600 for a timing belt change... EEK

ando

Hi,

Does €600 sound decent for a timing belt and water pump change? Car is at 57k miles and due both

It seems really steep imo but I havent got many timing belts done in the past so dunno?? I asked a local mechanic that I deal with a good bit but he said he doesnt have the tools required for the Seat Leon diesel. So I rang the local Seat dealer and they gave me a quote of 600 :O

smash

I'm sure you'll get someone to do it cheaper, but a t-belt and water pump service is usually expensive anyway.

flanzer

Go north for half the price..This crowd are supposed to be good http://www.walshmotors.co.uk/prices.html

no1beemerfan

A bit of a comparison for you. My GF's Focus II (timing belt only though!) is due its timing belt changing and I've been ringing around. Finlay's of Naas was €266 all in. I can buy the timing belt kit in my local Motor Factors for €65 and get a local mechanic to change it for around the €100 mark.

bladespin

Price can vary wildly from car to car, on the Alfa I was quoted €300 all in by the local Nissan centre, just rang because they're close, it's a simple enough job with fairly good accessability on the 156, I'm just not brave enough lol.

I've heard astro figures on the old model Passat, apparently the whole front end has to come off :eek:

no1beemerfan

bladespin wrote: »

I've heard astro figures on the old model Passat, apparently the whole front end has to come off :eek:

True :eek:. I was at a fella's when he was doing a '04 passat and it takes a few hours. He was sick of it!

johnnyfruitcake

A VW golf is around the €500 mark for timing belt and water pump plus a full service, and thats not from a main dealer

bladespin

johnnyfruitcake wrote: »

A VW golf is around the €500 mark for timing belt and water pump plus a full service, and thats not from a main dealer

Sounds very expensive (for an indy) £230 for the belt job in Walsh's, I'm sure they'd discount a full service on that if you went for both.

Gumbo

no1beemerfan wrote: »

A bit of a comparison for you. My GF's Focus II (timing belt only though!) is due its timing belt changing and I've been ringing around. Finlay's of Naas was €266 all in. I can buy the timing belt kit in my local Motor Factors for €65 and get a local mechanic to change it for around the €100 mark.

why go through all the hassle of changing the timing belt and not change the water pump etc at the same time while the head is off?
Water pump and associated pullies etc should be done with the timing belt imho.

ando

Yea I never really considered the North, with all the traveling and relying on public transport but with those kind of savings it may be worth it!

Get this, I rang two Seat dealers in Dublin within half an hour of each other.. For the exact same job there is €100 difference between the two dealers?? The more expensive being located in Baldoyle is all I'll say, the cheaper being in Blanchardstown which quoted €500 for timing belt and water pump

cabrwab

Is it a leon

I think its a pretty big job in the leon alot of labour involved.

no1beemerfan

gumbo wrote: »

why go through all the hassle of changing the timing belt and not change the water pump etc at the same time while the head is off?
Water pump and associated pullies etc should be done with the timing belt imho.

I rang 4 or 5 Ford garages, gave the reg number and all said water pump is every second timing belt. I was told its rare to change a water pump on the first change. Its a Jan 2005 car and will have approx 155,000 km when I'll get the belt done. Now you've got me wondering if it should be done when the Ford fella's had put my mind at ease :mad: !

ando

cabrwab wrote: »

Is it a leon

I think its a pretty big job in the leon alot of labour involved.

Oh right, yea its a leon fr diesel, it would be the same as a golf or a3 I reckon

JHMEG

Friend recently paid €100 to get a belt done in a Civic. Would have been an extra €120 if the water pump was included in the job.

--Kaiser--

I bought a timing belt kit (belt, tensioner and pulley) and water pump from Toyota recently, 350 notes all told. They then wanted 400 euros ( + VAT) to fit it so I got it done somewhere else for 150.

My total cost was 500, so 600 seems reasonable enough

Bodhan

See here for the price of your timing belt and pully set http://www.micksgarage.ie/autoparts.aspx?dept=278&ga=&b=31&AssemblyID=100405&MakeID=104&ModelID=5431 it ain't €600, so the labour must be rough.

BTW I have the 1.6 petrol version and I'm on the 100000km mark now, so I'm due it too.

EPM

Seat Leon 1.6 petrol. €530 for timing belt, tensioners and water pump plus a full service including courtesy car.

Seat main dealer

Bodhan

What dealer is that?

EPM wrote: »

Seat Leon 1.6 petrol. €530 for timing belt, tensioners and water pump plus a full service including courtesy car.

Seat main dealer

EPM

Cashmans in Midleton, Cork

Bodhan

EPM wrote: »

Cashmans in Midleton, Cork

Damn a bit far from me, but it looks like a decent price

TM RACING

€530 may sound expensive but how about €1650 on my old alfa 156 GTA!

bladespin

TM RACING wrote: »

€530 may sound expensive but how about €1650 on my old alfa 156 GTA!

Wow, Porters in the UK do that for £430 all in :eek:

mickdw

TM RACING wrote: »

€530 may sound expensive but how about €1650 on my old alfa 156 GTA!

I got a quote of €1400 many years ago for timing belt on a 2.0 alfa 166.

Drummerboy08

Unless its up in the years, am I the only one who thinks 57k miles is a bit early to change a belt? Thats less than 96k kilometres, and most VAG stuff is at least 128k Kms.

vw4life

bladespin wrote: »

I've heard astro figures on the old model Passat, apparently the whole front end has to come off :eek:

takes about 20 mins to half an hour to take the front end off,makes it one of the handiest belts to do,same as most Audi's;)

-Corkie-

Im getting my 07 passat diesel done soon vw main dealer is 450

JHMEG

Dunno how people think €500+ is a good price. Last time I brought a car to a main dealer it was €200 all in.

cadaliac

The VAG engine is difficult to work on (if it is transversely mounted like a passat).
The front bumper and front panel will have to come off and they always recommend that the pump and tensioners to be done at the same time. Probably due to the difficulty of the job - meaning that if a bearing, tensioner or indeed water pump was to fail, you would have a huge labour bill to change a relatively cheap part, when in fact the job could have been prevented if done with the timing belt.

bbability

no more than 300-400 euro should leave your pocket for that. Its not as difficult as it used to be on the VAGs. The kit has been modified in newer models. If you have the proper tools to do the job, 2-3 hours max for full change. Plenty of guys looking for work so shop around. Don't get tied up with main dealers, plenty of good indy's and guys looking for nixers out there...

I got full service and timing belt change on Bora for 450euro at 60k.

whiterebel

vw4life wrote: »

takes about 20 mins to half an hour to take the front end off,makes it one of the handiest belts to do,same as most Audi's;)

I presume you're taking the p*ss?

the_barfly1

Definitely go private for the job, main dealer will rip you off big time.
I had timing belt, water pump, full service and front and rear brakes done on my '01 focus last year for €400 all in.

the ford garage wanted €750 for the job :rolleyes:, and the guy that did the job used all ford parts too.

quarryman

JHMEG wrote: »

Dunno how people think €500+ is a good price. Last time I brought a car to a main dealer it was €200 all in.

I really wonder where you pull some of your prices from.

please name the dealer and the car that gave you did the job for €200.

vw4life

whiterebel wrote: »

I presume you're taking the p*ss?

not takin the piss,but it is a piece of piss.why is that a problem:eek:

_Kaiser_

cadaliac wrote: »

The VAG engine is difficult to work on (if it is transversely mounted like a passat).
The front bumper and front panel will have to come off and they always recommend that the pump and tensioners to be done at the same time. Probably due to the difficulty of the job - meaning that if a bearing, tensioner or indeed water pump was to fail, you would have a huge labour bill to change a relatively cheap part, when in fact the job could have been prevented if done with the timing belt.

+1. My old Passat (02 model) and my current one both cost about €600 to get the job done - but definitely shop around OP, as the prices I got from main dealers varied wildly. Also get prices up north as it's worth making the trip for the savings you can make.

ando

Yea I had a look up north, the parts are £105 but the labour brought it all upto €470ish after currency conversion, not really worth the travelling but I'm still looking. That place another poster was talking about in Cork doing everything, full service and courtesy car for €530 was a good deal I reckon but Cork is further away then Belfast for me!

_Kaiser_

ando wrote: »

Yea I had a look up north, the parts are £105 but the labour brought it all upto €470ish after currency conversion, not really worth the travelling but I'm still looking. That place another poster was talking about in Cork doing everything, full service and courtesy car for €530 was a good deal I reckon but Cork is further away then Belfast for me!

Try Kierans in Drogheda (VW main dealer) on the North Road - when I was looking they were the best I could get down here on a few occasions.

BronsonTB

Cost me 120 on labour to just change the belt, cost another 120 for the belt itself....This is on a celica so your quote is about right really. I'm sure you'd get a cowboy to do it cheaper but not worth it IMO....

ando

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Try Kierans in Drogheda (VW main dealer) on the North Road - when I was looking they were the best I could get down here on a few occasions.

Thanks Kaiser, they quoted €475 with waterpump, tensioners and coolant included! Best quote Ive got so far!

200motels

I got a full service and a timing belt change on a Honda Civic for 470 euro from a local mechanic, the main dealer quoted me 900 euro, no brainer really.

metzengerstein

ando wrote: »

Hi,

Does €600 sound decent for a timing belt and water pump change? Car is at 57k miles and due both

It seems really steep imo but I havent got many timing belts done in the past so dunno?? I asked a local mechanic that I deal with a good bit but he said he doesnt have the tools required for the Seat Leon diesel. So I rang the local Seat dealer and they gave me a quote of 600 :O

that sound a fair bit too steep tbh ,i had a water pump,timing belt and teiming belt tensioner all done for at least 200 less

EPM

Maybe try Skoda - they work on same oily bits but their labour rates tend to be lower

Nissan doctor

For a vag diesel(passat/a4/a6 aside) then you should be paying no more then €150 labour, anything more and your still paying over the odds/dealer prices.
Quality spurious water pump and timing belt kit would be no more then €150-200 max!


Passats/a4 etc, then the front bumper/headlights etc have to come off but doesn't take as long as some people would have you believe when you know what your at.

Bodhan

Guys, just as an update. I never got the belt done so I've been ringing around again.
Cheapest for an 06 Leon 1.6 is €320 including a loan car from Quinn Motors
Clogh Road
Castlecommer, Co. Kilkenny, nice guys to deal with too. I got the highest quote from Waters Garage in Kildare €600, not including a car!!!

EPM

Bodhan wrote: »

Guys, just as an update. I never got the belt done so I've been ringing around again.
Cheapest for an 06 Leon 1.6 is €320 including a loan car from Quinn Motors
Clogh Road
Castlecommer, Co. Kilkenny, nice guys to deal with too. I got the highest quote from Waters Garage in Kildare €600, not including a car!!!

The €320 price is a good one. Same car as me and I paid €530 including a full service.

€600 is just ridiculous