Letter from HSE to staff.

FlutterinBantam

Seems like the well paid, well conditioned lads and lassies in the HSE got a bit of a 'rocket' from the head of HR in the HSE concerning their work to rule.

Looks like they were exceeding agreements and the taxpayer was not getting what was paid for.

True to form the Union honcho comes on and starts spouting 'bullying' and 'intimidation'.

Good to see somebody taking on these people and getting them to do a bit of work according to their contracts.

As a taxpayer I fully support this letter.

gandalf

Any links to a story or even better the actual letter?

FlutterinBantam

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0305/pay.html

gandalf

That is excellent news especially this extract.

The HSE is warning that it may be forced to take disciplinary action, such as a reduction in pay or redeployment, against staff that refuse to resume their normal duties.

This is the attitude that's needed to be replicated across the management in the PS.

Smallbit

As an HSE worker in a therapeutic role, I also support the letter. I'm sick of clerical and admin inefficiency and the way it adversely affects how I do my job. I've also been waiting six months for some useless twit to calculate my leave entitlement as I work shifts in a 24 hour clinical environment.

I'm also sick of being tarred with the same brush when people find out I work in the HSE. The reality for some of us was that we worked through the last strike, and were told we wouldn't be paid for it. I also do on average five hours per week over my contract hours without pay, simply because you can't leave a clinical environment if there's nobody to cover you.:mad:

FlutterinBantam

Fair play to you.

Pity there are not more like you not afraid to give the finger to the Union honchos who are ,as you well know, creaming very solid salaries on your back.

These punters have a vested interest in stirring up unrest and sometimes needs honest people like yourself to stand up and be counted.

ei.sdraob

The public sector unions will not gain any sympathy from the public

if their work to rule starts affecting (already effecting) the health of the public

without sympathy (of which there is none) yee are only wasting your times

gandalf

Smallbit wrote: »

As an HSE worker in a therapeutic role, I also support the letter. I'm sick of clerical and admin inefficiency and the way it adversely affects how I do my job. I've also been waiting six months for some useless twit to calculate my leave entitlement as I work shifts in a 24 hour clinical environment.

I'm also sick of being tarred with the same brush when people find out I work in the HSE. The reality for some of us was that we worked through the last strike, and were told we wouldn't be paid for it. I also do on average five hours per week over my contract hours without pay, simply because you can't leave a clinical environment if there's nobody to cover you.:mad:

I can't commend the Frontline workers in the HSE enough because I have seen you in operation very closely with my fathers ultimately fatal illness that kept him in hospital over 8 months around 4 years ago and a very serious illness my mother had after that. I also have experience doing business with the administration side of the HSE and the work I was involved in with them was the most frustrating that I have ever experienced during my commercial life. No body wants to take any responsibility in the work that they do and they did everything to avoid taking on any extra duties.

The internal politics between the old health board divisions is frightening and all the actual HSE has done is add another layer of administration on top of the ones that already existed from the Health Board days. The one positive that will come from the reforms that are on the way is the Frontline staff should get a more efficient admin to back them up and refocus the HSE on servicing its customers, the general public.

BluntGuy

Smallbit wrote: »

As an HSE worker in a therapeutic role, I also support the letter. I'm sick of clerical and admin inefficiency and the way it adversely affects how I do my job. I've also been waiting six months for some useless twit to calculate my leave entitlement as I work shifts in a 24 hour clinical environment.

I'm also sick of being tarred with the same brush when people find out I work in the HSE. The reality for some of us was that we worked through the last strike, and were told we wouldn't be paid for it. I also do on average five hours per week over my contract hours without pay, simply because you can't leave a clinical environment if there's nobody to cover you.:mad:

There are probably many more like you, more than you think, who are sick of the adminstrative inefficiency.

The problem is the frontline and the ineffectual staff are often lumped in together. Yes this is the fault of the media, but it's also the fault of the unions, who continue to defend indefensable work practices and members that should've been let go years ago (or rather, never hired in the first place).

Floppybits

deadtiger wrote: »

The one positive that will come from the reforms that are on the way is the Frontline staff should get a more efficient admin to back them up and refocus the HSE on servicing its customers, the general public.

To me the HSE needs to be rebuilt from scratch and this time properly with people applying for jobs instead of the jobs for all policy that was implemented by our dear ex leader Bertie.

Secondly the Minister for Health has to take a more active role in governing the HSE and not the current arms length model.

Thridly the HSE needs to stop behaving like the KGB did in the dark days of communism and start being more open with the Public and stop treating us like the dirt you would see on the street, we just have to look at the events this week with the failures that occurred with Children in the care of the state.

Last and by no means least as deadtiger says above the HSE needs to start focusing on servicing its customers.

Do I think this will ever happen? I would like to think it will but will it happen in my life time and I am 36 years old, currently I dont think it will.

Victor

The earlier version of the headline.

walshb

Riding and riding the system for every ****ing cent they can scrape. No wonder the HSE is
in such a state. It's all tied up by Unions and legal eagles.

Jip

Floppybits wrote: »

To me the HSE needs to be rebuilt from scratch and this time properly with people applying for jobs instead of the jobs for all policy that was implemented by our dear ex leader Bertie.

Secondly the Minister for Health has to take a more active role in governing the HSE and not the current arms length model.

Thridly the HSE needs to stop behaving like the KGB did in the dark days of communism and start being more open with the Public and stop treating us like the dirt you would see on the street, we just have to look at the events this week with the failures that occurred with Children in the care of the state.

Last and by no means least as deadtiger says above the HSE needs to start focusing on servicing its customers.

Do I think this will ever happen? I would like to think it will but will it happen in my life time and I am 36 years old, currently I dont think it will.

The biggest block to doing any of the above are the unions.

JonathanAnon

This is a brilliant opportunity to fire/ redeploy/ move the staff that they want to get rid of, but normally cant because of contracts. These people are in breach of their contracts by striking without union backing, and if anybody in the HSE had an ounce of b*lls, they could quickly capitalize on this for the better of the state.

If these "workers" are not happy with the cuts, then get a job somewhere else. NO job is worth what it was five years ago. We've all had to accept cuts. Some have lost more than 50% of our wage with no guarantee of future work. I mean .. ffs. what the hell are the planners in the council actually doing these days??? Keeping their heads down thats what.

One thing I think that is unfair though.. I think anybody who has a reduction in wages should have the lengths of their mortgages extended and allow reduced monthly payments if they wish. I mean we bailed out the b*stard bankers, it's not much to ask really.

changes

Smallbit wrote: »

I've also been waiting six months for some useless twit to calculate my leave entitlement as I work shifts in a 24 hour clinical environment..:mad:

Have you tried contacting this office to find out when it will be dealt with rather than calling them useless twits on here.

gandalf

changes wrote: »

Have you tried contacting this office to find out when it will be dealt with rather than calling them useless twits on here.

They probably aren't answering the phone

rightwingdub

Is it true that management in the HSE have threatened to outsource all the porters out to a private company because of obscene absennteeism amongst porters in one particular hospital, there should bloody well outsource all the admin functions in the HSE to private companies. On the letter itself rom the HR head honcho in the HSE, management should go further and fire anyone who refuses to obey reasonable instructions, these people are an absolute disgrace.

gandalf

rightwingdub wrote: »

Is it true that management in the HSE have threatened to outsource all the porters out to a private company because of obscene absennteeism amongst porters in one particular hospital, there should bloody well outsource all the admin functions in the HSE to private companies. On the letter itself rom the HR head honcho in the HSE, management should go further and fire anyone who refuses to obey reasonable instructions, these people are an absolute disgrace.

They are threatening it with regard to one hospital the Mid Western Regional Hospital and if half of what is reported is true in the linked article they are well within their rights to do so.

http://www.examiner.ie/ireland/hse-threat-to-privatise-jobs-as-porters-mount-lightning-strikes-113693.html

rightwingdub

deadtiger wrote: »

They are threatening it with regard to one hospital the Mid Western Regional Hospital and if half of what is reported is true in the linked article they are well within their rights to do so.

http://www.examiner.ie/ireland/hse-threat-to-privatise-jobs-as-porters-mount-lightning-strikes-113693.html

Have these people got any shame:mad:, they should all be sacked given the obscene levels of absenteeism, there are plenty of people who would willingly do their job for €22k per year, they get €27k per year starting off for being a porter for crying out loud. Come on management show some spine and sack these wasters.

DeVore

Last week here in Malta a person had to spend a night on a gurnie (sp?) in a room that wasnt a hospital ward.

It made front page news in the Malta Times (the only newspaper of note here really) and caused it to be debated in the parliament. This, coming after ONLY LAST YEAR someone was misdiagnosed and sent home with a broken wrist (and came back the next day for an operation).

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20100214/local/doctors-complain-of-hospital-bed-shortage

The Maltese cant understand why I laugh and cry.

DeV.