Brian peters brought back pro-boxing to ireland

Dirty whore!

Brian peters brought back pro-boxing to ireland not bernard dunne, as another poster said if brian peters retired tomorrow it would be a massive loss to irish boxing and live boxing on RTE television. Who would fill those shoes? .Fear not not my fellow irish boxing fans we have many talented boxers to overtake what bernard did and provide us the irish live boxing with deserve on our very own national channels with the likes of andy lee , macklin , murray and maybe even mcloskey and duddy. You only have to look at our amateur boxing to see our future stars it really hasnt been better in that department..... bernard who?

Vintagekits

Dirty whore! wrote: »

Brian peters brought back pro-boxing to ireland not bernard dunne, as another poster said if brian peters retired tomorrow it would be a massive loss to irish boxing and live boxing on RTE television. Who would fill those shoes? .Fear not not my fellow irish boxing fans we have many talented boxers to overtake what bernard did and provide us the irish live boxing with deserve on our very own national channels with the likes of andy lee , macklin , murray and maybe even mcloskey and duddy. You only have to look at our amateur boxing to see our future stars it really hasnt been better in that department..... bernard who?

Someone may jump into BPP's place if they exited from boxing - but only because Peters blazed the trail. Also they would use and need to use the exact same model that Peters used to be successful.

In terms of fighters - they would probably needs BPP's current stable of fighters as well!

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gmkgreaney

ya fair play to him but 1 thing that needs improving is the matchmaking the foreign imports they bring in as opponents, i know they do in england as well but from what iv seen there off a higher standard, i was readin an article with phillip fondu the europena matchmaker, hes fairly well known and all the big promoters use him as he provides good tough fighters and aslo has some very good boxers like yuri romanov etc , but he was saying that theres only certain countries where he'l work with fighters and he named bulgaria ukraine russia etc, he siad he wouldnt touch fighters from slovakia slovenia,czech. to name a few as there boxing asscoiations are shady and not well run, and there journey men are off poor quality and lack experience, from my time watching irish promotions i know that alot of the journeymen fighting against irish opposition were slovakian czech etc and were fairly awful boxers and out of shape, i think brian peters and other promters need to use fondu, and produce good tough fights which will only benifit irish boxers instead of these useless turkeys who get blowna way in a round.

Vintagekits

gmkgreaney wrote: »

ya fair play to him but 1 thing that needs improving is the matchmaking the foreign imports they bring in as opponents, i know they do in england as well but from what iv seen there off a higher standard, i was readin an article with phillip fondu the europena matchmaker, hes fairly well known and all the big promoters use him as he provides good tough fighters and aslo has some very good boxers like yuri romanov etc , but he was saying that theres only certain countries where he'l work with fighters and he named bulgaria ukraine russia etc, he siad he wouldnt touch fighters from slovakia slovenia,czech. to name a few as there boxing asscoiations are shady and not well run, and there journey men are off poor quality and lack experience, from my time watching irish promotions i know that alot of the journeymen fighting against irish opposition were slovakian czech etc and were fairly awful boxers and out of shape, i think brian peters and other promters need to use fondu, and produce good tough fights which will only benifit irish boxers instead of these useless turkeys who get blowna way in a round.

I think its probably the Baltic - Lativan, Lituanian and Estonian counrtries that are the worst to be honest.There doesnt seem to be any regulation of the fights or the worst of the journey from those countries that fight over here tend to gome "back home" and pick up a few wins against debutants so they dont lose their licence.

joepenguin

gmkgreaney wrote: »

ya fair play to him but 1 thing that needs improving is the matchmaking the foreign imports they bring in as opponents, i know they do in england as well but from what iv seen there off a higher standard, i was readin an article with phillip fondu the europena matchmaker, hes fairly well known and all the big promoters use him as he provides good tough fighters and aslo has some very good boxers like yuri romanov etc , but he was saying that theres only certain countries where he'l work with fighters and he named bulgaria ukraine russia etc, he siad he wouldnt touch fighters from slovakia slovenia,czech. to name a few as there boxing asscoiations are shady and not well run, and there journey men are off poor quality and lack experience, from my time watching irish promotions i know that alot of the journeymen fighting against irish opposition were slovakian czech etc and were fairly awful boxers and out of shape, i think brian peters and other promters need to use fondu, and produce good tough fights which will only benifit irish boxers instead of these useless turkeys who get blowna way in a round.

I think you are right about the quality of journeyman. I seen Steve Foster jr fight this guy ... http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=357256&cat=boxer a few weeks ago and even though he was in there as an opponent he was in shape, was fit and could hit hard for the 6 rounds.

As for the current stable of Irish fighters overtaking Bernard... I doubt it, one or two of them have the potential to equal what he did. There is no denying that Brian Peters deserves a lot of credit for bringing Irish boxing back to the mainstream.

He is the Vince McMahon of Irish boxing and Bernard Dunne was the Hulk Hogan.

Vintagekits

joepenguin wrote: »

I think you are right about the quality of journeyman. I seen Steve Foster jr fight this guy ... http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=357256&cat=boxer a few weeks ago and even though he was in there as an opponent he was in shape, was fit and could hit hard for the 6 rounds.

As for the current stable of Irish fighters overtaking Bernard... I doubt it, one or two of them have the potential to equal what he did. There is no denying that Brian Peters deserves a lot of credit for bringing Irish boxing back to the mainstream.

He is the Vince McMahon of Irish boxing and Bernard Dunne was the Hulk Hogan.

the oppos on that card were brilliant wernt they - they really put up a good fight. You shudda come up with me to see Kenny Anderson, Yassine El Maachi and Chris O'Brien last night. Will I give ya a shout next time?

gmkgreaney

Vintagekits wrote: »

I think its probably the Baltic - Lativan, Lituanian and Estonian counrtries that are the worst to be honest.There doesnt seem to be any regulation of the fights or the worst of the journey from those countries that fight over here tend to gome "back home" and pick up a few wins against debutants so they dont lose their licence.

ya maybe iv the wrong countries but its def true about the quality

joepenguin

Vintagekits wrote: »

the oppos on that card were brilliant wernt they - they really put up a good fight. You shudda come up with me to see Kenny Anderson, Yassine El Maachi and Chris O'Brien last night. Will I give ya a shout next time?

Didn't hear anything bout that one. Yeah give me a shout if you heading to any more.
Where were they fighting? Dont see anything on boxrec?

Vintagekits

joepenguin wrote: »

Didn't hear anything bout that one. Yeah give me a shout if you heading to any more.
Where were they fighting? Dont see anything on boxrec?

no I was just up at their gym. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055837479

I Drink It Up!

Pro Boxing was kept alive in this country down the years by people who read the magazines, and struggle to find out results in the pre-internet era. Pro boxing was kept alive by the fans.

mark renton

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

Pro Boxing was kept alive in this country down the years by people who read the magazines, and struggle to find out results in the pre-internet era. Pro boxing was kept alive by the fans.

actually pro boxing as a watchable sport was kept alive in this country preinternet by ITV, and the fact remains that Bernard Dunne needed Brian Peters and Brian Peters needed Bernard Dunne

could Bernard Dunne have survived without BP ?

could Brian Peters have survived without BD ?

I Drink It Up!

john47832 wrote: »

actually pro boxing as a watchable sport was kept alive in this country preinternet by ITV, and the fact remains that Bernard Dunne needed Brian Peters and Brian Peters needed Bernard Dunne

could Bernard Dunne have survived without BP ?

could Brian Peters have survived without BD ?

Yeah, you could say that, as a student lad back in 1999 I had no TV but I always travelled up to Easons on Friday night from Shankill to check out RING and Boxing Monthly.....on one occasion I couldn't make it up for a while and found out, 2 months after the fact, that Ike Ibeabuchi had stopped Chris Tyrd in 5 and that Erik Morales had done Junior Jones in 4.

Big Ears

The fact is they did it together, Dunne wouldn't have had an opportunity to come back to Ireland without Peters(unless a UK promoter saw there was a market for it) and Peters wouldn't have had the opportunity to start putting on big shows again, or any shows really without Dunne.

Without Dunne there would be no Brian Peters Promotions empire, that's pretty much a fact. Jim Rock wasn't going to captivate the general public imagination(no offence to the Pink Panther), Peters needed a fighter than had charisma, potential and also ability. He needed someone who could make it to European level at the very least and Dunne provided him with it.

They were the perfect partnership for each other.

I Drink It Up!

Big Ears wrote: »

The fact is they did it together, Dunne wouldn't have had an opportunity to come back to Ireland

What do you mean "opportunity"??? He had run out of options. He lost his last fight in America just about everywhere except the judges score cards. He had become a figure of derision in the Wild Card gym. He got run back here. "Opportunity" indeed.

joepenguin

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

What do you mean "opportunity"??? He had run out of options. He lost his last fight in America just about everywhere except the judges score cards. He had become a figure of derision in the Wild Card gym. He got run back here. "Opportunity" indeed.

I dont have exact figures now but im sure there are plenty of gyms and promoters in the states willing to take a quick fisted irish fighter on. He could have been a big attraction in New York especially. Went to the UK etc. Oppurtunity arose and he chose Ireland, Id say mainly for lifestyle / family reasons.

T-K-O

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

What do you mean "opportunity"??? He had run out of options. He lost his last fight in America just about everywhere except the judges score cards. He had become a figure of derision in the Wild Card gym. He got run back here. "Opportunity" indeed.

You think you would have picked something up with that all reading of the ring magazine:rolleyes:

It was great timing for both guys. Without Dunne, Peters would have achieved nothing, he's stable was brutal. The guys he had would not make 'prime time' TV

With out Peters Dunne would have been promoted from the UK.

I agree it was a partnership but lets be real here, it would be a helleva lot easier to find a guy with a few quid than it would be to find a guy with the talent and the pulling power of Dunne.