Oasis 'Let's All Make Believe'

zimovain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj-xOkHtHRg

Why oh why was this just a b-side on the 'Go Let It O ut' single. For me it's one of their finest tracks and alongside Gas Panic as the best tune from that era. Liam's vocal on this track is one of his finest, the gloomy production and dark lyrics give it a real edge. Should have been on the album. TUNE.

nxbyveromdwjpg

Agree

An Capall Dubh

Quality song, but sure haven't Oasis had manys a great B side?

JerryHandbag

Probably the best B-sides band in the world. Them and The Smiths.

lordgoat

Moving this to music

Batesy

+1. They made some strange decisions with b-sides over the years. How did 'Lets All Make Believe' not make it on to SOTSOG when the likes of 'I Can See A Liar' 'Little James' and 'Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is' are on there?!?!?

thesultan

AGree with you there a very fine song, in comparsion with the rubbish remixes we got on the last singles its a great shame that Noel in the latter years didn't put enough effort into the band

Xavi6

I bought the 'Go Let It Out' single purely for this song. Fantastic tune and easily one of their best, if not the best, between 1996 and now.

thebigcheese22

JerryHandbag wrote: »

Probably the best B-sides band in the world. Them and The Smiths.

Nah, that would be Pearl Jam

ricero

kasabian have some lovely b sides like caught in her mind - a wonderful tune relaxing and stay away from the brown acid and julie and the mothman both superb

zimovain

Solve My Mystery was one left in the vaults that only surfaced on bootlegs. Baffling!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfUmpP6mv7w

FUNKY LOVER

ocean colour scene have great B-sides too.

zimovain

FUNKY LOVER wrote: »

ocean colour scene have great B-sides too.

Yep, that b-sides album has some good tracks (runs to dig it out)

G-Money

I've always liked this song, another one that causes you to say "Why wasn't that the single/on the album?"

Same goes for Stay Young, the B-side of D'you what I mean.

m@cc@

Excellent song. But it's no secret that many of Oasis' best songs are their B-Sides. That's the treat for the fans.

G-Money

I still remember buying Some Might Say on cd single, the B-sides were Acquiesce, Talk Tonight and Headshrinker. Not mad pushed on Headshrinker, but Talk Tonight and Acquiesce are amazing tracks.

They went and did it again when they released Wonderwall. I mean ffs, look at this for a selection of supposed B-sides:

Round Are Way
The Swamp Song
The Masterplan

All three are great tunes.

zimovain

Masterplan ............. Amazing! Such a epic lighters in the air classic.

G-Money

I always liked this live version of the Masterplan. The live horn section makes it sound better I think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdvqss4S_-I

antomorro-sei

Full On is a b-side to Sunday Morning Call. Great tune that methinks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KX7PKBv2PU

zimovain

antomorro-sei wrote: »

Full On is a b-side to Sunday Morning Call. Great tune that methinks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KX7PKBv2PU

Id love to have heard Liam sing it!

Spiritoftheseventies

Xavi6 wrote: »

I bought the 'Go Let It Out' single purely for this song. Fantastic tune and easily one of their best, if not the best, between 1996 and now.

You could be right. IMO they went dowhill after the second album. Anything post 96 was ordinary enough. Look at link below. Post 96 and pre 96. The difference is there for all to see.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oasis_discography

zimovain

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

You could be right. IMO they went dowhill after the second album. Anything post 96 was ordinary enough. Look at link below. Post 96 and pre 96. The difference is there for all to see.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oasis_discography

Im a die hard so I'm biased but I love their post 1997 work as much as the first 3 albums. One thing they couldn't match was their b-side output. A classic in 'Let's All Make..' and a few other gems but the b-sides from 2000 on can't hold a candle to the golden b-side era of 1994-97.

Spiritoftheseventies

zimovain wrote: »

Im a die hard so I'm biased but I love their post 1997 work as much as the first 3 albums. One thing they couldn't match was their b-side output. A classic in 'Let's All Make..' and a few other gems but the b-sides from 2000 on can't hold a candle to the golden b-side era of 1994-97.

Do folks seriously thinks Oasis B sides stand up against the Smiths though. Thats a very big claim to be making.

antomorro-sei

zimovain wrote: »

Id love to have heard Liam sing it!

Indeed. Smashing tune methinks though

zimovain wrote: »

Im a die hard so I'm biased but I love their post 1997 work as much as the first 3 albums.

Agreed. I absolutely love Don't Believe The Truth, SOTSOG, Heathen Chemistry and Dig Out Your Soul.

gustavo

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Do folks seriously thinks Oasis B sides stand up against the Smiths though. Thats a very big claim to be making.

Where were the Smiths mentioned?

Spiritoftheseventies

Search tool a great facility on here :rolleyes:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=64903995&highlight=Smiths#post64903995

gustavo

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Search tool a great facility on here :rolleyes:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=64903995&highlight=Smiths#post64903995

Would help then if you had quoted that post rather than a post that didn't mention it at all



and here is a emoticon expression derision just for you too

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supersaint3

what about (I got) the fever off stand by me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8erBBbZD3s

Totally rocking tune, great driving song, " as I soar..." is a great refrain.

And Flashbax, think it was on all around the world? Be here now era b-sides are top notch too.

Have a soft spot for won't let you down too, have to admit I stopped buying singles after heathen chemistry. I did watch an interview with liam the other day where he says the new band is going to go back to the basics with b sides etc i'll link it here

http://www.411mania.com/music/news/138554/%5BVIDEO%5D-Liam-Gallagher-Talks-About-Oasis-Split,-New-Album-&-More.htm

sorry i'm not great with linking

thelastpartizan

Step Out was a fantastic b-side aswell and was on the tracklist as track 5 on Morning Glory but was pulled after Stevie Wonders label claimed the chorus sounded like 1 of his songs "Uptight Alright" or something like that. Hey Now wasn't a bad 1 to replace it with though.

As for the later b-sides Liams "Won't let you down" was a good acoustic sing it at a house party kind of song I think it was on Lyla.

Let's all make believe was an overlooked classic though and the other song on go let it out, cigarettes in hell wasn't bad either.

zimovain

Really llike 'Won't Let You Down' I wonder what Beatles song Liam was listening to when he wrote it? This perhaps!?!?:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lwzzln1WIk

Spiritoftheseventies

supersaint3 wrote: »

what about (I got) the fever off stand by me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8erBBbZD3s

Totally rocking tune, great driving song, " as I soar..." is a great refrain.

And Flashbax, think it was on all around the world? Be here now era b-sides are top notch too.

Have a soft spot for won't let you down too, have to admit I stopped buying singles after heathen chemistry. I did watch an interview with liam the other day where he says the new band is going to go back to the basics with b sides etc i'll link it here

http://www.411mania.com/music/news/138554/%5BVIDEO%5D-Liam-Gallagher-Talks-About-Oasis-Split,-New-Album-&-More.htm

sorry i'm not great with linking

Sounds a bit like this

But at least they are imitating one of their own songs and this is one of their best ones

zimovain

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Sounds a bit like this

But at least they are imitating one of their own songs and this is one of their best ones

Always a belter live as well, shame Liam usually never sang the second verse thats on the studio version. Stunning performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zixWZBWSt_w

blastman

'Rocking Chair' (b-side of 'Roll With It') was what alerted me to the fact that it was worth buying Oasis' singles as well as their albums. I proceeded to buy them all after that!

antomorro-sei

Dunno if this list has been posted before, but...

"Acquiesce" 1995 Noel Gallagher "Some Might Say" (single)/The Masterplan
"Alive (8-track Demo)" 1994 Noel Gallagher "Shakermaker" (single)
"Angel Child" (Demo) 1997 Noel Gallagher "D'You Know What I Mean?" (single)
"(As Long as They've Got) Cigarettes in Hell" 2000 Noel Gallagher "Go Let It Out" (single)
"Carry Us All" 2000 Noel Gallagher "Sunday Morning Call" (single)
"Cloudburst" 1994 Noel Gallagher "Live Forever" (single)
"D'yer Wanna Be a Spaceman?" 1994 Noel Gallagher "Shakermaker" (single)
"Eyeball Tickler" 2005 Gem Archer "Lyla" (single)
"Fade Away" 1994 Noel Gallagher "Cigarettes & Alcohol" (single)/The Masterplan
"The Fame" 1998 Noel Gallagher "All Around the World" (single)
"Flashbax" 1998 Noel Gallagher "All Around the World" (single)
"Full On" 2000 Noel Gallagher "Sunday Morning Call" (single)
"Going Nowhere" 1997 Noel Gallagher "Stand by Me" (single)/The Masterplan
"Half the World Away" 1994 Noel Gallagher "Whatever" (single)/The Masterplan
"Headshrinker" 1995 Noel Gallagher "Some Might Say" (single)/The Masterplan
"(I Got) the Fever" 1997 Noel Gallagher "Stand by Me" (single)
"I Will Believe" [Live] 1994 Noel Gallagher "Supersonic" (single)
"Idler's Dream" 2002 Noel Gallagher "The Hindu Times" (single)
"It's Better People" 1995 Noel Gallagher "Roll with It" (single)
"(It's Good) to Be Free" 1994 Noel Gallagher "Whatever" (single)/The Masterplan
"Just Getting Older" 2002 Noel Gallagher "The Hindu Times" (single)
"Let's All Make Believe" 2000 Noel Gallagher Standing on the Shoulder of Giants (Japanese CD only)/"Go Let It Out" (single)
"Listen Up" 1994 Noel Gallagher "Cigarettes & Alcohol" (single)/The Masterplan
"The Masterplan" 1995 Noel Gallagher "Wonderwall" (single)/The Masterplan
"My Sister Lover" 1997 Noel Gallagher "Stand by Me" (single)
"One Way Road" 2000 Noel Gallagher "Who Feels Love?" (single)
"Pass Me Down the Wine" 2005 Liam Gallagher "The Importance of Being Idle" (single)
"The Quiet Ones" 2005 Gem Archer "The Importance of Being Idle" (single)
"Rockin' Chair" 1995 Noel Gallagher/C. Griffiths "Roll with It" (single)/The Masterplan/"Wonderwall" EP
"Round Are Way" 1995 Noel Gallagher "Wonderwall" (single)
"Sad Song" 1994 Noel Gallagher Definitely Maybe (vinyl + Japanese CD only)/"Don't Go Away" (Japanese single)
"Shout It Out Loud" 2002 Noel Gallagher "Stop Crying Your Heart Out" (single)
"Sittin' Here in Silence (On My Own)" 2005 Noel Gallagher Don't Believe the Truth (Japanese CD only)/"Let There Be Love" (single)
"Stay Young" 1997 Noel Gallagher "D'You Know What I Mean?" (single)/The Masterplan
"Step Out" 1996 Noel Gallagher/Stevie Wonder/Henry Cosby/Sylvia Moy "Don't Look Back in Anger" (single)
"The Swamp Song" 1995 Noel Gallagher "Wonderwall" (single)/The Masterplan
"Take Me Away" 1994 Noel Gallagher "Supersonic" (single)
"Talk Tonight" 1995 Noel Gallagher "Some Might Say" (single)/The Masterplan
"Thank You for the Good Times" 2002 Andy Bell "Stop Crying Your Heart Out" (single)
"Underneath the Sky" 1996 Noel Gallagher "Don't Look Back in Anger" (single)/The Masterplan
"Won't Let You Down" 2005 Liam Gallagher "Lyla" (single)

JerryHandbag

Pass Me Down the Wine is another cracking b side

zimovain

One Way Road is another I love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBmCNmHeT1M

Xavi6

15 years on I still can't believe that 'Acquiesce' was only a b-side.

Spiritoftheseventies

Yes will agree with you on that one Xavi6. A terrific effort. Would definitely put it ahead of the song listed in OP

Cypher_sounds

oasis wonderwall is g.o.a.t

thelastpartizan

zimovain wrote: »

One Way Road is another I love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBmCNmHeT1M

You should check out Paul Wellers version of that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtTkST_8uDI

zimovain

thelastpartizan wrote: »

You should check out Paul Wellers version of that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtTkST_8uDI

Can't stand his version!! I do like his duet on Talk Tonight though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxvN-xUmhFM

Saganist

This one was pretty darn good too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytP5YzFgRUY

They had soooo many good b-sides its quite unreal actually..

strobe

Xavi6 wrote: »

15 years on I still can't believe that 'Acquiesce' was only a b-side.

15 years :eek:????? Dear God you just made me feel old man.

aDeener

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4GZVxf0RK4

spider guardian

I remember a few years back Q magazine had a feature where they listed out songs that nobody had ever heard of by great bands. Lets All Make Believe was one of them. Truly great song with a brilliant vocal performance by Liam.

All of the Standing On The Shoulder of Giants-era tracks seem to have been forgotten, but now and again I like to throw on Go Let It Out and Roll It Over, the latter is psychedelic brilliance with a nice two-piece choir thrown in!

Was brilliant when Noel Gallagher played Rockin Chair live at the teenage cancer trust a couple of months ago, been waiting years for that song to be played live again!

Spiritoftheseventies

You wonder why they havent released an album of b sides or out takes. or maybe it was put forward and one of the brothers objected. again.

spider guardian

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

You wonder why they havent released an album of b sides or out takes. or maybe it was put forward and one of the brothers objected. again.

'The Masterplan' B-side compilation was released in 1998, quality album. Some b-sides were included on the 'Stop The Clocks' best-of in 2007. Noel Gallagher has talked before about "opening up the vault" and releasing loads of demos etc but nothing has been heard on that since

antomorro-sei

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

You wonder why they havent released an album of b sides or out takes. or maybe it was put forward and one of the brothers objected. again.

The Masterplan is a B-Side Album

zimovain

I can see B-side collection coming out at some stage, we already have 'Time Flies' out in a few weeks so a new b-side collection is not far away.

Spiritoftheseventies

Very sad how it turned out in the end, there were a lot of personnel changes in the band. Of the five who started out, only the Gallaghers remained.
Again for me, that beatles obsession which started popping up on second album was when it started to go a bit pear shaped.
Who knows maybe they outgrew the sound of Definitely Maybe but I think they just deviated too much.
Same thing happened with JAMC who were also on Creation records. They never were able to live up to the expectations of Pyschocandy.

antomorro-sei

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Very sad how it turned out in the end, there were a lot of personnel changes in the band. Of the five who started out, only the Gallaghers remained.
Again for me, that beatles obsession which started popping up on second album was when it started to go a bit pear shaped.
Who knows maybe they outgrew the sound of Definitely Maybe but I think they just deviated too much.

The Beatles obsession started from the very start! Listen to "Up In The Sky" from Definitely Maybe, and then listen to "Rain" by The Beatles, which is on the Past Masters album.