fair few older men around who still do not know either. This is a product of the woefully inadequate sexual/personal education in the past and probably still exists. My sex ed consisted of being told to read through the reproduction part of our junior cert science text book.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    krudler wrote: »
    I'd like to know what the advantages to foreskin are, speaking as someone whos never had any, cleanliness would be the main one against I'd imagine, any uncut lads wanna share their opinions?
    I'm not but have always considered having it done TBH. For reasons that I wont state here (incase some fupper uses it against me in the thunderdome because this isn't P.I.) I may actually get it done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Herbal Deity


    FYI, there is anonymous posting in this forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    FYI, there is anonymous posting in this forum.
    Bit late now :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Ok but enough women rightfully have issue with brazilians etc being thought of as somehow better looking by the culture ATM and hair grows back. Swap genders for a sec. Women's genitals come in all shapes and sizes, so how would you feel as a woman if a man said that say bigger labia should be surgically reduced or surgery on baby girls should be done as it would look neater and cleaner?

    i'm not saying at all that everyone should have it done for those reasons.

    its not a deal breaker for me!

    as i've experience of both, its inevitable that i will compare them, and thats just my humble opinion.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    sam34 wrote: »
    as i've experience of both, its inevitable that i will compare them, and thats just my humble opinion.
    Oh no I get that and we all have preferences, I just meant that often enough you do hear the preference stated by some women and they would consider the practice if they had sons of their own with no medical reasons beyond that preference, or fathers doing similar, because they had it done.

    I was just trying to turn it around gender wise. Imagine that if bigger labia were considered unattractive, "messy looking" or useless excess tissue and there was an operation for religious/fashion reasons* performed on baby girls I suspect there would be a bit of an uproar. And such an operation while removing enervated tissue, would not risk desensitising the clit or remove an entire structure of the female genitals.

    If it was invented today I think the vast majority of doctors would be against the practice. They're not today because its part of the fabric of the society, especially in the US, its considered a religious duty by some so thats a hot potato. The same drs would be obviously fine with it for actual medical reasons of course(and HIV prophylactic reasons in Africa), but as an accepted procedure on newborns? I seriously doubt it.

    *Though the scary thing is that such a cosmetic operation is available out there :eek::eek:

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Herbal Deity


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I was just trying to turn it around gender wise. Imagine that if bigger labia were considered unattractive, "messy looking" or useless excess tissue and there was an operation for religious/fashion reasons* performed on baby girls I suspect there would be a bit of an uproar. And such an operation while removing enervated tissue, would not risk desensitising the clit or remove an entire structure of the female genitals.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    I think what it boils down to is personal preference really. For men who aren't circumcised it's still very very easy to keep it clean and give it that "neat & fresh look and feel" for the female as a circumcised penis would. Your skin should retract enough to reveal the head of the penis on it's own without your foreskin covering a percentage of it AFAIK.

    I think one problem of a penis that isn't circumcised is when using condoms. When you draw back your foreskin and place the condom over your penis sometimes, because of the extra skin now being folded loosely on to the shaft of your penis, some condoms have a tendency to work their way back up the shaft of the penis. This can be frustrating if you're having to adjust the condom every couple of minutes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Herbal Deity


    Bonito wrote: »
    I think one problem of a penis that isn't circumcised is when using condoms. When you draw back your foreskin and place the condom over your penis sometimes, because of the extra skin now being folded loosely on to the shaft of your penis, some condoms have a tendency to work their way back up the shaft of the penis. This can be frustrating if you're having to adjust the condom every couple of minutes.
    I find it depends on the brand/type of condom tbh. I'm not sure if I'd put condoms slipping down entirely down to having a foreskin, but I can see why it could have that effect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    I find it depends on the brand/type of condom tbh. I'm not sure if I'd put condoms slipping down entirely down to having a foreskin, but I can see why it could have that effect.
    Agreed. That's why I stated it only happens with some condoms but, it's a nuisance, nevertheless and the extra skin could be a big factor in it.


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