Would it be wrong to report neighbour to police?

LegacyUser

I know that a neighbour of mine deals weed, would you guys think it would be wrong to report this person to the police?

LegacyUser

Yes I think you should, you better have your facts straight though! They might just smoke it and thats a totally different thing to dealing. Also your motive: Is it because you don't like them? Or because you would like to see another dealer put behind bars where he/she belongs?

Whatever your reason, be SURE they are dealing before you report anything....

LegacyUser

Not in the slightest, I'd commend you for it. If he's dealing and you can prove it, he should face the full force of the law

LegacyUser

Depends, what he is doing is illegal thats the law, but rember simply reporting him may have no effect on the situation except making him aware to the Garda which they may already know what he is doing. You dont give a discription on how he is doing it. If he is standing outside the house selling or has a lot of people coming around to buy weed then of course it can make it miserable for anyone to live next door to it and maybe you should consider ringing the gaurds but if you just have suspicions then you could be making a inocent persons life a little bit harder, you will have to way up the situation yourself just remeber that if te guards come knocking on his door he will be wondering who called them so be careful on how you do it

tenchi-fan

Hmm i don't know..

i reported someone to the gardai before. They met with me and then told me they had no evidence. I got them some evidence and made a statement. They kept stressing how I would be expected to testify in court if it went that far. Then they said it wasn't enough to press charges, however they would interview the guy and he'd probably know that it was me who shopped him...

My advice, write an anonymous letter - you've reported it, let them investigate it.

Cato78

If I had a neighbor that was dealing drugs ( of any sort ) I would only report them if it was somehow affecting me. Is it bringing violence or theft into my neighborhood? Is it bringing all sorts of noise at late hours? I would call over that, but not simply over the drug selling. I just don't feel it's any of my business what another person chooses to put into their body.

I dunno, I don't want to go on my pro liberty rant about personal freedom, lol. You obviously will do what feels right to you. I would just submit to you that drug use historically remains steady, regardless of the laws against it. I'd also submit that the best way to rid the world of drug crime is by ridding the world of drug laws.

stackerman

NoIWouldn't wrote: »

Not in the slightest, I'd commend you for it

Get on the phone !!

'Evil and good men/women doing nothing' etc. etc.

Peggypeg

Personally I think ratting someone up for dealing weed is a scummy thing to do unless it's affecting you negatively somehow, i.e. bringing 'undesirables' into the area etc. A drugs conviction could ruin their life. Maybe that's just me though, personally I think it's ridiculous that weed is illegal in the first place, when was the last time you saw two stoners kicking the crap out of each other in Templebar on a Saturday night?

In response to the post below: I don't condone drug dealing, however I do condone weed dealing and I also condone legalising it.

omahaid

Shop em, dealing drugs ruins lives. To suggest that reporting someone for drug dealing is scummy is more or less condoning drug dealing.

seamus

Peggypeg wrote: »

Personally I think ratting someone up for dealing weed is a scummy thing to do unless it's affecting you negatively somehow, i.e. bringing 'undesirables' into the area etc.

Even if it's just weed, it will bring "undesirables" into the area, like it or not. Everyone who smokes weed is not a gentle stoner. Every scumbag who takes E and Coke also partakes in weed from time to time and they have to get it from someone.

Even from a more basic standpoint - there's a reason why you're not allowed to conduct a walk-in business from a residential property, and that's because increased foot traffic is a nuisance for neighbours. Even if the guy's customers are no hassle, his neighbours may still have people knocking at his door every 20 minutes, day and night, which is a nuisance for his neighbours and can make others feel nervous and unsafe.

OP, it really depends on what your gripe is:

- If it's leading to scumbags wandering in and out of the estate, contact the Gardai.
- If it's just that there are loads of people constantly coming and going, then you can report him to the local council - tell them you think he's running a shop from his home.
- If there are no negative effects on you, then it's a matter for your personal conscience.

Colonel_McCoy

Shop them now!!! You dont want druggies around your house!

cafecolour

I wouldn't. To me it's about as illegal as distributing music/movies on the internet - technically both are illegal in the eyes of the law, but if I reported everyone who downloaded music they didn't own, I don't know that there'd be anyone left on boards!

Penn

Peggypeg wrote: »

A drugs conviction could ruin their life.

They shouldn't be dealing drugs then.

I'd be careful OP. While reporting them is probably the right thing to do, you have to think about the possible consequences. Perhaps an anonymous letter to the gardai or call from a payphone or something if you really feel that his activities are having a negative effect on you and your neighbourhood

Beetlebum

I would put money on the fact that anyone saying 'Oh yeah...get on the phone' has never smoked a joint in their life. I'm not condoing drug dealing but unless it is directly affecting you (i.e dodgy charcters, being kept awake, feeling intimidated) then just stay out of it.

Why do you care if soemone is dealing a harmless bit of weed. Also, some of teh most respectable people you knwo are probably smokers. Your boss for example could be a toker and you have no idea.

It's always non smokers who stick their nose in when they haven't got a clue. A friend of mine who has never smoked a joint in his life threw me out of his house once for being stoned. I had been there about an hour at this stage and he had no idea I was stoned until I said 'I'm really baked'. He then threw me out for 'being on drugs'. Ridiculous.

Coillte_Bhoy

So what. Mind your own business.

FiennesJ

I'd stay out of it and turn a blind eye, only for the fact that it could back fire on you and you could end up a target for these people who are growing it. They could turn very nasty! people have been shot for less

Bottle_of_Smoke

Yes it would be wrong. I wouldn't burden the taxpayer further putting someone away who's doing far less harm to society than your local pub.

LegacyUser

The fact that you mention weed specifically and not all drugs makes me think he's not the stereotypical scumbag dealer.

Ultimately is it really fair for someone to be locked up for up to 14 years for what he's doing? Because that's what our backwards legal system will do.

Although, if you're raising children it complicates things. May i ask you how you found out?

If he was forthcoming about it he's probably an ok guy. Maybe you could discuss it with him and tell him how you feel. I just think going to the police is an option of last resort (one which i myself would rather move than resort to)....

Nevyn

This forum and indeed this site can not condone someone doing something illegal.
This comes down to a choice you need to make as a person.

wylo

Beetlebum wrote: »

I would put money on the fact that anyone saying 'Oh yeah...get on the phone' has never smoked a joint in their life. I'm not condoing drug dealing but unless it is directly affecting you (i.e dodgy charcters, being kept awake, feeling intimidated) then just stay out of it.

Why do you care if soemone is dealing a harmless bit of weed. Also, some of teh most respectable people you know are probably smokers. Your boss for example could be a toker and you have no idea.

It's always non smokers who stick their nose in when they haven't got a clue. A friend of mine who has never smoked a joint in his life threw me out of his house once for being stoned. I had been there about an hour at this stage and he had no idea I was stoned until I said 'I'm really baked'. He then threw me out for 'being on drugs'. Ridiculous.

personally I think weed should be legalised, but thats another issue.

Granted people that smoke weed are harmless, and then even the small time dealers are harmless, but I can assure its very naive of some of the posters here to think that the bigger dealers aren't heavily involved in all sorts of crime including gun crime.
I have a mate who used to be a dealer who had moved to a new estate, he had a gun pointed to his head once and warned to **** off from their area.

Dont imagine these guys as cool 'the doors' loving hippys. Alot of the bigger dealers are big time criminals in other areas too.

To the OP, if you think you will have no repercussions, go for it. But you have to ask yourself is it really worth the hassle if its not
affecting you.

My advice is ring the gaurds anonymously , let them know what you think is going on, and they'll let the Drug squad deal with it.

Selik

Beetlebum wrote: »

A friend of mine who has never smoked a joint in his life threw me out of his house once for being stoned. I had been there about an hour at this stage and he had no idea I was stoned until I said 'I'm really baked'. He then threw me out for 'being on drugs'. Ridiculous.

What a pathetic sap your so-called mate is..... it disturbs me to think that people like that and a mindset of that nature actually exist.

degrassinoel

seamus wrote: »

Even if it's just weed, it will bring "undesirables" into the area, like it or not. Everyone who smokes weed is not a gentle stoner. Every scumbag who takes E and Coke also partakes in weed from time to time and they have to get it from someone.

what about non-scumbags that take Coke and E'? oddly enough there are plenty of them. What gives you the right to generalize people, especially someone with a narcotic addiction as scumbags seamus?

Nevyn

Please keep posts on topic and helpful to the OP and take debates on drugs to the humanities forum, trying to have such debates here will be considere off topic and unhelpful.

Unhelpful and off-topic posting will get you banned from this forum.
Do take time to read the charter which contains the rules and abide by them.
Have a nice day.
Thaedydal

Lollipops23

I'm with most of the people when they say don't do it unless it's hurting you or the area. I've a fairly relaxed view of weed, but understand others who may not take such a view.

If it's really getting to you then perhaps an anonymous letter may be the way to go; just think of the consequences

newmember2

OP seems to have disappeared.

I would more than likely report my neighbour if I thought he was selling drugs from his house. I don't agree with drug-dealing. If he wants to do it, then move somewhere else where people are OK with it.

PeakOutput

???????? wrote: »

I know that a neighbour of mine deals weed, would you guys think it would be wrong to report this person to the police?

it depends on your reasoning for doing it

if its because you dont like him then thats not a good enough reason

if its because you think he is a danger to society then thats a good enough reason

as you are asking on here i assume you dont have really strong opinions either way

personally if its just weed i dont see it as doing any harm at all assuming he is a relatively 'responsible' dealer like not dealing to kids etc. then again it is illegal so maybe you should report him, how would you feel if someone reported you for driving without tax? or speeding? imo breaking any of the laws with weed are on par with these sort of crimes

LegacyUser

Agree with poster above.

Question your motives.

Are you really worried about the neighbourhood? Is there a real effect? What do you want to do this?

If it 'just happens' that your neighbour is an ordinary person who deals in weed and doesn't threaten anyone or bring down the neighbourhood, then you should probably leave him alone.

I know its difficult for non-stoners to believe but weed is the most harmless of drugs - that doesn't mean that it isn't harmless, but in 20yrs as a stoner, in the company of stoners, I'v not seen too many genuine casualties.

Seriously? Ratting on someone who sells Cannabis? From the reactions in this thread, you'd swear they were a rapist or murderer.

Pubs attract worse undesirables than weed dealers. Far worse.

Don't call the Gardaí on him. He might be a perfectly decent person who lives an honest life, and you will have destroyed him for nothing but a pseudo-moral crusade. People commit crimes every day; are you going to rat on your neighbour who steals digital TV or sells/promotes pirated films?

Just because something is illegal, doesn't mean you should have them arrested. That is just sad.

Think about the situation rationally for a second. How can this possibly be the right thing to do?

Hauk

I would be inclined to agree with the above poster.

Would you be happy if you found your neighbour had ratted you for downloading MP3's?

The attitude towards cannabis is slowly changing as modern society decides not to swallow the baseless cannabis prohibition propaganda that they've been fed since the 1930's.

So to answer the original question: Would it be wrong to report the neighbour to police?

In this instance, I say yes.

Hauk

patrickc

http://www.dialtostop.ie/

1800220220

you can call this anonymously and inform them

LegacyUser

I knew a lad who was dealing weed, used to really annoy me as he always had lots of cash to splash, had a full time job too, used his extra "job" to pay for holidays, nights out, clothes, ahhh!! it wasn't the selling weed that got to me just all the easy money he made from it!

hollis12

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

They shouldn't be dealing drugs then.

I'd be careful OP. While reporting them is probably the right thing to do, you have to think about the possible consequences. Perhaps an anonymous letter to the gardai or call from a payphone or something if you really feel that his activities are having a negative effect on you and your neighbourhood

in some parts of the world women are still stoned to death for having affairs and running away from abusive husbands but in your logic if they didnt want to be executed they shouldnt have broke the law, law and morals are completely different and as regards the issue of drug dealing i think the only difference between a weed dealer and bar owner is a law alcohol has done far more damage to society's health than any drug, i would only report him if he was affecting me personally even then i wouldnt like to have a mans life ruined for such a minor minor offence.

hollis12

degrassinoel wrote: »

what about non-scumbags that take Coke and E'? oddly enough there are plenty of them. What gives you the right to generalize people, especially someone with a narcotic addiction as scumbags seamus?

ha ha ha i completely agree scumbags lol a lot of our knowledge of psychology comes from sigmund frued a coke addict and as for e id feel ten times safer around people on a love buzz from ecstasy than a load of dunk people in a club.