<pointless debate>

WindSock

* Thread locked

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054878335

This thread has been bouncing around AH for a few years harmlessly. Does it really need to be locked?

Xavi6

Just so we get it out of the way early, I'll post the token 'did you PM the mods?' response.

The Hill Billy

I agree. It is funny. And it's not like it was dead for 5 years & only resurrected again yesterday by a "one post wonder".

The Hill Billy

Xavi6 wrote: »

<inserts standard 'did you PM the mods?' response>

FYP in keeping with tone of locked thread.

tbh

what was the point of locking that thread? what purpose did it serve?


you don't *have* to lock a thread, just because it's old. bit of discretion would be great. You don't own these threads, you're just looking after them.

/my 2c

WindSock

Xavi6 wrote: »

Just so we get it out of the way early, I'll post the token 'did you PM the mods?' response.

<answers no, wanted to carry on pointless debate feedback style instead>

tbh

<inserts lolcat picture>

Beruthiel

Was a reason not given in the thread?
It would be a good idea if reasons were given on threads being locked.
Saves threads being set up in Feedback.

Did you get in touch with the mod in question WindSock?

WindSock

Didn't PM the mod. I thought it would be beneficial to discuss why the thread was locked over here.

Beruthiel

WindSock wrote: »

I thought it would be beneficial to discuss why the thread was locked over here.

Yes.
But it would also be useful to know the Mods response first and then discuss, if necessary.
Right now, it's just a one sided debate.

WindSock

<pm sent>

My name is URL

It's Cuckoo's Nest material.. why move other threads to that forum while that <pointless> one is allowed to stay? Just my opinion =p

Quazzie

I normally agree with Sharpshooters locking sprees but I think this particular one is a step too far.

Quazzie

My name is URL wrote: »

It's Cuckoo's Nest material.. why move other threads to that forum while that <pointless> one is allowed to stay? Just my opinion =p

Because its four years old and is a part of AH folklore at this stage. It goes away for a while and every now and again it pops up and the new people who haven't seen it before get to make their input to it.

In four years it hasn't been locked by any mod team despite it making several comebacks, but now it deserves to be locked. Is this part of the 'new' AH?

Its supposed to be satirical about posting styles on AH rather than just mundane mindless posting that exists in TCN.

Kiera

This is a few years old too and wasnt locked or moved?

My name is URL

Quazzie wrote: »

Because its four years old and is a part of AH folklore at this stage. It goes away for a while and every now and again it pops up and the new people who haven't seen it before get to make their input to it.

Its supposed to be satirical about posting styles on AH rather than just mundane mindless posting that exists in TCN.

I guess you're right.. but it's a bit pointless to have a rule against starting pointless threads while there's a completely pointless thread there with Mods posting in it.

Beruthiel

Kiera wrote: »

This is a few years old too and wasnt locked or moved?

That thread is still pretty much as relevant now as the day it was started.

I would imagine that the Pointless Debate thread would/could only go so far.

Kiera

Beruthiel wrote: »

That thread is still pretty much as relevant now as the day it was started.

I would imagine that the Pointless Debate thread would/could only go so far.

I get that but someone did still bring a 4yr old thread back to life.

Would it not be better to let the pointless debate thread just run out of steam if its only going to go so far?

Quazzie

Beruthiel wrote: »

I would imagine that the Pointless Debate thread would/could only go so far.

I disagree. A thread like that won't run out of steam as it is a skit of posting styles on AH. As AH has evolved so has the thread. It is current as it always highlights the current posting trends.

pickarooney

My name is URL wrote: »

It's Cuckoo's Nest material.. why move other threads to that forum while that <pointless> one is allowed to stay? Just my opinion =p

The mod has spoken. Oh, wait...

5starpool

My name is URL wrote: »

I guess you're right.. but it's a bit pointless to have a rule against starting pointless threads while there's a completely pointless thread there with Mods posting in it.

Have less rules that box you into a corner would be my 2c on that connundrum.

As to why a cuckoos nest thread should be in AH and not moved to tCN? Possibly because:

a. It has been there for ages.
b. Some people like a bit of vague silliness now and then in AH as a change from the generic rabble rousing and knee jerkism that is the mainstay of the place.
c. A lot of people think tCN is very strange, even by AH standards and don't want to go in there any more than necessity/curiousity dictates.

Old threads are generally bad things to have around, but one that has been periodically bumped with no previous closures is a bit different really. Just because the *rule* says old threads should be locked, doesn't mean it is necessarily true. It's not as if this is a hot topic discussion that someone migt reply to out of context because they don't think it is an old thread?

Tallon

4 years old?

Who cares how old the thread is, the last update before today and yesterday was 14-01-2010, 13:36 Thats only a month according to my secondary level maths skills

If a (not updated in) 4 years thread is risen from the grave then close it, but not an Active thread

:facepalm

Sharpshooter

WindSock wrote: »

* Thread locked

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054878335

This thread has been bouncing around AH for a few years harmlessly. Does it really need to be locked?

23:17, 26th Nov 2007 Closed Thread Terry

18:06, 13th Apr 2009 Opened Thread Tar.Aldarion
_________________________

As everyone can see the thread was closed before for almost 17 months.

I'm not the first to lock it.

Hill Billy wrote: »

I agree. It is funny. And it's not like it was dead for 5 years & only resurrected again yesterday by a "one post wonder".

See above.

WindSock wrote: »

Didn't PM the mod. I thought it would be beneficial to discuss why the thread was locked over here.

As a mod yourself you know to PM a mod if you have a query, then the Cmod and then go to Helpdesk if you're still not happy with the answer you get.

Quazzie wrote: »

I normally agree with Sharpshooters locking sprees but I think this particular one is a step too far.

It might appear to be a locking spree to users sometimes, but alot of the time there is only one or two mods on.
It wouldn't seem like a spree if there were 4 or 5 locked threads all locked by different mods.

Kiera wrote: »

This is a few years old too and wasnt locked or moved?

That thread was left open because it is relevant to the property market today.

Kiera wrote: »

I get that but someone did still bring a 4yr old thread back to life....

....that is still relevant today.

5starpool wrote: »

Old threads are generally bad things to have around, but one that has been periodically bumped with no previous closures is a bit different really.

It had been closed before.

tbh

why did *you* close it tho? Just because it was old? Ok, fair enough. Maybe you didn't realise it's a bit of a legend thread.

It'd be great if it could be reopened, would you mind re-opening it please?

Sharpshooter

tbh wrote: »

why did *you* close it tho? Just because it was old? Ok, fair enough. Maybe you didn't realise it's a bit of a legend thread.

It'd be great if it could be reopened, would you mind re-opening it please?

Okay, looking over this thread it seems like most want it left open.

So I will unlock it now to keep AHs posters happy.

tbh

Sharpshooter wrote: »

Okay, looking over this thread it seems like most want it left open.

So I will unlock it now to keep AHs posters happy.

thanks sharpie - appreciated

WindSock

Sharpshooter wrote: »

As a mod yourself you know to PM a mod if you have a query, then the Cmod and then go to Helpdesk if you're still not happy with the answer you get.

Sharpshooter wrote: »

Okay, looking over this thread it seems like most want it left open.

So I will unlock it now to keep AHs posters happy.

Because it's not just about me. It's AH in general. That is why a thread is more beneficial here than between 2-3 people in Helpdesk.

DeVore

Then be more honest about that Windsock. :P Dont start a thread asking why was this thread closed, because if thats the information you are looking for, we dont have it. PM the mod, they are the only person who can answer you.

If you want to start a thread that says "This thread was closed, not sure why, but I dont think it should have been because of <inserts rationalisation>* , can we have a discussion about closing old threads that are still running?".


It might seem like the same thing to you, but some people get narked when they feel like the OP is acting the "raw prawn" as the aussies say... ie: being all innocent when really there is a subtext.

You have a good point/question/issue... dont be afraid to tackle it head on is all I'm saying. It can be resolved amicably, as it has been.

Just my 2c

DeV.

*did you see what I did there??

WindSock

Fair enough, I will try to word my thread better in future rather than have it look as an indirect challenge.

Overheal

5starpool

I don't get those pics???

A not equals to sign, then a pic of an open milk (or similar) carton with the month spelt wrong.

That meant to mean something?

Edit: If there are more than 2 pics it may make sense, but I can only see 2 from work.

dr.bollocko

Legendary threads don't have an expiration date?
Is that it?
Do I win a prize? It better not be gone off milk.

Quazzie

Thread can't open.

Say what ya see

My name is URL

Legendary threads shouldn't be milked?

tbh

there's always one?

5starpool

<is confused>

Overheal

<sigh>

The Hill Billy

<inserts standard "in before lock" comment after the silly pics appear>

nesf

<had a better sense of humour four years ago>

Earthhorse

Mr. Chips having a ****?

K-9

Good to see this was sorted. I actually presumed it was locked as a joke!

Its a joke thread about AH!

<inserts usual fight the powah spiel>

Gordon

Make yarn, not barn.

Quazzie wrote: »

Is this part of the 'new' AH?

There's a 'new' AH now?

Buford T Justice

<wonders if I can haz lolcats>

K-9

Closed again!

Wonders what is the point in Feedback for mods sometimes.

My name is URL

K-9 wrote: »

Closed again!

Wonders what is the point in Feedback for mods sometimes.

Every time that thread gets bumped, another one is knocked off the front page in AH. It's only my opinion but I think it had jumped the shark some time ago.

Rabies

Its pointless. Serves no purpose.

I'll open it and move it out of AH.
Humour? tCN?

K-9

My name is URL wrote: »

Every time that thread gets bumped, another one is knocked off the front page in AH. It's only my opinion but I think it had jumped the shark some time ago.

Its not that big a deal, neither is keeping it open though.

K-9

Rabies wrote: »

Its pointless. Serves no purpose.

I'll open it and move it out of AH.
Humour? tCN?

Hardly either of them, is it really though?

Seems the mods want it locked so might as well just do that.

lucernarian

Rabies wrote: »

Its pointless. Serves no purpose.

I'll open it and move it out of AH.
Humour? tCN?

Did you decide to lock the thread just because you personally couldn't see a reason for keeping it open?

Do you think that the thread being open was harmful to After Hours? You do say it's more appropriate for tCN but I noticed that you didn't move it there.

Also, normally I pm Mods directly if I wanted to find out the logic behind an aribtrary decision but it clearly has warranted significant discussion in this thread and you have already posted your summary reasoning in that thread and in this one.

I really do see a lot of garbage being posted in After Hours but such is the nature of the forum. It's a place that allows posting without the level of justification or explanation that's seen on other forums here. I don't see why users must be prevented from posting in it?

WindSock

Quazzie wrote: »

Its supposed to be satirical about posting styles on AH rather than just mundane mindless posting that exists in TCN.

This is what the thread is.

Although there is a tendancy for it to get hijacked once in a while for people to use it as a platform to chat, it still doesn't stay active for very long and drops off once again.
However if it does get too chatty my suggestion is to mod it rather than just lock it.

Something along the lines of;

<Inserts an unpopular post to keep the chat down and highlights in bold to indicate the seriousness of the post> etc.

Sarky

Quazzie wrote: »

Its supposed to be satirical about posting styles on AH rather than just mundane mindless posting that exists in TCN.

Oh dear. I'm going to need a bigger list.