'Twilight: Eclipse': All discussion here

Basq

Directed by David Slade who previously directed 'Hard Candy' and '30 Days of Night'! :eek: Christ, you've certainly dropped in my estimations!

What a great trailer! *

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2HIda5wSVU

* JK... JK.. JK.. JK.. it's a piece of shít!

Hogzy

"im going to fight for you till your heart stops beating"

Sh\te like this is making it harder for guys to get women, Because some women actually think that men speak this crap!

Basq

Hogzy wrote: »

"im going to fight for you till your heart stops beating"

Sh\te like this is making it harder for guys to get women, Because some women actually think that men speak this crap!

To be fair.. I've used that line in Coppers at least 8 times!

Cha-ching - always works!

podgemonster

basquille wrote: »

To be fair.. I've used that line in Coppers at least 8 times!

Cha-ching - always works!

U dont even need lines for the female clientele of Coppers, a smile a wink and then 'lob the gob'!

oh ya Twlight sucks! Even read the books, (was stuck for books) and they suck too!

Nevyn

They are horrendous, pretty much 21st century mills and boons shíte.

TheIrishGrover

Why.
are.
they.
talking.
so.
slow.
?

Peyton Manning

I actually quite enjoyed the first one, but I honestly thought someone was taking the piss in the second one. Its nothing but montages of Bella crying, Jacob with his shirt off and Edward looking constipated. Im not even joking, towards the end a scene came on with Bella imagining her and Edward running through a field of flowers or something similar, and I wasn't the only one in the cinema who laughed out loud at how ludicrous it was. Probably the change in director, or realising that Twilight fanboys/geeks in particular lap up the emo soppy stuff.

banshee_bones

The films are pretty awful alright, some very cringeworthy stuff in them, however that 90 second clip does depict it as a slightly darker film than the last two...

JP Liz V1

Is this the last one in the series?

Nevyn

Something can be dark and dire and crap, I've watched enough 'dark' movies to know that.

banshee_bones

No, theres one more book left which is going to be made into two films, doing a Harry potter on it because its the biggest book in the series

banshee_bones

Thaedydal wrote: »

Something can be dark and dire and crap, I've watched enough 'dark' movies to know that.

without a doubt, i was simply suggesting it may be down to david slades influence

Teferi

banshee_bones wrote: »

No, theres one more book left which is going to be made into two films, doing a Harry potter on it because its the biggest book in the series

The last HP book isn't the biggest one.

These movies are actually alright if you don't take them too seriously. Methinks a lot of people make a big fuss about how much they hate them merely because they are so popular with preteens and the likes.

Handsome Bob

Wow, how incredibly......underwhelming. I saw New Moon, it was IMO poor, but at least they put together trailers that were done well and epic in their own little way. This on the other hand is crap, it doesn't make me want to see it, which I suppose is a good thing. Can't believe this is the same dude who did Hard Candy and 30 Days of Night, I wonder how big the truck was that they sent to his house.

banshee_bones

Teferi wrote: »

The last HP book isn't the biggest one.

I was referring to them doing a HP on it by making the last one into two films. It just also happens to be the biggest book in the twilight series which factors in aswell.

The Black Oil

Not of a smidgen of acting in there, then.

Alicat

Super crap trailer!

I don't get it, Eclipse has the best fighting scenes in the books and they showed nothing of it in the trailer. Even New Moon looked more exciting and there turned out to be very little action in that one.

Hope it's not gonna be too sappy :mad: I liked the first three books but these movies seem to be making a balls of them.

Galvasean

Alicat wrote: »

Super crap trailer!

I don't get it, Eclipse has the best fighting scenes in the books and they showed nothing of it in the trailer. Even New Moon looked more exciting and there turned out to be very little action in that one.

Indeed. The trailer's 'big action setpiece' was someone jumping across a small ravine.
Awfully melodramatic acting. Is it just me or have they hammed it up another level this time around?

Alicat

Galvasean wrote: »

Indeed. The trailer's 'big action setpiece' was someone jumping across a small ravine.
Awfully melodramatic acting. Is it just me or have they hammed it up another level this time around?

It seems super hammy

Feck it I thought David Spade was gonna shake it up!

However maybe they kept the first trailer focused on the 'romance' thinking it's the thing that the Twi-hards are drawn too and it was just to get the screeching again, get the hysteria back up. Maybe a more generally released trailer closer to the time might involve a bit more of the action.

Maybe :pac:

banshee_bones

Alicat wrote: »

It seems super hammy

Feck it I thought David Spade was gonna shake it up!

However maybe they kept the first trailer focused on the 'romance' thinking it's the thing that the Twi-hards are drawn too and it was just to get the screeching again, get the hysteria back up. Maybe a more generally released trailer closer to the time might involve a bit more of the action.

Maybe :pac:

I think the twi-hards are freaking that slade is guna turn it into some kind of an action gore fest given his history! :pac: so i think the trailer is to placate them and show them he hasnt taken the romance element out of it...?

Alicat

banshee_bones wrote: »

I think the twi-hards are freaking that slade is guna turn it into some kind of an action gore fest given his history! :pac: so i think the trailer is to placate them and show them he hasnt taken the romance element out of it...?

Haha! Maybe!

I like the series but I want some action!

Anakin.S

Twilight hits its target audience perfectly. I'll not go watch it but my cousins daughter will watch it at least 5 times in the cinema, then buy the DVD, then the Blu-Ray...

Only good thing is she is on 'Team Jacob'

Handsome Bob

Anakin.S wrote: »

Twilight hits its target audience perfectly. I'll not go watch it but my cousins daughter will watch it at least 5 times in the cinema, then buy the DVD, then the Blu-Ray...

Only good thing is she is on 'Team Jacob'

The only good thing would be if she was on "Team Fcuk off and die the both of you."

Galvasean

Anakin.S wrote: »

Only good thing is she is on 'Team Jacob'

Ah sure he's 18 now so it's all coisir.

Mink

Wow that trailer is really really terrible. I'll bet they'll change it with all the inevitable bad feedback.

Granted I haven't seen the movie but I still think they should have kept Rachelle on for the role of Victoria. Bryce Dallas-Howard doesn't look threatening in the slightest. At least Rachelle seemed a bit nuts

Alicat

LZ5by5 wrote: »

The only good thing would be if she was on "Team Fcuk off and die the both of you."

Oh hush LZ

Galvasean wrote: »

Ah sure he's 18 now so it's all coisir.

I don't feel quite so bad pervin' on him now

Mink wrote: »

Granted I haven't seen the movie but I still think they should have kept Rachelle on for the role of Victoria. Bryce Dallas-Howard doesn't look threatening in the slightest. At least Rachelle seemed a bit nuts

She is nuts apparently! I heard two reasons why they fired her. One was that she was nuts and was causing trouble and the other was that it conflicted with some other movie she was making. Dunno if one or both are true

Jazzy

you could cure a lot of the worlds problems by turning screens in cinemas that show twilight into gas chambers

Orlaladuck

LMAO Jazzy that's a bit harsh! But it is a very very very flawed book/film =/.
Seriously, can a twilight fan Honestly tell me what is so amazing about it?!

Alicat

Jazzy wrote: »

you could cure a lot of the worlds problems by turning screens in cinemas that show twilight into gas chambers

:pac:

Orlaladuck wrote: »

LMAO Jazzy that's a bit harsh! But it is a very very very flawed book/film =/.
Seriously, can a twilight fan Honestly tell me what is so amazing about it?!

I just like it Don't have a particular reason, it's a mindless fantasy series that I find entertaining

Handsome Bob

Yeah Jazzy, jesus, I only went to New Moon so my petty criticism of the franchise would be actually informed. :pac:

Professey Chin

I cant believe I just watched that

UNCLEAN....UNCLEAN!!!

Galvasean

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Yeah Jazzy, jesus, I only went to New Moon so my petty criticism of the franchise would be actually informed chicks would like totally dig me and stuff.

FYP

amacachi

Orlaladuck wrote: »

Seriously, can a twilight fan Honestly tell me what is so amazing about it?!

To quote some people I overheard in college about the last one, who looked in their 20s;
"OMG he's so hot! How is he so ripped and he's only 16?"
"He has his top off the whole time!"
I had to leave the room it was getting so humid.

Galvasean

New trailer

Diddy Kong

Galvasean wrote: »

New trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CScK6D3KROM

JP Liz V1

*snip*

Will it beat Avatar's box office gross :rolleyes:

Handsome Bob

It will see a sharp fall off after the first week or two, just like New Moon did.

paddyismaddy

oh god another one already

pocketvenus

I actually got to see this early in the US on the premiere night and I have to admit it was actually quiet good.

All credit to David Slade he did a great job with the action scenes and the CGI is a hell of a lot better than New Moon. Credit to the actors who play the 7 Cullens who did alot of their own stunts apparently and it makes all the differences to the action sequences.

I think it will do pretty well here and may the only film of the 5 that guys actually will grudgeingly admit to liking. The two guys who went with us are not fans at all but did admit the film wasn't half bad.

Richard Dower

If i had any spare hair left i'd pull it out!!!!!!

Serious, this Twilight crap is sending me half bonkers!...if any swooney girls come in talking crap i'm gonna lose the plot!

jjjade

probably a bit late but just noticed that there are still tixs in dundrum for the midnight show. few front row ones


http://www.onlinecinematickets.com/index.php?s=M-DUNDRUM&p=details&eventCode=5654

L'prof

jjjade wrote: »

probably a bit late but just noticed that there are still tixs in dundrum for the midnight show. few front row ones


http://www.onlinecinematickets.com/index.php?s=M-DUNDRUM&p=details&eventCode=5654

Dang it, thought you meant this!

Alicat

4 out of 5 stars from Empire Australia...

Eclipse Review

Alicat

Alicat wrote: »

4 out of 5 stars from Empire Australia...

Eclipse Review

4 stars from Empire means very little these days, much like Harry Knowles give them a free mug and you can pretty much guarantee a glowing review. It's garnering pretty average reviews from the majority of critics though the consensus seems to be that it's not nearly as bad as the last one.

Roger Ebert's review is great and he manages to pretty much sum up the entire franchise in one paragraph

Much leads up to a scene in a tent on a mountaintop in the midst of a howling blizzard, when Bella’s teeth start chattering. Obviously a job for the hot-blooded Jacob and not the cold-blooded Edward, and as Jacob embraces and warms her, he and Edward have a cloying cringe fest in which Edward admits that if Jacob were not a werewolf, he would probably like him, and then Jacob admits that if Edward were not a vampire — well, no, no, he couldn’t. Come on, big guy. The two of you are making eye contact. Edward’s been a confirmed bachelor for 109 years. Get in the brokeback spirit.

Willbbz

Inb4 Robert Patersons vagina

Alicat

Deleted User wrote: »

4 stars from Empire means very little these days, much like Harry Knowles give them a free mug and you can pretty much guarantee a glowing review. It's garnering pretty average reviews from the majority of critics though the consensus seems to be that it's not nearly as bad as the last one.

Roger Ebert's review is great and he manages to pretty much sum up the entire franchise in one paragraph

I knew somebody would pipe up saying "Sure Empire's reviews are nothing blah blah blah...", should have known it would be you first!

And that paragraph from a 'review' is just a dig, nothing informative at all in regards to the movie or the franchise. He doesn't get the whole thing, so just decides to make a joke of it all. Hardly a worthwhile read! He gave Brokeback Mountain a really good review (defending it against the 'gay cowboy movie' jibes), then completely ignores it/forgets about his own opinion just to get a dig in at Twilight. Is he a man or a childish teenager?

I'm surprised he didn't finish his 'review' with "Twilight is gay!" scrawled at the end.

Alicat

Alicat wrote: »

I knew somebody would pipe up saying "Sure Empire's reviews are nothing blah blah blah...", should have known it would be you first!

But Empire's reviews are widely inconsistent with many of the poorer summer blockbusters of recent years getting glowing reviews from Empire. The 5 stars Attack of the Clones review, etc, etc. There was a time when Empire was a respectable enough publication but once they started believing their own hype "The worlds best film magazine" any element of journalistic integrity went out the window as they ran about looking for famous people to guest edit their magazine.

Alicat wrote: »

And that paragraph from a 'review' is just a dig, nothing informative at all in regards to the movie or the franchise. He doesn't get the whole thing, so just decides to make a joke of it all. Hardly a worthwhile read! He gave Brokeback Mountain a really good review (defending it against the 'gay cowboy movie' jibes), then completely ignores it/forgets about his own opinion just to get a dig in at Twilight. Is he a man or a childish teenager?

I'm surprised he didn't finish his 'review' with "Twilight is gay!" scrawled at the end.

I think that perhaps Ebert picked up on the main thrust of the franchise, angsty relationships between three people who were it not for their differences would all get along. I also don't see why he can't make a joke utilising a phrase which has entered pop culture, just because he liked and defended the film it originated from.

Plus what is there to get, it's not as if the franchise is bubbling over with hidden meanings and subtleties. The only reason the latest film is garnering anything but a critical slating is because of David Slade, shame that he wasnt allowed to bring some fo the red stuff from his superb 30 Days of Night over with him.

The problem with the Twilight franchise is that the fans are so rabid that anyone who disagrees with them is instantly wrong. They're not like normal fans, even the most rabid Harry Potter fan will find numerous faults with the films but Twilight fans seem incapable of finding any, even the strained acting is applauded by them.

Alicat

Deleted User wrote: »

But Empire's reviews are widely inconsistent with many of the poorer summer blockbusters of recent years getting glowing reviews from Empire. The 5 stars Attack of the Clones review, etc, etc. There was a time when Empire was a respectable enough publication but once they started believing their own hype "The worlds best film magazine" any element of journalistic integrity went out the window as they ran about looking for famous people to guest edit their magazine.

I never said it was the bible, merely using it as an example that not everyone is slating this movie, as they did with New Moon. Given all the bad press that the franchise gets from 'respectable reviewers' (which is bullshit anyway :rolleyes:), I was surprised to see a four star review.

I also don't see why he can't make a joke utilising a phrase which has entered pop culture, just because he liked and defended the film it originated from.

But what's the purpose of it? I find most Brokeback Mountain 'gay' jokes childish. Just because a load of idiots have injected the phrase and all similar references into pop culture doesn't make it funny. It just means they're idiots.

"Two men in a tent....how can I make a joke of that?...Oh yes I remember another movie with two men in a tent and they were gay...ergo I shall call Twilight characters gay! Aren't I so original?"

I don't mind that he doesn't like the series. Why would I? He is totally entitled to his own opinion, obviously. I just don't like the spitefulness that shines through in his reviews.

Plus what is there to get, it's not as if the franchise is bubbling over with hidden meanings and subtleties. The only reason the latest film is garnering anything but a critical slating is because of David Slade, shame that he wasnt allowed to bring some fo the red stuff from his superb 30 Days of Night over with him.

I wasn't implying that there were any hidden meanings in Twilight. He is just totally blinded by his hate of the franchise that he doesn't have a single good word to say about it. In my mind, a good reviewer should be able to give a balanced review. He gives Eclipse two stars...but why not one? He doesn't even care to share his reason for the two stars. Is it Slade? If so, he never says. Two stars implies that he didn't really like it but it had some redeeming qualities. His review says otherwise.

As a Twilight hater yourself, I can see how you agree with his opinions.

The problem with the Twilight franchise is that the some fans are so rabid that anyone who disagrees with them is instantly wrong. They're not like normal fans, even the most rabid Harry Potter fan will find numerous faults with the films but some Twilight fans seem incapable of finding any, even the strained acting is applauded by them.

Totally true. It has been responsible for a new breed of obsessed fans.

Alicat

Alicat wrote: »

I never said it was the bible, merely using it as an example that not everyone is slating this movie, as they did with New Moon. Given all the bad press that the franchise gets from 'respectable reviewers' (which is bullshit anyway :rolleyes:), I was surprised to see a four star review.

True not everyone is slating the film, most are calling it mediocre. 4 stars from Empire for a summer blockbuster which gave them exclusive set visits means that the film is about a 2 on their normal radar.

"Respectable reviewers" are those who give each film an unbiased reviewed judging it on its merits and comparing it to films of its ilk.

Alicat wrote: »

But what's the purpose of it? I find most Brokeback Mountain 'gay' jokes childish. Just because a load of idiots have injected the phrase and all similar references into pop culture doesn't make it funny. It just means they're idiots.

"Two men in a tent....how can I make a joke of that?...Oh yes I remember another movie with two men in a tent and they were gay...ergo I shall call Twilight characters gay! Aren't I so original?"

I don't mind that he doesn't like the series. Why would I? He is totally entitled to his own opinion, obviously. I just don't like the spitefulness that shines through in his reviews.

Big deal, he made a gay joke about a film which involves bare cheasted men staring at one another for extended periods of time. It kinda brings it on it's self.

Ebert is one of the fairest reviewers around, he judges each film on its own merits and his star system is designed so as that watch reviews stars are in league with similar films in the genre or series. By giving Eclipse 2 stars it means that the film is better than the last one which he gave 1 star to.

Alicat wrote: »

I wasn't implying that there were any hidden meanings in Twilight. He is just totally blinded by his hate of the franchise that he doesn't have a single good word to say about it. In my mind, a good reviewer should be able to give a balanced review. He gives Eclipse two stars...but why not one? He doesn't even care to share his reason for the two stars. Is it Slade? If so, he never says. Two stars implies that he didn't really like it but it had some redeeming qualities. His review says otherwise.

As a Twilight hater yourself, I can see how you agree with his opinions.

Ebert is far from a hater, look back at his review of the first film and his review is pretty fair. He looks at the film and it's intended audience and gives a fair review. It's hard to give a balanced review and say good things about a film if there are none, I think the only good thing that could be said about part 2 was that it looked nice in places. As for part 3 I have'nt seen it yet and while I have tickets to a press screening I think I may just give it a miss and watch a real vampire film.

The reasons to hate the franchise are obvious, vapid, unoriginal novels turned into poorly made features in which long periods of screen time involve bored looking actors staring at one another as they tear their shirts off and engage in badly done CGI fights.

I'm not a fan of the Harry Potter books but do enjoy the films, simply because it's obvious just how much love and attention went into making the best possible adaptation, same goes for the Narnia films. Does anyone belive that the makers of Twilight would go to so much trouble to ensure that the franchise continued if the film underperformed at the box office?

Alicat wrote: »

Totally true. It has been responsible for a new breed of obsessed fans.

I don't think I've ever came across a fan who wasnt prepared to defend the franchise against any and all criticism.

Anakin.S

Most people don't review films from the target audience's point of view. The Twilight saga has a specific target audience that the whole series appeals to and reading reviews from people unable to understand who that target audience is and what they like is pointless.

pocketvenus

Anakin.S wrote: »

Most people don't review films from the target audience's point of view. The Twilight saga has a specific target audience that the whole series appeals to and reading reviews from people unable to understand who that target audience is and what they like is pointless.

Exactly - these films were first and foremost made for the legions of fans of the books. Once the books popularity expolded and the first film came out it brought a whole new wave of fnas to both books and movies. Ok so it does have a wide range of fans now older and younger now but mostly it is aimed at a PG-13 market as per the authors demand.

I have to admit whe I first heard the premise of the books/films I was not sure at all that I would like them but I was surprised that after reading the books and seeing the first 2 films I actually enjoyed them.

They are not putting themselves out there as the next Oscar winning pictture or the next Pultizer Prize winner. They are a bit of escapism and that is the purpose they serve.

Reviews who slate the Twilight Saga mostly do so based on their own predjuices and the fans ( not all of them but the so called Twi-hard's do themselves or the franchise no favours). Some of these reviews think Transformers are the best thing since slices bread so it just goes to show you.