Bread Addict!!

susanroth

I feel like i am always eating bread and i know its one of the worst things to eat especially as it doesn't really agree with me. But my problem is i dont know what to substitute it with? Salads are kind of pain to make and if they are too simple they're just bland... what would be people have instead, for something quick?
The other problem with salads is you have to have lots of ingredients and veg spoils so easily!!

Sapsorrow

susanroth wrote: »

I feel like i am always eating bread and i know its one of the worst things to eat especially as it doesn't really agree with me. But my problem is i dont know what to substitute it with? Salads are kind of pain to make and if they are too simple they're just bland... what would be people have instead, for something quick?
The other problem with salads is you have to have lots of ingredients and veg spoils so easily!!

Hiya the problems you mentioned there with eating salads etc aren't really as big an issue as you think they are. It takes the same amount of time to make a lovely salad as it does to make a sandwich, also the fact that salad ingredients go off quickly is a reflection of the fact that they are actually real foods and good for you! Sure eating better is slightly more inconvenient than eating crap but it only takes a bit more effort initially, time wise you can eat amazingly well with very little time to prep or cooking.
Also salads are not bland! They are one of the most interesting and diverse types of meal out there, google for recipes and you need never eat the same salad twice in your life. I love them.

sedohre

susanroth wrote: »

I feel like i am always eating bread .... But my problem is i dont know what to substitute it with?

I think rice cakes, rivita, water biscuits, pitta bread and bagels are good substitutions.

Sapsorrow

sedohre wrote: »

I think rice cakes, rivita, water biscuits, pitta bread and bagels are good substitutions.

Also known as: bread, bread, bread and.... bread!

Overature

bread like everything is all right when taken in moderation, may i suggest making a big ass sandwich, that way you can have the bread and the healthy insides as well

sedohre

khrystyna100 wrote: »

Also known as: bread, bread, bread and.... bread!

Don't believe khrystyna100, lies I tell you...Lies

metamorphosis

I wouldn't tar ryvita with the same brush as bread though. I know it is essentially wholemeal rye flour and a bit of salt but 4 ryvita will give you along the lines of 150kcals with 6-7 gms of fiber and id find them much more filling than bread with some tuna on them or cottage cheese and nut butter. Plus with ryvita you won't be getting any veg oil or sugar or any other nasties as part of the ingredients.

@ OP: ryvita would be a healthier alternative to bread. Just go easy on them! 4 ryvita with a topping of your choice.

I like to make ryvita pizzas. Get some pureed tomato, some cheese on top and then some diced veggies on top of that and slap under a grill and let it all melt together. NYOM :pac:

I'd stay away from the rice cakes though. They are about as filling as starvation. I could easily go through a 100gm pack of rice cakes after training and still be hungry plus Eileen G has stated several times that they are converted to sugar in the body very quickly and that mod knows her ****! Pittas and bagels are bread!

Sapsorrow

ULstudent wrote: »

I'd stay away from the rice cakes though. They are about as filling as starvation.

LOL!

susanroth

ULstudent wrote: »

I'd stay away from the rice cakes though. They are about as filling as starvation. I could easily go through a 100gm pack of rice cakes after training and still be hungry plus Eileen G has stated several times that they are converted to sugar in the body very quickly and that mod knows her ****! Pittas and bagels are bread!

Couldn't agree more! hate rice cakes:P

El_Dangeroso

Ryvita is better for you than bread the same way that one cigarette is better than ten. If you can stick to that it doesn't make you dive to the bread bin for more, then good enough, I'm not so lucky

Gluten is very very addictive, you can get unbelievably strong withdrawal symptoms from ceasing it. It operates on the same opiate receptors as heroin.

Just go cold turkey, kick it completely for a month. Then you can try a ryvita and see whether or not it kicks off cravings.

I enjoy very high quality bread once in a blue moon if I'm in a country that knows how to make it worth my while. But you'll never get to that stage unless you rid yourself of the daily addiction.

Sapsorrow

Temple_Grandin wrote: »

Ryvita is better for you than bread the same way that one cigarette is better than ten. If you can stick to that it doesn't make you dive to the bread bin for more, then good enough, I'm not so lucky

Gluten is very very addictive, you can get unbelievably strong withdrawal symptoms from ceasing it. It operates on the same opiate receptors as heroin.

Just go cold turkey, kick it completely for a month. Then you can try a ryvita and see whether or not it kicks off cravings.

I enjoy very high quality bread once in a blue moon if I'm in a country that knows how to make it worth my while. But you'll never get to that stage unless you rid yourself of the daily addiction.

Woah thats crazy about the heroin receptors! Is gluten essentially an opiod then? I never heard that but we did do opiods in dairy in college alright. I've read that sugars can cause a beta endorphine response, have you heard anything about it?

Ya I've been limiting my grain consumption down to once a day (usually porridge for breakfast or maybe a few oatcakes for lunch one or the other) and have drastically cut down my fruit intake and am trying to be a bit more sensible with the root veg (I'm a sweet potato and pumkin addict) and god I'm just not hungry anymore!

It's so bizarre, energy levels are constant and no sugar or junk food cravings but then last weekend when on a bit of a bender for a few days and ate loads of chips, bread and ketchup and sure enough I was ravenous all day for days no matter how much I ate and was so miserable from the non-stop sugar cravings!

Granted the alcohol withdrawl probably played a role in it too but I think it reflects nicely how carbs can act like a drug to those who are sensitive to it. When I get down in the dumps all I want is bread and chocolate, my boyfriend eats big plates of mased potatos (on their own) when he needs cheering up!

El_Dangeroso

Yeah, gluten acts on the opiate receptors, for what it's worth so does casein, but to a much much lesser degree. Some people have no 'off' switch for cheese. I'm lucky enough to not be one of those but I moderate my cheese just in case.

You'll notice most of what we call 'comfort food' is some mix of wheat and dairy. Self medication is another way of putting it. :pac:

Pembily

Temple_Grandin wrote: »

Yeah, gluten acts on the opiate receptors, for what it's worth so does casein, but to a much much lesser degree. Some people have no 'off' switch for cheese. I'm lucky enough to not be one of those but I moderate my cheese just in case.

You'll notice most of what we call 'comfort food' is some mix of wheat and dairy. Self medication is another way of putting it. :pac:

I am totally shocked by that - can't actually belive it!!!!! No wonder I had such issues giving up bread... Nuts!! Thanks for that info!

OP if you really are bothered about eating too much bread you will make the change to salads easily... They are only as bland as you make them!

metamorphosis

Thanks for that temple.it actually makes a little sense to me. im not one for all these sweets and taytos - give me a decent dark chocolate. refined junk does nothing for me but anytime i feel crap i want that massive bowl of porridge or lots of ryvita with cottage cheese. those two have become my crutch foods!

El_Dangeroso

ULstudent wrote: »

Thanks for that temple.it actually makes a little sense to me. im not one for all these sweets and taytos - give me a decent dark chocolate. refined junk does nothing for me but anytime i feel crap i want that massive bowl of porridge or lots of ryvita with cottage cheese. those two have become my crutch foods!

Well in fairness, if that's your junkfood you are well ahead of 99% of the population!

Sapsorrow

Temple_Grandin wrote: »

Well in fairness, if that's your junkfood you are well ahead of 99% of the population!

I was thinking that what a bad ass!

metamorphosis

haha - its not unusual for me to go through 130gms of oats though . i sometimes dont do good foods in moderation thank god for the training!

Sapsorrow

ULstudent wrote: »

haha - its not unusual for me to go through 130gms of oats though . i sometimes dont do good foods in moderation thank god for the training!

Well that's it, your foods being used in the right context so! Anyway regardless of what I'm starting to think about other grains in general I still think oats rock!

El_Dangeroso

Oats are definitely one of the least damaging grains (but ferment or soak them first!) along with white rice.

Sapsorrow

:eek: WHITE rice!!! really? How come? damn it I love brown rice it's so chewy and satisfying!

Pembily

Temple_Grandin wrote: »

Oats are definitely one of the least damaging grains (but ferment or soak them first!) along with white rice.

Why the fermenting (how do you ferment) or soaking - what does it do?

khrystyna100 wrote: »

:eek: WHITE rice!!! really? How come? damn it I love brown rice it's so chewy and satisfying!

Yes why white rice?!?!

Iristxo

Doesn't white rice have a very high GI?

corkcomp

khrystyna100 wrote: »

:eek: WHITE rice!!! really? How come? damn it I love brown rice it's so chewy and satisfying!

I dont think anyone was saying to have white rice instead of brown? rather if you are having white rice then soak it?

susanroth

am i wrong in thinking that white rice isn't great for you

El_Dangeroso

Well the theory is that brown rice although it does have more nutrients contains a fair whack of anti-nutrients too. That's why most Asian countries eat polished white rice and then make up the missing nutrients from vegetables.

El_Dangeroso

Pembily wrote: »

Why the fermenting (how do you ferment) or soaking - what does it do?

Fermenting is just soaking in a solution that contains live bacteria such as natural yoghurt.

It makes the nutrients in the oats more digestible, rids it of any gluten contamination and phytic acid.

Getwellsoon

Getting back to what the OP and Khrystyna said:

Salads are so not boring and are so quick and easy to make! Not all salad ingredients go off quickly either. I shop at Aldi and Lidl once a week and everything I get there lasts an entire week or more in the fridge! Also, not all salad ingredients have to be "fresh" as such, many items come in cans or jars. Here are some easy salad and NOT AT ALL BLAND(!) ingredients:

- cherry tomatoes
- cucumber
- baby corn
- cooked beetroot
- grated carrot & apple
- mixed nuts & seeds
- grilled pimento peppers in vinegar
- pickled cabbage
- mixed bean salad

and if you eat meat or dairy:
- coleslaw with light mayo
- ham / turkey slices
- smoked salmon
- fillet of peppered trout
- egg

A great, tasty salad can be thrown together with ease and very little planning, trust me, I pretty much eat it for lunch almost every day and the combinations you can come up with are endless - you don't even need a dressing half the time if the ingredients go together well, and if you find a nice chutney or relish to go with it then that's even nicer!