Ferrari unveils a hybrid car at the GVA motor show

probe

You'll have to wait for a few years to get one.... and it will be a guzzler - more greenwashing :-(

http://www.mnn.com/transportation/cars/stories/ferrari-hy-kers-hybrid-experimental-vehicle

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0070c7e2-25fc-11df-b2fc-00144feabdc0.html?nclick_check=1

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/02/geneva-auto-show-ferrari-599-gtb-hybrid/

http://www.ferrari.com/Italian/GT_Sport_Cars/Pages/Vettura-laboratorio-HY-Kers.aspx

robtri

true the car is showboating...

but read the rest, what they have done at their plant is nice...

co2 emmissions reduced by 30,000 tons a year.. 40% reduction...

now that very good...

probe

robtri wrote: »

true the car is showboating...

but read the rest, what they have done at their plant is nice...

co2 emmissions reduced by 30,000 tons a year.. 40% reduction...

now that very good...

CO2 is an irrelevance in my books. There are x Giga tonnes of CO2 in the ground (oil, coal, gas etc), and like it or not they will be "up in the air" in the not too distant future, one way or another. America, Oz, China, India, other third world countries, bla bla bla. (Aside from other "greenhouse gases").

This may or may not impact the climate materially (climate change stuff could be a total or partial fraud, given that many of the peddlers of this doctrine appear to be in it for the money).

There is one certainty - hydrocarbon resources are limited on planet earth, will increase in price astronomically as the population and demand grows, and anyone or country that invests in renewables now will largely make themselves immune from such price increases - because renewables involve no marginal raw material consumption.

I have no problem with idiots driving around in Ferraris if they so wish, because they cost so much to acquire and run, the vast majority of the population can't afford them. The Ferrari (or a similar vehicle) is not a material threat to planet earth - perhaps a lot less than having 100 or 200 cows on a farm... Who can tell?

robtri

probe wrote: »

CO2 is an irrelevance in my books. There are x Giga tonnes of CO2 in the ground (oil, coal, gas etc), and like it or not they will be "up in the air" in the not too distant future, one way or another. America, Oz, China, India, other third world countries, bla bla bla. (Aside from other "greenhouse gases").

This may or may not impact the climate materially (climate change stuff could be a total or partial fraud, given that many of the peddlers of this doctrine appear to be in it for the money).

There is one certainty - hydrocarbon resources are limited on planet earth, will increase in price astronomically as the population and demand grows, and anyone or country that invests in renewables now will largely make themselves immune from such price increases - because renewables involve no marginal raw material consumption.

I have no problem with idiots driving around in Ferraris if they so wish, because they cost so much to acquire and run, the vast majority of the population can't afford them. The Ferrari (or a similar vehicle) is not a material threat to planet earth - perhaps a lot less than having 100 or 200 cows on a farm... Who can tell?

agreed...
likewise CO2 to me on its own is not a major concern....
but it is a good indicator of energy useage...
by reducing there CO2 output by 30,000 40% indicates a large reduction in energy use.. which is what I am interested in..
for the same reasons you are.. most of our global enery is dervied from fossil fuels... and help on reducing our need/dependancy on a finite energy source is good..