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NXT and Smackdown Spoilers..

  • 03-03-2010 11:41am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭


    Nxt

    WWE NXT on SyFy
    Taped earlier in Wichita, Ks.

    [Q1] A video package recapped last week’s show…The opening video aired, followed by R-Truth’s music. Truth made his lame as entrance with David Otunga, who ripped his jeans off as Truth danced around. Michael Cole and Josh Matthews welcomed us to NXT and sent it over to Matt Striker…

    Shore’s Slant: I whipped Twilling’s ass and took this show from him. Actually, he’s on vacation, but whatever. Also, the head cheese himself, Jason Powell, is in the Dot Net forums tonight. He’s discussing the show while we watch.

    Striker was backstage, and explained the concept of the show. He said that the eight pros would vote on the rookies, but they could not vote for or against their rookie. CM Punk’s music htri, and he, the Straight Edge Society, and Darren Young made their entrance. Punk looked as unhappy as last week…

    1. Darren Young (w/The Straight Edge Society) defeated David Otunga (w/R-Truth) at 9:43. Otunga started in control. He worked power on Young, but missed a clothesline in the corner for Young to take control. Young called for the crowd to cheer, and they booed. Truth got the crowd behind Otunga, and he hit a back suplex. Otunga tried to attack from the apron, but Young hit a hangman and Otunga fell to the floor. He recovered into the break…[C]

    Back at 5:56. Young had a neck lock on. Otunga escaped, but Young hit a suplex and went back to the neck lock. Otunga escaped, but Young hit a clothesline for two. Young used the chinlock this time. Young tried for a neckbreaker, but Otunga pushed off and spilled Young to the floor. Gallows ran over and so did Truth. The ref dealt with them as the wrestlers got back in the ring. Otunga hit the ropes, and Punk grabbed the leg. Otunga stared at Punk, and Young hit a full nelson lift into a flapjack type finisher for the win.

    [Q2] Post match, Punk and company just left. Young called after them. Truth got in the ring and checked on Otunga. Otunga pushed Truth and left the ring while staring at him…A Daniel Bryan video aired. He talked about working in the industry for the last 10 years and said he would win NXT…

    Ringside, Cole and Matthews discussed Bryan. Cole once again heeled it up, talking about Matthews and his “Twitter Geeks.” Cole said he stood by what he said last week. He put over the Miz’s actions again, and said Jericho almost lost because he was over-confident. Matthews said he stood by what he said that Bryan had impressed everyone. They setup a video that showed Bryan’s crash into the table…

    Backstage, a trainer checked on Bryan. He said he was fine. Miz came up and said that Bryan’s next lesson was that even if you have a “boo-boo,” you have to compete. He said he had booked him in a match with Jericho’s rookie, Wade Barrett, and that match was next. He wished Bryan luck and slapped the bruise. Ow. The trainer taped Bryan up…[C]

    Shore’s Slant: A pretty good match. These guys are obviously green, but they entertained for the full time. The Truth/Otunga swerve intrigues me as much as why Punk would help Young. I expect a head shave in his future. Otunga, not real sure where his story goes next.

    Back from commercial, a video showed Striker asking Otunga what happened during the break. Otunga said he got jumped by Punk and company. Truth ran up and got in his face. He pushed Otunga back and they brawled until the ref broke them up…

    Chris Jericho was introduced. He walked onto the stage and introduced Wade Barrett. A video package gave more information on Barrett. Miz’s music hit and Bryan made his entrance alone as Jericho joined the announcers…

    2. Wade Barrett (w/Chris Jericho) defeated Daniel Bryan at 2:14. Barrett attacked the ribs immediately and went to work. He worked strikes, slams, and back breakers. Carlito and The Miz were shown backstage watching on a monitor. Barrett charged at Bryan. Bryan moved and Barrett fell to the floor. Bryan hit a flying knee from the apron, and sold the rib injury afterwards. He rolled Barrett in the ring and went for a springboard something, but he fell instead and Barrett covered for one. Barrett hit a fireman’s carry slam for the win.

    [Q3] Post match, put over the botched springboard as proof of the injuries from the beating he gave Bryan last week. Jericho slid in the ring and stomped Bryan. He locked in the old school Liontamer (Walls of Jericho) and held it for a few moments before he and Barrett left the ring. Cole put it over as more respect lessons for Bryan…The announce team hyped the main event debuts of Sheffield and Gabriel…[C]

    Shore’s Slant: Quick match that made Barrett look good, and does a ton to build a story for Bryan. WWE is putting high stock in him by letting him play the sympathy angle, making it easier to cheer him. That said, I hope that botch was planned, otherwise he could be up a creek without a paddle.

    Back from commercial, the Raw Rebound video recapped the DX happenings last night...The announce team setup a video that recapped Christian and Heath Slater winning last week. Another video showed Slater bragging about last week. Christian cut him off and said he did well last week, and then put him back in his place. He had Slater start doing pull downs…

    Matt Striker interviewed Matt Hardy and Justin Gabriel. Gabriel said he called Matt sensei, Hardy said Gabriel passed one test, and it was time to pass another…

    [Q4] Back ringside, Regal and Sheffield made their entrance…[C]

    Shore’s Slant: Can Slater look any more like a tool. First there was the little flip behind the ear, then it was his general sillyness last week, and now this terrible thing he just tried to do with Christian? I feel bad for him.

    Back from commercial, a video package hyped the “Cornfed Meathead” Skip Sheffield. I swear to God…Hardy and Gabriel made their ring entrance. What the hell is Gabriel wearing?...

    3. Matt Hardy and Justin Gabriel defeated William Regal and Skip Sheffield11:15. Sheffield and Gabriel started. Sheffield worked power on Gabriel. Gabriel ducked a clothesline and hit a drop kick and tagged in Hardy. Hardy hooked an arm bar and tagged Gabriel right back in. Hardy whipped Sheffield to the corner, hit a clothesline, and then let Gabriel jump off of him for a splash…[C]

    Back at 5:45, Regal worked his stiff offense on Gabriel. Welcome to the big leagues, son. Regal mouthed at Sheffield, and Hardy tagged himself in. Regal ran over and took Matt out with a knee, and rolled him to the floor. Regal and Sheffield argued some more. Regal yelled the Sheffield was a moron to the announce team. Matt rolled back in, and Sheffield tagged in. He hit a splash for two, and then a slam. He tagged Regal back in.

    [Overrun] Hardy tried to fight away from Regal, but he drove him back to the corner and tagged in Sheffield. Somebody stay in the damn ring, or at least work double team moves. Sheffield lifted Hardy. Hardy slipped out and hit a neckbreaker. Sheffield made it to Regal first. Regal slammed Hardy and then yelled at Sheffield. Hardy hit a chin buster on Regal and tagged in Gabriel. Gabriel hit a 450 splash for the win…

    Backstage, Matt Striker was with the other size rookies. He put over that someone would be a breakout star. Carlito walked up and chewed his apple. He looked at all the rookies, and then spit in Slater’s face. He said, “That’s cool,” and walked off. Slater sold like a bitch, and Striker said, “That’s NXT,” to close the show…[C]

    Shore’s Slant: A pretty good match to close the show. It was nice to see the rookies get the bulk of the work, and for a rookie to get the pin, unlike last week when Christian ran roughshod. Gabriel looks like a tool, and Sheffield…well, Sheffield looks like Stone Cold if Stone Cold had been inbred. I’ll have more to say tomorrow on the hitlist. Thanks for reading and I’ll see you then.
    HELP SUPPORT DOT NET! BECO





    Smackdown not with much detail though....
    Rey v Punk is looking good, although I am a little confused about what is happening Drew? Losing to Matt?! Jo Mo back to tag team duty as well.:pac:

    WWE taped the this week's edition of Smackdown tonight from the Intrust Bank Arena in Wichita, Kansas. Thanks to reader Josh for sending us text message updates. Below are full taping results:

    WWE Smackdown (Airing Friday on MyNetworkTV):
    * A video is shown recapping Edge and Chris Jericho from last week. Edge comes out to open the show. He says he's worried about Jericho because he keeps getting Speared. Big Show comes out. Edge says She is going to get Speared later. Show says his luck will run out and he will knock him out. Edge throws him out of the ring to end the segment.

    * Backstage, Teddy Long is with Drew McIntyre. Drew says he didn't lose last week. Drew demands a Money in the Bank qualifying match against Matt Hardy.

    * WWE Intercontinental Champion Drew McIntyre vs. Matt Hardy in a Money in the Bank ladder match qualifying match. Matt Hardy b. Drew McIntyre to qualify. After the match Drew goes crazy and tears up the announce table and yells at Mike Striker.

    * Shelton Benjamin b. Dolph Ziggler

    * John Morrison & R-Truth vs. Cryme Tyme vs. The Hart Dynasty in a number one contender match for the Unified WWE Tag Team Championship is announced for later in the night.

    * Ezekiel Jackson b. Jimmy Wang Yang

    * Backstage, Rey Mysterio has Tiffany (who he welcomes to Smackdown) watch his daughter.

    * Luke Gallows vs. Rey Mysterio. CM Punk says he wants Luke to make Rey pay for his sins for beating him last week. Rey Mysterio b. Luke Gallows. Punks comes in after the match and goes for GTS but Rey reverses it.

    * Backstage, Chris Jericho says he wants Big Show to destroy Edge. Big Show says its all about him and that he's doing it for himself.

    * The Raw Rebound is regarding Shawn Michaels and The Undertaker.

    John Morrison & R-Truth b. Cryme Tyme & The Hart Dynasty to become the number one contenders for the Unified WWE Tag Team Championship at Wrestlemania.

    * Backstage, Michelle McCool and Layla give Vickie Guerrero a simply flawless shirt. Beth Phoenix comes in and Vickie tells her she will never get a title shot.

    * Edge b. Big Show with a Spear. Teddy Long announces Edge must now face Chris Jericho for the belt. This will likely be a dark match main event.

    Dark Match Main Event:

    * World Heavyweight Champion Chris Jericho vs. Edge ends in disqualification after run-ins from Big Show and Kane.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,016 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Is a rookie eliminated each week from nxt?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭Jolt2007


    Wade Barrett=Future World Champ


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭paddyismaddy


    i must say outta all the wwe's shows nxt is the most entertaining for me lately


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    I don't like the way they are going with Danielson.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    I like what they're doing with MITB this year - loading it with a bunch of jobbers and nobodies.:rolleyes:


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    I don't like the way they are going with Danielson.


    Why Not?

    I like what they're doing with MITB this year - loading it with a bunch of jobbers and nobodies.

    I have no problem with anybody who has qualified so far, but I don't get why they persist with 8 men in the match. I would prefer to see a smaller number maybe 4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    I like what they're doing with MITB this year - loading it with a bunch of jobbers and nobodies.:rolleyes:

    Christian is not a nobody, the dude had a show built around him in the last few months.:confused:
    They are obviously trying to rebuild two of their brightest talents in Swagger and Ziggler so their inclusion makes sense and the rest are always in the thing. Kofi, Kane and MVP were in it last year and their stock has not dropped at all. Matt is still more over than most people think.
    Honestly this lot is no weaker than who was in it last year apart from Punk obviously.
    Not even the class of 2008 were much higher on the food chain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    DM-ICE wrote: »
    Why Not?

    They are making him look like a chump who is out of his depth in the WWE while complete novices are looking much better than him. They are playing Danielson up as someone who has some kind of bad attitude which is stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    I have no problem with the actual talent but Hardy, Swagger, Ziggler, MVP and Benjamin, even Kane to an extent have been complete jobbers for the last few months and unless they put Kofi in there the result is in little doubt. They've done their best to bury most of the guys they put in there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    The only rookies that stand out to me so far are Daniel Bryan and Otunga. If Bryan doesn't win this NXT thing it will have been a waste that promoted Jennifer Hudson's boyfriend.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    I have no problem with the actual talent but Hardy, Swagger, Ziggler, MVP and Benjamin, even Kane to an extent have been complete jobbers for the last few months and unless they put Kofi in there the result is in little doubt. They've done their best to bury most of the guys they put in there.

    But the MITB is normally jobber filled, and its done the biz for them before so why change it now?
    I still think MITB is a superb chance to rebuild some of the younger guys their.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    But the MITB is normally jobber filled, and its done the biz for them before so why change it now?

    All but last years were star studded and even last year had people going into it with momentum, none of those qualified have any form of momentum, even Christian so it's a waste. Even if they put Kofi in, he's no higher now than he was last year due to how disastrously botched his 'push'. It's a match filled with a bunch people they've put no effort into since August or before.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    They are making him look like a chump who is out of his depth in the WWE while complete novices are looking much better than him. They are playing Danielson up as someone who has some kind of bad attitude which is stupid.

    Cool,

    I don't get the out of his depth impression myself.

    I looked at it so far as a guy the established (WWE) wrestlers are scared of and thats why they keep trying to put him down or why he got attacked after his match two weeks in a row.

    Having a competitive match with the world champion last week put him in a good light and there should be little shame in losing to a 6 foot 6 guy mentored by the world champ, while you are "injured" and getting no support from your "mentor".

    His bad attitude towards the Miz is probably supposed to reflect how the normal fans would feel towards him too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Just watched NXT. Decent enough episode though not as good as last week. I like Otunga and think he has the potential to be a useful talent. Needs to improve in the ring though and my only concern would be whether he will have the desire to stick with wrestling considering he doesn't exactly need it as much as the others.

    I think Danielson is actually being pushed strong. His name is the one mentioned more than any of the others. Nothing wrong with him losing this week when he was only presented as being about 60% fit. If he had won that would actually bury Barrett. He also badly botched his springboard attempt so the cover-up citing his injury as being responsible actually ended up working out well.


  • Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    NXT was good , I couldn't stop laughing when that gimp got apple spit all over him. That was amazing. I like Danielsons push so far. Barrett is a future world champ even though his promos are cringe worthy I don't like the bareknuckle fighter gimmick.I liked Gabriel's 450 splash and Skip Sheffield seems to be just a ball of muscle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Just when i thought i knew who would be the main challengers to be declared winner Wade Barrett appears. He may have "it".

    I think this show is a lot tighter than people seem to think. Bryan has botched twice in two weeks now. Luckily both were handily covered up. I wouldn't say he was certain to gain a call up, let alone win the thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    Caught the second episode of NXT. Again, purely for the fresh faces, I'm finding it the most interesting WWE show right now.

    - I like the punk development with his rookie. 3 guys (punk, miz and regal) having the feud with their rook is too much, and I think him gradually converting a goodie to 'heelishness'/straight edge is a good angle.
    - Jericho's rookie is the real deal. 'street fighter' gimmick may make us cringe a little, but we're not yanks. He looks great and seems competent in the ring.
    - I thought NXT ran the risk of turning into the Daniel Bryan show so, perversely, I'm glad that he lost to another noobie. His feud with the Miz could yet blossom into something that gets him over with the non-indy fans.
    - Speaking of which... 'twitter geeks'. He ain't no Bobby the Brain, but Cole works much better as a heel. Maybe its because we love to hate him anyway. Like the addition of self-deprecation - 'that's my line' after Striker remarked 'vintage' utterly out of place.
    - Hardy and his chap (sorry, forget the name) seem like they're getting over and they've got some chemistry. I hope Matt can get healthy (he seems to still be carrying that injury which led to his recent weight gain, and he got puffed out too quickly) because this could be a great chance for both of them.
    - Highlight of the show, though, was Carlito spitting apple in Heath Slater's face. I think he's going to endure a few more humiliations like that before the inevitable Future Endeavours. For once, I'm enjoying the sadism - maybe he's a nice guy in the real world, but he's a total plank.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    You forgot that now Truth and his rookie don't get on. :pac:

    Wade is awesome I agree though. I did like that promo with Skip, it was silly but it made me giggle.:o



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    dsmythy wrote: »
    Just when i thought i knew who would be the main challengers to be declared winner Wade Barrett appears. He may have "it".

    I think this show is a lot tighter than people seem to think. Bryan has botched twice in two weeks now. Luckily both were handily covered up. I wouldn't say he was certain to gain a call up, let alone win the thing.

    I can't decide whether it was a botch or the way they had laid out the match. It seemed to lead really seemlessly into the finish of the match and neither Wade nor the commentators missed a beat when it happened and Danielson immediatley sold the ribs like he was in agony. If it was a botch, kudos to all concerned for an amazing cover up job. It would certainly be most unlike Danielson to botch a second week in a row.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,829 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    The only rookies that stand out to me so far are Daniel Bryan and Otunga. If Bryan doesn't win this NXT thing it will have been a waste that promoted Jennifer Hudson's boyfriend.

    Personally, I don't think Bryan has to win this to get over.

    I think they could have him lose due to the crap he gets from The Miz, and then have him cost The Miz matches on RAW/SD and put him into the 'big leagues' that way, without having won NXT. Honestly, I feel that because they have such an easy way of getting him to move up shows already laid out, it would be a waste for him to win it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,941 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    anybody else like Gabriel

    he impressed me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    Headshot wrote: »
    anybody else like Gabriel

    he impressed me

    Me too - I missed his interview segment, but I thought he was good in the ring and had great chemistry with Hardy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    geeky wrote: »
    Me too - I missed his interview segment, but I thought he was good in the ring and had great chemistry with Hardy.

    His attire though. :eek:
    He's a good looking lad who has charisma who can wrestle and flip so he has a chance.
    I think its safe to rule out Tarver, Skip and Young at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    His attire though. :eek:
    He's a good looking lad who has charisma who can wrestle and flip so he has a chance.
    I think its safe to rule out Tarver, Skip and Young at the moment.

    And Slater. Plank.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Personally, I don't think Bryan has to win this to get over.

    I think they could have him lose due to the crap he gets from The Miz, and then have him cost The Miz matches on RAW/SD and put him into the 'big leagues' that way, without having won NXT. Honestly, I feel that because they have such an easy way of getting him to move up shows already laid out, it would be a waste for him to win it.

    I think you are right. The way the "pro's" have treated im so far he wouldn't get the votes to win.

    I just watched NXT myself and the botch looked like it was supposed to happen.

    There looks to be 3 or 4 guys with real talent. Daniel obviously, i liked the look of gabriel this week. Otunga looked better last week but barrett did well this week. I would say he had a better look in the promo footage they had of him without the slicked ack hair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    His attire though. :eek:
    He's a good looking lad who has charisma who can wrestle and flip so he has a chance.
    I think its safe to rule out Tarver, Skip and Young at the moment.

    Ah i wouldn't rule out Tarver yet. I like his boxer gimmick and he is nicely built.


  • Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Predictions.
    1, Barrett- Future world champ.

    2, Danielson-He won't win but he'l be a future world champ too.

    3, Otunga- Decent Mid-carder but they won't pull the trigger for fear this is just a stepping stone to films.

    4, Gabriel- Deserves to make it but will get Evan Bourne'd.

    5, Young- Touch and go ( Hoping for a Cena staredown to see the resemblance)

    6, Tarver seems to have Jobber written on his forehead. (Carlito as mentor)

    7, Sheffield- Haven't seen enough but looks like a Batista clone. With no CHarisma

    8, Slater- How is he even in this?Can't wait for the inevitable GTS from Punk. Carlito is a legend.

    The only downside to this is that they were stupid enough to let Nigel McGuinness go.
    Imagine McGuinness with Jericho as his Mentor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    Barrett: Meh, didn't look great. Little bland.

    Danielson: Should win as he clearly has the most potential.

    Otunga: Shouldn't win but might as WWE seem to be high on him, quite charismatic but very ordinary in the ring.

    Gabriel: Future main event babyface, I was really impressed. Looked great in the ring and seemed comfortable. I really liked him.

    Young: Meh.

    Tarver: Isn't fair to say decisively yet but I don't see much in him.

    Sheffield: Crappy catchphrase and alright in the ring.

    Slater: Get off my TV now you annoying idiot. Turn him heel and he has a fair amount of potential.


  • Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gabriel: Future main event babyface, I was really impressed. Looked great in the ring and seemed comfortable. I really liked him.

    Only one I don't agree with. He'l get treated the same way Bourne, London, Chavo and all the other brilliant Cruiserweights were.
    I think the only thing that distinguishes him from the rest is that he's the first South African and thats a Huge audience to tap into. Kind of like when Khali was used to get Indian PPV buys.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭waltersobchak


    Only one I don't agree with. He'l get treated the same way Bourne, London, Chavo and all the other brilliant Cruiserweights were.
    I think the only thing that distinguishes him from the rest is that he's the first South African and thats a Huge audience to tap into. Kind of like when Khali was used to get Indian PPV buys.

    He's around the same size and build as CM Punk so he should be fine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    Only one I don't agree with. He'l get treated the same way Bourne, London, Chavo and all the other brilliant Cruiserweights were.
    I think the only thing that distinguishes him from the rest is that he's the first South African and thats a Huge audience to tap into. Kind of like when Khali was used to get Indian PPV buys.

    I dunno, I think he has a certain added charisma that the three you named don't. He seems to genuinely connect with the audience and there's obviously the South Africa appeal especially in World Cup year. WWE would be stupid to lose out on the potential he has (though they've been known to do it plenty of times).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    The dude seems too lightweight though to carry a promo IMO. However you could say that about the likes of Cody, Bourne etc etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Predictions.

    The only downside to this is that they were stupid enough to let Nigel McGuinness go.
    .
    He failed the medical according to PW Insider, so I can understand why the E didn't want to hire him in the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    He failed the medical according to PW Insider, so I can understand why the E didn't want to hire him in the end.

    yup - he pretty much confirmed it in his sun interview too.

    to weigh in on the discussion above, I can see Justin Gabriel getting a good tag-team push with Hardy if he (Matt) gets healthy and doesn't move companies.


  • Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    He failed the medical according to PW Insider, so I can understand why the E didn't want to hire him in the end.

    They didn't want risk because he's had 2 torn biceps and 4 concussions or something along those lines.
    Imagine the promos with Chris Jericho though.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    On Gabriel I agree with the positive comments. He is big enough, similar to punk or Kofi and they are doing well.

    His genuine south african accent will help him in the way the foreign accents of sheamus and drew have helped them. I don't know why but when a wrestler has an accent it makes me concentrate on what they are saying a bit more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,016 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Matt Hardy is very much over with crowd he got a huge pop pity he will always only be a jobber


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    So excuse for some rambling thoughts on Smackdown...


    The opening segment with Edge and Show


    This was really terrible for three reasons...

    1 ......Edge chanting spear over and over was head wrecking. He’s not going to be doing this till Mania is he? Not good at all. :(

    2... I hate the fact they are building this angle around Edge’s finisher, Edge should not have wrestled until Mania and instead they should have just cut promos on each other. It’s so lazy especially when you consider how awesome the build for Cena and Dave has been.

    3 Edge’s spear is awful, always has been and always will, it’s essentially a running hug. Tiffany’s spear looks more painful, so them trying to put it over like death I think is ridiculous. It’s always surprised me that one of their top guys has never been given a finisher better than such a generic move like the spear, spear spear,spear. spear, spear!


    Drew v Matt
    Drews new snazzy entrance does him no favours because it highlights how terribly unover he is with fans. I can’t say I blame them for their apathy though. Little charisma, mediocre on the mic and just blandsville central really. He’s a decent worker but is that enough to justify this rather underwhelming push? :eek:

    The match itself was slow enough but nothing went wrong so I suppose I can’t complain. I do hope they don’t bother with Drew in MITB either, Kofi, Evan or even Zeke would be more fun in that match. Still though, I can’t rule him out though sadly, although I would get some sort of perverse pleasure if he cashed in and the crowd totally no sold it.

    Dolph v Shelton (not himself) .......
    Enjoyable match, although another five minutes wouldn’t have gone amiss. All the guys in MITB can work so all these matches they have between each other in the next few weeks should be pretty decent.

    Luke v Rey
    Awesome, I actually forgot that Gallows when he was Festus was a really good worker. Punk varied it a little in his promo before the match, which was refreshing. The match between Rey and Punk at Mania if it gets enough time should be awesome.

    Harts/2 Cool/ Truth/Jo Mo
    Predictable enough winner, I would have preferred Jo Mo in MITB or ideally a singles match but beggars’ can’t be choosers sadly. I expect Showmiz to win and Jo Mo to turn on Truth turning Morrison heel again. The face turn hasn’t worked although it’s not entirely his fault..


    Edge v Big Slow

    Quite quick mercifully, Slow is not a great wrestler these days and Edge isn’t half the worker he was a few years ago. Edge pinning Show with the running hug spear made perfect booking sense but christ could they have made Jericho look any bigger of a geek afterwards?

    He’s needs something next week over Edge to get some creditability back and make the outcome of their Mania match look a little more difficult to call.

    Edge chanting spear at the end was irritating as hell. Edge will go down as one of my favourite wrestlers ever but he irritated me so much on this show. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mania crowd boo him out of the arena when that comes around either.

    Vince would be an absolute clown if he put this match on last when you consider how strong the rest of the card is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭Jolt2007


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Dolph v Ziggler
    Enjoyable match, although another five minutes wouldn’t have gone amiss. All the guys in MITB can work so all these matches they have between each other in the next few weeks should be pretty decent.

    He wrestled himself? That must've been a sight to see :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Jolt2007 wrote: »
    He wrestled himself? That must've been a sight to see :pac:

    I failed hard. :(


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  • Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jolt2007 wrote: »
    He wrestled himself? That must've been a sight to see :pac:

    Sometimes I wonder whether the Zig Zag is meant to hurt him or the opponent.

    That sucks Rjd2.:pac: How embarrassing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Tricity Bendix


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    3 Edge’s spear is awful, always has been and always will, it’s essentially a running hug.

    Did you see him spear Miz last week? Looked painful to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    I can't remember it tbh:o:o I still reckon his finisher looks so weak and is over reliant on the others guys selling ability. Luckily for him the dudes he has worked with mainly such as Jeff, Rey and Cena are all good at bumping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Harts/2 Cool/ Truth/Jo Mo
    Predictable enough winner, I would have preferred Jo Mo in MITB or ideally a singles match but beggars’ can’t be choosers sadly. I expect Showmiz to win and Jo Mo to turn on Truth turning Morrison heel again. The face turn hasn’t worked although it’s not entirely his fault..

    Rikishi and Scotty 2 Hotty are back??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Rikishi and Scotty 2 Hotty are back??

    I wish:(
    No it wasn't a typo. :P


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    I like edge's spear.

    It can have a build up or it can be sudden and its a pretty safe move.

    Shouldn't all wrestlers be able to bump well?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭Ridley


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    So excuse for some rambling thoughts on Smackdown...


    The opening segment with Edge and Show


    This was really terrible for three reasons...

    1 ......Edge chanting spear over and over was head wrecking. He’s not going to be doing this till Mania is he? Not good at all. :(

    2... I hate the fact they are building this angle around Edge’s finisher, Edge should not have wrestled until Mania and instead they should have just cut promos on each other. It’s so lazy especially when you consider how awesome the build for Cena and Dave has been.

    3 Edge’s spear is awful, always has been and always will, it’s essentially a running hug. Tiffany’s spear looks more painful, so them trying to put it over like death I think is ridiculous. It’s always surprised me that one of their top guys has never been given a finisher better than such a generic move like the spear, spear spear,spear. spear, spear!

    ...

    Edge v Big Slow

    Quite quick mercifully, Slow is not a great wrestler these days and Edge isn’t half the worker he was a few years ago. Edge pinning Show with the running hug spear made perfect booking sense but christ could they have made Jericho look any bigger of a geek afterwards?

    He’s needs something next week over Edge to get some creditability back and make the outcome of their Mania match look a little more difficult to call.

    Edge chanting spear at the end was irritating as hell. Edge will go down as one of my favourite wrestlers ever but he irritated me so much on this show. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mania crowd boo him out of the arena when that comes around either.

    Vince would be an absolute clown if he put this match on last when you consider how strong the rest of the card is.

    So it all comes down to your dislike of the SPEAR?
    Assuming it wasn't piped in, the move's doing its job otherwise the crowd wouldn't have shouted spear when it looked like he was going for the move on the Big Show. ...and didn't.

    And that's likely to be the reaction it's going to get at WM aswell. Though it will probably mean Y2J will be ducking the move and falling out of the ring if Edge connects since it's being built up that Jericho's going down once hit. spear

    I think Taker/HBK II should be last on the card anyspear. Especially if MitB is cashed that night. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Fair enough, I just hope the rest of the build for the feud is not " Jericho fears da spear !@~ stuff, Smackdowns creative have proven they are better than this in the last few years. :(


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Fair enough, I just hope the rest of the build for the feud is " Jericho fears da spear !@~ stuff, Smackdowns creative have proven they are better than this in the last few years. :(


    It is lazy, sounds a lot like Batista fears the Pedigree...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    DM-ICE wrote: »
    It is lazy, sounds a lot like Batista fears the Pedigree...

    Exactly, if John Cena starts shouting attitude adjustment at Batista on Raw, I assume more people will be complaining. :P:P


    Did Hunter ever hit the pedigree on Dave in their feud ?


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