moderator/ silencer

mack_

Hi guys. was filling in the gun licence form for my new sako.17 and was wondering should i put in for a silencer? whats the story with them? are they legal? if i say it has a silencer will the licence be restricted(whatever this means) any help would be great guys and girls. thanks.:)

endasmail

tick the box for mod ,and if ya want then give reasons on exactly why ya need it (on a bit of paper)
that way seems to have worked for a few people including myself

Cass

mack_ wrote: »

Hi guys. was filling in the gun licence form for my new sako.17 and was wondering should i put in for a silencer?

Only you can answer that. Do you need one? Would it help you in the culling of pests on your lands? If so then tick the box at the bottom of page 3, section 3.2 - Accessories. If you do not need one, then do not tick the box.

whats the story with them? are they legal?

Yes. Perfectly legal once you seek permission (as above) to carry, possess and use one.

if i say it has a silencer will the licence be restricted(whatever this means)

No. Restricted firearms are firearms over .308 calibre with a higher round capacity than 3 or 5 shots (depending on make, shotgun/pistol/rifle) and the design of the firearm (bolt action/semi auto). A silencer/moderator (mod for short) does not make a firearm restricted, only the firearms makeup/design can do that.


My personal opinion is if you do not need a mod don't bother with one. I've seen lads breaking a nut trying to get one then very rarely if ever using one.

mack_

ezridax wrote: »

Only you can answer that. Do you need one? Would it help you in the culling of pests on your lands? If so then tick the box at the bottom of page 3, section 3.2 - Accessories. If you do not need one, then do not tick the box.



Yes. Perfectly legal once you seek permission (as above) to carry, possess and use one.




No. Restricted firearms are firearms over .308 calibre with a higher round capacity than 3 or 5 shots (depending on make, shotgun/pistol/rifle) and the design of the firearm (bolt action/semi auto). A silencer/moderator (mod for short) does not make a firearm restricted, only the firearms makeup/design can do that.


My personal opinion is if you do not need a mod don't bother with one. I've seen lads breaking a nut trying to get one then very rarely if ever using one.

cheers guys for info. think i'll tick the box.do a bit of shooting close to livestock (horses and cattle). A mod would take some of the sound out of the gun . guess that would be reason. what ye think?

Cass

mack_ wrote: »

............ guess that would be reason. what ye think?

If you want one and feel it necessary then tick the box. At the end of the day its the Super who will decide if your reason for requesting one is valid enough.

Go for it. Worst case scenario you get the license but not the mod.

Tackleberrywho

ezridax wrote: »

Only you can answer that. Do you need one? Would it help you in the culling of pests on your lands? If so then tick the box at the bottom of page 3, section 3.2 - Accessories. If you do not need one, then do not tick the box.(apply for one, like anything it could me more difficult in years to come)


No. Restricted firearms are firearms over .308 calibre with a higher round capacity than 3 or 5 shots (depending on make, shotgun/pistol/rifle) and the design of the firearm (bolt action/semi auto). A silencer/moderator (mod for short) does not make a firearm restricted, only the firearms makeup/design can do that.
(A mod is restricted for over .22 cal AFAIK), I have a mod on a .223 remmy. If you want one on a hunting licence explain why. I said, Hunting on lands with livestock; so non disturbance or worry of livestock.
Long story short, If you don't ask you can't get!!
I also asked for as much rounds as I needed(Or could afford to buy at a time lol)

I never take the mod off mine only for cleaning!

mack_

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Tackleberrywho wrote: »

ezridax wrote: »

Only you can answer that. Do you need one? Would it help you in the culling of pests on your lands? If so then tick the box at the bottom of page 3, section 3.2 - Accessories. If you do not need one, then do not tick the box.(apply for one, like anything it could me more difficult in years to come)


No. Restricted firearms are firearms over .308 calibre with a higher round capacity than 3 or 5 shots (depending on make, shotgun/pistol/rifle) and the design of the firearm (bolt action/semi auto). A silencer/moderator (mod for short) does not make a firearm restricted, only the firearms makeup/design can do that.
(A mod is restricted for over .22 cal AFAIK), I have a mod on a .223 remmy. If you want one on a hunting licence explain why. I said, Hunting on lands with livestock; so non disturbance or worry of livestock.
Long story short, If you don't ask you can't get!!
I also asked for as much rounds as I needed(Or could afford to buy at a time lol)

I never take the mod off mine only for cleaning!

Ya i have a mod on my .22lr, and i ticked the box for it but it says nothing about it on licence. think i'll photocopy this liceence before handing it in. I also applied for 5oo rounds but only got 100. there is no gun shop in town so have to go to the city for ammo. ye all know how long 100 rounds last in a .22lr s/a. the lads in the shop are good enough and give me 300 at a time. could i try explain this to f/o and see can it be changed?

clivej

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

ezridax wrote: »

Only you can answer that. Do you need one? Would it help you in the culling of pests on your lands? If so then tick the box at the bottom of page 3, section 3.2 - Accessories. If you do not need one, then do not tick the box.(apply for one, like anything it could me more difficult in years to come)


No. Restricted firearms are firearms over .308 calibre with a higher round capacity than 3 or 5 shots (depending on make, shotgun/pistol/rifle) and the design of the firearm (bolt action/semi auto). A silencer/moderator (mod for short) does not make a firearm restricted, only the firearms makeup/design can do that.
(A mod is restricted for over .22 cal AFAIK), I have a mod on a .223 remmy. If you want one on a hunting licence explain why. I said, Hunting on lands with livestock; so non disturbance or worry of livestock.
Long story short, If you don't ask you can't get!!
I also asked for as much rounds as I needed(Or could afford to buy at a time lol)

I never take the mod off mine only for cleaning!

Should always take off the mod when not in use. The condensation from the gases after firing the gun will rust the thread on the barrel EVEN if you have a stainless steel barrel. A stainless steel barrel is NOT 100% stainless steel, that is why a magnet will stick to one!

smokin ace

mack_ wrote: »

cheers guys for info. think i'll tick the box.do a bit of shooting close to livestock (horses and cattle). A mod would take some of the sound out of the gun . guess that would be reason. what ye think?

i wrote a letter and this is the reasons i gave for the silencer

1. Health and safety - To prevent hearing damage to me and others.
To be aware of what and who is around me when hunting in the “field” and to be able to hear people giving me instructions and warnings.
Hearing protection is not an option under these conditions.

2. Improved accuracy of bullet placement on animals and thereby given a humane kill.
This is one proven enhancement of using a sound suppressor.

3. Public safety and peace. To reduce the noise pollution to the public and wildlife in the area if they are within hearing distance of shots being fired as I have shooting permission on lands where this possibly could happen.
On occasion the night shooting of vermin is needed the use of a sound suppressor will reduce the noise pollution to the public and wildlife.

4. I have permission to shoot on lands for the control of vermin where livestock and horses are kept and at the time of nearing giving birth the sounds of a non sound suppressed firearm being fired will startle and frighten the livestock horses and other animals in the area which could result in loss and death of unborn animals.
The sounds of shooting will stampede the horses that could result in severe injury to myself or the horses a sound suppressor is required on these occasions.


i got this thanks to another user in this site and thats what i sent into the super maybe it might help someone else and to be honest how many more reasons would be required to have a silencer

mack_

Sounds very good smokin ace. Thanks for that. So did you get your mod on your licence, is it written on it?

smokin ace

i only sent away for it last week but in fairness how many more reasons would they want even the local gun dealer got a copy of it and asked could other lads use it to get the silencer because it was put together so well and covers nearly everything and thanks to the other user on this site cant remember who the user was for it

clivej

smokin ace wrote: »

i wrote a letter and this is the reasons i gave for the silencer

1. Health and safety - To prevent hearing damage to me and others.
To be aware of what and who is around me when hunting in the “field” and to be able to hear people giving me instructions and warnings.
Hearing protection is not an option under these conditions.

2. Improved accuracy of bullet placement on animals and thereby given a humane kill.
This is one proven enhancement of using a sound suppressor.

3. Public safety and peace. To reduce the noise pollution to the public and wildlife in the area if they are within hearing distance of shots being fired as I have shooting permission on lands where this possibly could happen.
On occasion the night shooting of vermin is needed the use of a sound suppressor will reduce the noise pollution to the public and wildlife.

4. I have permission to shoot on lands for the control of vermin where livestock and horses are kept and at the time of nearing giving birth the sounds of a non sound suppressed firearm being fired will startle and frighten the livestock horses and other animals in the area which could result in loss and death of unborn animals.
The sounds of shooting will stampede the horses that could result in severe injury to myself or the horses a sound suppressor is required on these occasions.


i got this thanks to another user in this site and thats what i sent into the super maybe it might help someone else and to be honest how many more reasons would be required to have a silencer

Great to see that "Reasons for a mod" permission letter of mine getting put to good use

smokin ace

thanks clivej it really helped me and a lot of others down my way i could not think of what way to word a letter for the reasons to have a mod without sounding like a half wit thanks again

Steyr243Hunter

I used that one as well.
Thanks worked a treat- the local gard as he was reading through the forms said i will have to have a separate letter explaining reasons for mod, he turned to last page, read the first two and goes oh that seems to be in order, there shouldn't be any problem,just have to get funds for mod now.

smokin ace

i hope it do work because i only sent it away last week but everyone that sees the reasons for having a silencer letter says there should be no problem even the my gun dealer but the super in my area is totally anti gun and the local gun dealer was saying that everyone applying for a mod are having terrible trouble getting permission

Cass

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

(A mod is restricted for over .22 cal AFAIK), .......

No. The moderator does not make the gun higher in caliber (over .308) it does not increase the magazine capacity, it merely reduces the sound of the shot and reduces felt recoil.

It is the caliber of the firearm or the amount of ammo it can hold (among others) that cause a firearm to be restricted or not. I have a mod for my .223, .22lr, .308, and 30-06 and none of these firearms are restricted.