Pope's exorcist blames the Devil for abuse.

Michaelrsh

Apparently the Pope's top exorcist is blamming Satan for the abuses that happened in the catholic church.

The Catholic Church's top exorcist has warned that Satan is alive and well and causing a whole load of problems at the Holy See.

Father Gabriele Amorth, who according to The Times is president of honour of the Association of Exorcists, said the Vatican's current problems - including recurrent child abuse allegations and a brewing gay prostitution scandal - can be largely attributed to Lucifer's visitation at the Vatican.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/11/vatican_exorcist/

I laughed when I read this, how much more pathetic can the church be, anything so they can wiggle their way out of accepting responsibility.

bleg

alternate reality

lalee17

Yep, evil stuff, that Satin.

Nodin

lalee17 wrote: »

Yep, evil stuff, that Satin.

I'd say they like the feel of it under their cassocks....the dirty feckers....

GLaDOS

Well if you believe in the devil, as the church does, this is a perfectly reasonable explanation. The problem being, it's all a bit silly.

General Zod

Knights of columbanus in white satin

Mrmoe

lalee17 wrote: »

Yep, evil stuff, that Satin.

Is it just me or is anybody else turn on by that picture.:o

The Pontiac

Don't you know there ain't no devil, it's just god when he's drunk.

DingChavez

You were expecting an exorcist not to blame the Devil for evil?

L.Jenkins

Maybe I should use that excuse the next them I get in trouble. The devil did it!

Pete M.

Ara jaysus now come on, I mean Who else could have done it?

God? No way , not his style.

:rolleyes:

orourkeda

Mrmoe wrote: »

Is it just me or is anybody else turn on by that picture.:o

I got a stiffy

The_Kew_Tour

I blame the priests who abused the Children really.

peasant

The devil has sort of been part and parcel of the whole "god" deal for 2000 + years. Do you think that they're gonna give up on him, now that he comes in a such a convenient scapegoat ?

Also, just for the record ...before the current pope became pope, as cardinal Ratzinger, he was head of this little department for a good while;

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith , previously known as the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Roman and Universal Inquisition

so you wouldn't really expect HIM to to re-write the modus operandi of the catholic church, now would you?

OutlawPete

FINALLY, now this song actually makes sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lazdg-eqmQ

Stephentlig

Michaelrsh wrote: »

Apparently the Pope's top exorcist is blamming Satin for the abuses that happen in the catholic church.



http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/11/vatican_exorcist/

I laughed when I read this, how much more pathetic can the church be, anything so they can wiggle their way out of accepting responsibility.

Us Catholics believe that when we commit a sin that we are to blame but it was done under the sinister influence of the devil.

for example, in the garden of Eden when God asked why they ate of the fruit they blamed the devil and because of their refusal to take responsability for their own actions were thus thrown out of the garden of Eden.

when a priest attributes evil actions to Satan he is blaming him for his evil influence not for the commiting the sin, but of course only Catholics who are educated in that area will see it that way.

Pax Christi
Stephen

mailrewop

well the devil is horny

Michaelrsh

lalee17 wrote: »

Yep, evil stuff, that Satin.

Ahh Hell! I finally get this ... lol. The clock is running slow today.

Fear Uladh

The devil? Or the super devil?

admiralofthefleet

typical catholic cult crap

nibtrix

hang on a minute... the pope's top exorcist?!?! How many exorcists does he have? Why does he even need one??

Stephentlig wrote: »

Us Catholics believe that when we commit a sin that we are to blame but it was done under the sinister influence of the devil.

"Us Catholics" - when were you elected spokesperson?

Biggins

Pope's exorcist blames the Devil for abuse.

Ok! Thats the final straw - thats my dad he's talking about!
He's in for it now. :mad:

Galvasean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EJ4QJKczt8

Run_to_da_hills

No surprise, the Pope is Satans leading servent on Earth.

"Vicarius Fili Del" translates to "Substitute Son of God", a title found on his hat.

Add up the letters in Roman numerals :eek:

Jesus Wept

I knew it was Satan! Even when it was the bears, I knew it was Satan.

Darlughda

So instead of looking within and recognising the potential for evil with in each of us, (not that decent people go around abusing children), another pathetic excuse is being trumped up by the Vatican. (Which possibly has to be one of the most evil institutions on this planet.)

Oh great, so goodness comes from god and evil comes from bad ole' satan. cop out.

Not good enough, true responsiblity is admitting each paedophile's individual responsiblity and quit trying to hide under the church's extensive reach and abusing people's spiritual faith.

Biggins

Credit where it is due again!
Here is one religious person whom I can have respect for.

Cardinal Christoph Schönborn,

A cardinal seen as a future candidate for the papacy has broken a Vatican taboo by raising the possibility that priestly celibacy is among the causes of the sex abuse scandal sweeping the Roman Catholic Church.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article7058065.ece

bonerm

Michaelrsh wrote: »

Apparently the Pope's top exorcist is blamming Satan for the abuses that happened in the catholic church.

Other well-known celebrities have backed claims that this Satan character is behind the abuse.

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jd007

I wonder if I murdered someone, would I get away with saying it was the devil?


Hmmm, only one way to find out! :pac:

Intothesea

Biggins wrote: »

A cardinal seen as a future candidate for the papacy has broken a Vatican taboo by raising the possibility that priestly celibacy is among the causes of the sex abuse scandal sweeping the Roman Catholic Church.

Looks like the Church is finally acknowledging its back-against-the-wall position in what is most probably a calculated admission. I'd love to know what his take is on other causes. Will likely have to wait until the devil interferes with European-area celibacy law reformulation to hear more :pac:

randylonghorn

Michaelrsh wrote: »

Apparently the Pope's top exorcist is blamming Satan for the abuses that happened in the catholic church.
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I laughed when I read this, how much more pathetic can the church be, anything so they can wiggle their way out of accepting responsibility.

Tbh, I doubt the Pope is going to be impressed:

According to The Times, Amorth blames "cardinals who do not believe in Jesus, and bishops who are linked to the Demon".

"When one speaks of 'the smoke of Satan' [a phrase coined by Pope Paul VI in 1972] in the holy rooms, it is all true – including these latest stories of violence and paedophilia," he said.

While the church would happily allude to the influence of Satan / evil in such matters as paedophile priests, they don't tend to trot out actual demonic possession as an excuse any more, and haven't for centuries.

The implication that members of his Curia are atheist and / or possessed will not sit well with Benny, I guarantee you!

Expect "the Pope's top exorcist" to be forcibly retired very quickly!

Duggy747

Heh, I'll start my stopwatch on how long this "exorcist" keeps his post.

Still, though, he has some nerve to say that. I'd love to see him personally say that to every victim's face.

I think the devil is getting a bad rep, he hasn't killed as many people as God, loves rock music, drugs, and sex. :pac:

Xluna

Satan is the ultimate scapegoat it seems. First it was the gays,then it was the atheists now its the devil.FFS can't they just accept any personal responisibility?

FunGoose

Wonderful news! It's the fault of Lucifer, that's great to hear, and there was me blaming the rapists for raping those poor innocent children. I never think things through properly, I really must work on that. I hadn't even considered that devil fella to be honest -Tempting those poor lonely priests with those chirpy childrens lovely botties, as if God would do something like that, it has the Devil written all over it!
I'm so glad that it's all finally been cleared up -and without anyone having to apologise too -bonus!

Great! I'm off to mass now...

MaybeLogic

The Devil's probably embarrassed to be associated with the likes of these scumbags.

yoshytoshy

Religous people ,they'll believe anything :pac::D

hooradiation

Now, my theology isn't what it used to be, buuuuut.

As i understand it, the Devil doesn't make you do anything, he just tempts you into doing things but he can't actually cause any action. That's all you.
Seeing as we all have free will and all that.

So, from a strictly religious point of view it makes sense. The individual priests that are guilty are responsible for their own actions but the fact that they did them would be seen as proof that the devil is still around.

Not really all that shocking.

inode

^facepalm

hooradiation

inode wrote: »

^facepalm

Care to fucking explain why?

MaybeLogic

hooradiation wrote: »

Care to fucking explain why?

The Devil made him do it.

hooradiation

MaybeLogic wrote: »

The Devil made him do it.

No, i'm pretty sure he didn't need tempting into being that banal.

Yeah, i can see this is going to be one long clusterfuck of stupid.

MaybeLogic

hooradiation wrote: »

Yeah, i can see this is going to be one long clusterfuck of stupid.

Wait till the Anti-Jakkass gets here.

faceman

Biggins wrote: »

Credit where it is due again!
Here is one religious person whom I can have respect for.

Cardinal Christoph Schönborn,

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article7058065.ece

TBH, i think this is a cop out excuse. A vow of celibacy does not make someone a child abuser or rapist. Nobody is forced to become a priest (not anymore anyway)

Regarding exorcisms, we have two official exorcists in Ireland. One of which is quite active and is considering a leader in the field. Im involved in a film on the topic and the team met the priest. A humbling experience. He does lectures in some of our colleges and has written a book. The stories he had would make the hair stand on your neck. the director of the film has starting going back to mass since talking to him! :eek:

CrazyRabbit

I think this 'exorcist' has it right.

'Evil' is just a term for used by ignorant people to describe mental illness, and I think there are many mentally ill people in the Vatican & church.

Fratton Fred

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

I think this 'exorcist' has it right.

'Evil' is just a term for used by ignorant people to describe mental illness, and I think there are many mentally ill people in the Vatican & church.

Its not their fault, if you hadn't emptied your nuts in 40 years you'd be going mental as well!

dvpower

Mrmoe wrote: »

Is it just me or is anybody else turn on by that picture.:o

That'd be the devil working through you right there.

dvpower

According to The Times, Amorth blames "cardinals who do not believe in Jesus, and bishops who are linked to the Demon".

We all do a bit of bluffing in our jobs, but thats pretty impressive.

Columbia

If South Park were doing an episode (okay, another episode...) taking the peas out of the Catholic Church, then this devil line is exactly what you'd expect to hear.

They are becoming a parody of themselves at this point.

DrumSteve

Gabriele Amorth? He sounds like a black metal band