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Please help me get nat type 1 back.

  • 01-03-2010 6:36pm
    #1
    Nat Type 1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭


    hi im usen ntl in ireland, i used 2 be nat type 1 my mate changed it 2 nat type 2 he said its better 4 wireless how wrong was he, i last about 2 mins in a game and im kicked out all the time, tryed reseting modem nuthing happens i run the cable from ps3 direct to modem it still says nat type 2 he said he typed *broadband1* in the pppoe user name and pasword and thats what he did 2 get nat type 2 for me i tryed everything im all out of ideas, i rang up ntl they had no idea what i was on about talking about nat types its driving me mad sum 1 please help thanks.


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  • #2
    Leiva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    Run a cable directly from your UPC modem (not the router) into the PS3 .

    On the PS3 goto :

    Network settings.
    Internet Connection Settings.
    Easy.
    Automatic for everything else.


    When complete check what it says ...goto:
    Network settings
    Internet Internet Connection test.

    M.


  • #3
    Nat Type 1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭Nat Type 1


    mixednuts wrote: »
    Run a cable directly from your UPC modem (not the router) into the PS3 .

    On the PS3 goto :

    Network settings.
    Internet Connection Settings.
    Easy.
    Automatic for everything else.


    When complete check what it says ...goto:
    Network settings
    Internet Internet Connection test.

    M.
    i dont have a router i just have ps3 and modem hooked up with the cable direct , it still says nat type 2 when i do it the way u said *(


  • #4
    Leiva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    What type of UPC modem is it ?


  • #5
    Nat Type 1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭Nat Type 1


    mixednuts wrote: »
    What type of UPC modem is it ?
    Cisco Model Number upc2425


  • #6
    Leiva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    Nat Type 1 wrote: »
    Cisco Model Number upc2425

    Turn off the firewall in the modem settings ..this should sort it .

    heres the manual :http://www.upc.ie/pdf/4755_UPC_WiFi_Brochure.pdf

    To get into your settings type 192.168.1.1 into your address bar , leave user and password blank


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  • #7
    Nat Type 1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭Nat Type 1


    mixednuts wrote: »
    Turn off the firewall in the modem settings ..this should sort it .

    heres the manual :http://www.upc.ie/pdf/4755_UPC_WiFi_Brochure.pdf

    To get into your settings type 192.168.1.1 into your address bar , leave user and password blank
    thanks 4 ur help m8. ill try that later cause PSN is down at the moment im such a noob but how do i turn of the firewall


  • #8
    Leiva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    On your laptop web browser or ps3 web browser , type 192.168.1.1 . Leave user and password blank
    When your in the settings you should see a option for firewall ..turn it off

    I don't know what your mate has configured as that could be a problem also.

    You don't need psn up to do this


  • #9
    richymcdermott
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭richymcdermott


    Nat Type 1 wrote: »
    hi im usen ntl in ireland, i used 2 be nat type 1 my mate changed it 2 nat type 2 he said its better 4 wireless how wrong was he, i last about 2 mins in a game and im kicked out all the time, tryed reseting modem nuthing happens i run the cable from ps3 direct to modem it still says nat type 2 he said he typed *broadband1* in the pppoe user name and pasword and thats what he did 2 get nat type 2 for me i tryed everything im all out of ideas, i rang up ntl they had no idea what i was on about talking about nat types its driving me mad sum 1 please help thanks.

    you cant get nat type 1 using ntl only eircom as i know of works


  • #10
    Nat Type 1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭Nat Type 1


    richymcdermott wrote: »
    you cant get nat type 1 using ntl only eircom as i know of works
    i assure you 100% i had nate type 1 never kicked from a game ever when i was nat type 1


  • #11
    Nat Type 1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭Nat Type 1


    thanks 4 everything mixednuts psn isnt back up till 12 midnite so ill try it then and ill let u no if it works if it does ur a legend :D


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  • #12
    richymcdermott
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭richymcdermott


    Nat Type 1 wrote: »
    i assure you 100% i had nate type 1 never kicked from a game ever when i was nat type 1

    i tried it before and didnt work for me , whatever you did i want to know how you did it


  • #13
    Nat Type 1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭Nat Type 1


    turned firewalls off still nat 2 :(


  • #14
    Leiva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    OK , but still try and see if your loosing your connnection mid game.Then try next steps .
    But you really need to know and reverse what your mate did , trying to second guess and resolve could take days .


  • #15
    Victor_M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭Victor_M


    Resetting the Cisco completely would solve this, there is a reset button at the back (reset not restart) as long as you either have the paperwork that came with it that has the SSID and password written on it so you can connect via wireless (I had the same one installed last week, not the easiest to find what the password is even when connected via ethernet to it), or if you are still planning on using the ethernet connection just go through mixednuts network setup again and it will be back to it's defaults.


  • #16
    Leiva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    +1

    Ta Victor ..I was reluctant in resetting as I dont know if he has setup info.


  • #17
    RangeR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,265 ✭✭✭RangeR


    Op, please learn to write properly. Also, PSN was pretty much down since Sunday. Do you not watch the news / listen to radio / read the interwebs?

    Nat2 is all you need


  • #18
    L'prof
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    RangeR wrote: »
    Op, please learn to write properly. Also, PSN was pretty much down since Sunday. Do you not watch the news / listen to radio / read the interwebs?

    Nat2 is all you need

    NAT2 is what I have for my wireless setup with UPC but, I thought NAT1 would be expected for a wired connection?


  • #19
    RangeR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,265 ✭✭✭RangeR


    jasonorr wrote: »
    NAT2 is what I have for my wireless setup with UPC but, I thought NAT1 would be expected for a wired connection?

    No. Many, many people have no idea what NAT 1 or NAT 2 or even NAT is. It's nothing to do with Wired or Wireless.

    NAT1 means that your device [PS3 in this case] is internet facing. That is, not protected by your firewall. It is outside you local network. therefore, if you wanted to stream movies or music to your PS3, you wouldn't be able to. However, Because you are not protected by the firewall, you should be able to play any games, if you only have one PS3.

    NAT2 means that you are protected by your firewall. All ports needed by the PS3 are open or forwarded to it. This may be static mapping or uPNP enabled. In this config, your PS3 is on the inside of the network so you stream stuff to it.

    NAT3 is like NAT2 except no ports are specifically open for it or uPNP is also disabled. Games MAY work. Streaming will work.

    Clear as mud? It is in my head.


  • #20
    L'prof
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    RangeR wrote: »
    No. Many, many people have no idea what NAT 1 or NAT 2 or even NAT is. It's nothing to do with Wired or Wireless.

    NAT1 means that your device [PS3 in this case] is internet facing. That is, not protected by your firewall. It is outside you local network. therefore, if you wanted to stream movies or music to your PS3, you wouldn't be able to. However, Because you are not protected by the firewall, you should be able to play any games, if you only have one PS3.

    NAT2 means that you are protected by your firewall. All ports needed by the PS3 are open or forwarded to it. This may be static mapping or uPNP enabled. In this config, your PS3 is on the inside of the network so you stream stuff to it.

    NAT3 is like NAT2 except no ports are specifically open for it or uPNP is also disabled. Games MAY work. Streaming will work.

    Clear as mud? It is in my head.

    Sounds like what I've heard before. So, is NAT1 the same as setting your ps3 up as a dmz?


  • #21
    RangeR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,265 ✭✭✭RangeR


    jasonorr wrote: »
    Sounds like what I've heard before. So, is NAT1 the same as setting your ps3 up as a dmz?

    Exactly. In the normal order of things, not what you want OR need. The main reason people started talking about NAT1 being REQUIRED months, if not years ago, hear on boards was purely down to eircom and their cheap routers. NAT1 is not the solution. The solution is to use a router that isn't crap.

    Because of those talks, now everyone who doesn't know any better think they NEED NAT1.


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  • #22
    Nat Type 1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭Nat Type 1


    RangeR wrote: »
    Exactly. In the normal order of things, not what you want OR need. The main reason people started talking about NAT1 being REQUIRED months, if not years ago, hear on boards was purely down to eircom and their cheap routers. NAT1 is not the solution. The solution is to use a router that isn't crap.

    Because of those talks, now everyone who doesn't know any better think they NEED NAT1.[/QUOTi dont no as much about this **** as you lads all im sayin is last year i played over 1000 club games in fifa 09 i was nat type 1 and never kicked once , now im nat type 2 played about 250 any was kicked 90% of the time other 10% was when i was nat type 1 i didn't get kicked, i heard a guy sayin sumthing about openin channel numbers on my modem its set at channel 10 atm does this mean anything ? btw thanks 4 any ideas that i could try im just so pissed my team is pushing 4 1st place in fifa world clubs wer close but me getting kicked costs us. tryed reset button - i dont use a router


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