A Quote from History

Deise Tom

These may not be the exact words used, but does anyone know who once said something like this,

“I say this with reluctance; I say it simply because it is true. What is needed is a pause in incomes of all kinds. This is the present price for our future prosperity”.

Sleepy

Isn't that part of CJH's 'we are living way beyond our means' speech?

Scofflaw

I suspect that it's by Harold Macmillan, UK PM in the early 1960's, in respect of the 1961 "Pay Pause" policy.

cordially,
Scofflaw

Deise Tom

No was an Irish TD. saw a snippet on TV the other night but did not catch a name. Looked to be early 70's.

Liam Byrne

What is also needed is a pause in - and maybe even a reduction in - costs and outgoings of all kinds.

When the Greens introduce their new so-called "carbon" tax and whatever other sneaky raids they have on our wallets, it'll barely be worth driving to work!

Scofflaw

Deise Tom wrote: »

No was an Irish TD. saw a snippet on TV the other night but did not catch a name. Looked to be early 70's.

It sounded far too articulate for any modern politician!

amused,
Scofflaw

Gal_Lad

Deise Tom wrote: »

No was an Irish TD. saw a snippet on TV the other night but did not catch a name. Looked to be early 70's.

Liam Cosgrave?

jmayo

Scofflaw wrote: »

I suspect that it's by Harold Macmillan, UK PM in the early 1960's, in respect of the 1961 "Pay Pause" policy.

cordially,
Scofflaw

Well Jimmy Carter AFAIK told the Americans in 1977 that Americans were living beyond their means in terms of energy consumption and that they need to cut back.
Of course Reagan told the people what they wanted to hear and Carter, even though very smart guy was replaced by a right wing nutjob who was probably even then suffering from parkinsons.

So whoever said the above he was probably laughed at and if it was haughey then he was the one doing the laughing.

Liam Byrne wrote: »

What is also needed is a pause in - and maybe even a reduction in - costs and outgoings of all kinds.

When the Greens introduce their new so-called "carbon" tax and whatever other sneaky raids they have on our wallets, it'll barely be worth driving to work!

Driving to work ???
As friend of mine says, gormless won't be happy until we are all riding around on donkeys.

Horses probably create too much sh**e and fart too much co2.

dan_d

I don't have the answer, but it's amazing what you get when you google that phrase!!

sceptre

Please remember that someone asking about the source of a phrase is not a chance for some of you to go off on one about the current government. If you don't have something relevant and/or useful to offer and instead just warble on about government performance, consider whether the post is adding or taking from the topic. In case you're wondering dan d (as yours is the last before this one), I'm not referring to your post at all with this comment, yours is fine.

There are days when I wonder if we should just convert this place into a playground...

/mod

The Raven.

It could have been Harold Macmillan. It could also have been Selwyn Lloyd, Chancellor of the Exchequer (1960 – 1962). He introduced the infamous Pay Pause in July 1961.

It could also have been said later by someone wanting to repeat this policy.

dunsandin

A Pause on our incomes? I am so busy that we are working 16 hours a day, and loving it. I have driven 1200 kilometers to jobs in the last 48 hours, I have more work on than I can cope with, thanks be to God. What we need is a dose of reality, try working longer, harder and more in tune with the new reality of - lean, economical and productive, with no fat. I keep being told how quiet it is, how bad the economy is, how there is no work. Tell my aching arms that- the works there, if you adapt and overcome. And the incomes there too. you just have to sweat a bit and get down and dirty.:D There is too much money in the world, all just looking for a home, money is not scarce, it is everywhere, but you might have to break a nail to get it. I look like a down and out most days, that to me is the price of working really hard and earning really good money. How many are prepared to really sweat and graft?

Deise Tom

dunsandin wrote: »

A Pause on our incomes? I am so busy that we are working 16 hours a day, and loving it. I have driven 1200 kilometers to jobs in the last 48 hours, I have more work on than I can cope with, thanks be to God. What we need is a dose of reality, try working longer, harder and more in tune with the new reality of - lean, economical and productive, with no fat. I keep being told how quiet it is, how bad the economy is, how there is no work. Tell my aching arms that- the works there, if you adapt and overcome. And the incomes there too. you just have to sweat a bit and get down and dirty.:D There is too much money in the world, all just looking for a home, money is not scarce, it is everywhere, but you might have to break a nail to get it. I look like a down and out most days, that to me is the price of working really hard and earning really good money. How many are prepared to really sweat and graft?

You are dead right, there is work there for those who want work and are willing to do it. The problem in this country is that we have become so snobbish that there is some kinds of work we wont do ourselves. I would love to be able to get up in the morning and do a full days work, I would not care what it was, but physical disabilities do not allow me to do so, and when work comes around that i can do, discrimination does not allow me get an interview, despite having the relavent experiences.

baalthor

Gal_Lad wrote: »

Liam Cosgrave?

Yes, on 'Reeling in the Years' last week.
He made the speech during the 1975 oil crisis.
The electorate responded by giving Jack Lynch a landslide victory in 77.

The Raven.

“I say this with reluctance; I say it simply because it's true. What is needed is a pause in the rise in incomes of all kinds. This is the present price for our future prosperity. Goodnight.” Liam Cosgrave 1975.

Thanks, baalthor. Liam Cosgrave did indeed say this. It starts at 7:13 in this YouTube video.

Diese Tom, you almost got it word perfect !

Deise Tom

baalthor wrote: »

Yes, on 'Reeling in the Years' last week.
He made the speech during the 1975 oil crisis.
The electorate responded by giving Jack Lynch a landslide victory in 77.

Thats where i must have seen it. Wonder with Fine Gael and Labour not agreeing with the wage cuts at the moment, will it result in a landslide for Brian Cowan next time out. I doubt it, but alot could happen between now and 2012 if they hold on till then.

Deise Tom

The Raven. wrote: »

“I say this with reluctance; I say it simply because it's true. What is needed is a pause in the rise in incomes of all kinds. This is the present price for our future prosperity. Goodnight.” Liam Cosgrave 1975.

Thanks, baalthor. Liam Cosgrave did indeed say this. It starts at 7:13 in this YouTube video.

Diese Tom, you almost got it word perfect !

Ya, did say that the words i used may not be entirely correct.

jmayo

baalthor wrote: »

Yes, on 'Reeling in the Years' last week.
He made the speech during the 1975 oil crisis.
The electorate responded by giving Jack Lynch a landslide victory in 77.

Much as I said happened to poor ould Jimm carter in the US.
Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth but a fairy tale, even if it does come back to bite them in the ass down the road.

The actual seeds of the whole US and indeed world financial meltdown of the last fews years were sown by the Reagan administration after winning that election.
Of course there were a couple of booms and bust in between but that was the beginning of the financial markets playing really silly buggers.

BTW sceptre are we going to have virtual swings and slides in this playground you are proposing ?