M6 Road Manners!!! (Galway City)

Michael Angelo.

Is it just me or do some people have zero manners when using the motorway in and out og Galway City?? Example being 2 cars in the left lane travelling under 120kmph.. I checked my mirrors, indicated, checked my mirrors again and moved out.. of course the hero in the second car decides to pull straight out in front of me.. On the flip side we have people who appear from no where going 5000kmph and really drive up yer arse.. that really disgusts me!!!.. How come these people never seem to be caught by the relevant authorities??? :mad:

snubbleste

Michael Angelo. wrote: »

How come these people never seem to be caught by the relevant authorities??? :mad:

Because people like you do not bother lifting the phone to make them aware

DeadSkin

snubbleste wrote: »

Because people like you do not bother lifting the phone to make them aware

Have tried that, ringing traffic watch, and nothing has ever come of it.

People will drive like idiots, because they know and they do, get away with it.

Ignorance is f*ckin' bliss!!

If there was a visible traffic corps presence on the roads, people's attitude would change.

Michael Angelo.

snubbleste wrote: »

Because people like you do not bother lifting the phone to make them aware

Ok, firstly I didnt say whether I do or dont report these incidents, so lets deal with facts and not assumptions.

Secondly I am certain, however cant be sure that bad road behaviour exists when I am not on the M6 to be in a position to report it. So to eleviate some of this personal responsibility on ordinary folk we have relevant authorities to detect these type of incidents.

Thank you for your eye opening post Snubbleste. :rolleyes:

stellarartois

snubbleste wrote: »

Because people like you do not bother lifting the phone to make them aware

Way to go tough guy! :rolleyes:

sillymoo

I actually don't find the stretch between ballinasloe and Galway as bad as other stretches of the M6/M4 where eitquite is really bad

biko

People will do all kind of crazy things for all kinds of stupid reasons.
The trick is to expect the unexpected.

Robbo

Since the motorway was completed, I've found that the discipline this side of the Shannon to be pretty good. The problem comes when you get the jackeens-in-exile merging at Maynooth and Kilcock...

dec25532

Michael Angelo. wrote: »

Ok, firstly I didnt say whether I do or dont report these incidents, so lets deal with facts and not assumptions.

Secondly I am certain, however cant be sure that bad road behaviour exists when I am not on the M6 to be in a position to report it. So to eleviate some of this personal responsibility on ordinary folk we have relevant authorities to detect these type of incidents.

Thank you for your eye opening post Snubbleste. :rolleyes:

So, what you are saying is that you don't report bad or dangerous driving? There is certainly no ambiguity in that response!!!!

Bummer1234

Michael Angelo. wrote: »

On the flip side we have people who appear from no where going 5000kmph and really drive up yer arse..

....Id reports that speed and driving anyway!!!......But i agree with ya 100%...Can happen alot on the motorway but just better to be on 120kmh on the left lane and if the pass you flying...flash your lights!!!

s_carnage

dec25532 wrote: »

So, what you are saying is that you don't report bad or dangerous driving? There is certainly no ambiguity in that response!!!!

How did you come to that conclusion from his response You could be writing for the Sun with assumptions like that!!!

Back on topic anyways, haven't found it to bad around Galway yet. i do find coming into Limerick very bad though. When your about 10-15 miles from the city people think you can then drive in the right hand lane at 50mph.

Heading to Dublin at noon so might be changing my above statement this evening but hopefully not!

Tony Almeida

what sad case would report something like "bad etiquette" to the guards?

Its a bit hall monitory.. pathetic imo

galah

compared to the muppetry that used to happen on the old N6, I don't find the motorway that bad...

some people are just idiots though, wherever they drive...

kodute

Michael Angelo. wrote: »

On the flip side we have people who appear from no where going 5000kmph and really drive up yer arse.. that really disgusts me!!!..

Do you happen to be in the overtaking lane when this happens?
If so move left and allow them to pass. Its none of your business what speed they are doing unless you are a member of the traffic corps.

Webbs

kodute wrote: »

Do you happen to be in the overtaking lane when this happens?
If so move left and allow them to pass. Its none of your business what speed they are doing unless you are a member of the traffic corps.

It is your business if they are driving in an unsafe manner and are putting yourself and other road users at risk

padraig71

kodute wrote: »

Do you happen to be in the overtaking lane when this happens?
If so move left and allow them to pass. Its none of your business what speed they are doing unless you are a member of the traffic corps.

As long as you are travelling faster than the vehicle you are passing in the left-hand lane, you are using the overtaking lane properly, i.e. for overtaking. Anyone who is coming up behind you should wait at a safe distance behind you until you have overtaken and had a chance to move safely back to the left-hand lane so that they can then overtake you. There is no excuse for aggressive driving.

BillyGoatGruff

Motorway would be a lot safer and more pleasurable to drive on if people stuck to one rule. If you are not overtaking, stay in the left lane. Unfortunetly people will speed nomatter what we say or do and by staying left you are putting yourself in the safest position. Once you have overtakin pull back in to left lane. There is no excuse for people driving aggressively and tailgating you while you are overtaking. These people are D**kh*ads plain and simple.

Bob_Harris

kodute wrote: »

Its none of your business what speed they are doing unless you are a member of the traffic corps.

I think you will find it is everyone's business what speed others are doing on the road.

We all share the road, and if someone crashed into you / killed your wife or child solely because of the speed they were doing, I think it would very much become your business.

That's a very Irish thing to say "it's none of your business". A lot of people fobbed off claims sexual abuse by priests under the pretence "it's not our business".

If people are doing wrong, it's everyone's business.

alwaysadub

I use the last bit of it getting to work. I saw one fella who was driving in the left lane pull into the hard shoulder to let a tractor pass him,have seen numerous people driving constantly in the overtaking lane at about 80kph,some young fella on a moped going flat out bout 30kph, and of course the ones bombing it down the road flashing and beeping at anything that might slow them down for a millisecond.

Robbo

Bob_Harris wrote: »

I think you will find it is everyone's business what speed others are doing on the road.

We all share the road, and if someone crashed into you / killed your wife or child solely because of the speed they were doing, I think it would very much become your business.

That's a very Irish thing to say "it's none of your business". A lot of people fobbed off claims sexual abuse by priests under the pretence "it's not our business".

If people are doing wrong, it's everyone's business.

I take it you passive-agressively stood in front of priests crotches then in order to prevent them molesting children? Or slipped bromide into the altar wine?

See, we can all cheapen the terror and abuse that went on under the clergy in order to score cheap internet debating points...

Keep left unless overtaking, don't try to be the vigilante Traffic Corps and if you see dangerous driving, ring Traffic Watch. That is all a reasonable person can do without getting so wound up that they have an aneurysm.

kodute

Speeding =/= Dangerous driving

What the OP describes is dangerous driving (tailgating at speed) which as I pointed out could be avoided if he drove in the driving lane.

The tailgaters speed (5000kmph :rolleyes: ) had nothing to do with it.



Back to comparing bad driving to the systematic abuse and destruction of young childrens lives though...

Bob_Harris

Robbo wrote: »

I take it you passive-agressively stood in front of priests crotches then in order to prevent them molesting children? Or slipped bromide into the altar wine?

See, we can all cheapen the terror and abuse that went on under the clergy in order to score cheap internet debating points...

Keep left unless overtaking, don't try to be the vigilante Traffic Corps and if you see dangerous driving, ring Traffic Watch. That is all a reasonable person can do without getting so wound up that they have an aneurysm.

Where in the thread has anyone alluded to being a vigilante Traffic Corps? And where in the thread did the OP say he was in the overtaking lane when being tailgated for that matter?

I'm not trying to cheapen anything, I'm just pointing out the dangers of a "it's not your business" culture.

Roads are a shared public facility, therefore it is everyone's business what everyone else is doing.

Driving very fast doesn't explicitly imply danger but it shortens reaction times, increases stopping distances, increases the magnitude of damage if an accident does occur, and overall increases the probability of accidents.

kodute

Michael Angelo. wrote: »

...I checked my mirrors, indicated, checked my mirrors again and moved out.. of course the hero in the second car decides to pull straight out in front of me.. On the flip side we have people who appear from no where going 5000kmph and really drive up yer arse...

Seems to me like that all happened when he was in the overtaking lane. The OP can clarify of course...

Bob_Harris wrote: »

Where in the thread has anyone alluded to being a vigilante Traffic Corps? And where in the thread did the OP say he was in the overtaking lane when being tailgated for that matter?

I'm not trying to cheapen anything, I'm just pointing out the dangers of a "it's not your business" culture.

Roads are a shared public facility, therefore it is everyone's business what everyone else is doing.

Driving very fast doesn't explicitly imply danger but it shortens reaction times, increases stopping distances, increases the magnitude of damage if an accident does occur, and overall increases the probability of accidents.

'It's not your business' is not a culture. Common sense applies.
Car weaving, suspected drunk driver etc; ring TC.
Car going greater than 120kmph on a motorway engineered for speed; MYOB.
Car tailgating you; get out of the way of the pr!ck.

Bob_Harris

kodute wrote: »

'It's not your business' is not a culture. Common sense applies.
Car weaving, suspected drunk driver etc; ring TC.
Car going greater than 120kmph on a motorway engineered for speed; MYOB.
Car tailgating you; get out of the way of the pr!ck.

Oh wow you're such a tough man. Do you drive around with a big hard-on with the delusion that you are a superior being on the road, and all must bow before you?

Car going greater than 120kmph, continuously, on motorway = breaking the law, not matter hoe you want to portray it. Tailgating is also an offence.

kodute

Bob_Harris wrote: »

Oh wow you're such a tough man. Do you drive around with a big hard-on with the delusion that you are a superior being on the road, and all must bow before you?

Car going greater than 120kmph, continuously, on motorway = breaking the law, not matter hoe you want to portray it. Tailgating is also an offence.

Thats hilarious!! :D Thank you sir!! You genuinely made me laugh!

Ok so lock up the speeders with the paedo priests is it? Don't forget to have a Guard at every corner measuring distances between bumpers, its safer than getting out of the way.

I tip my hat to you and bid you adieu!

Malice

galah wrote: »

some people are just idiots though, wherever they drive...

This is the bottom line when it comes to motoring to be honest.

VW 1

in many cases bad motorway etiquette comes from a lack of education with regard to driving on motorways. how to drive on motorways and motorway etiquette is an issue that should either be included in the theory test so new drivers learn how they should drive on motorways when qualified or when a person passes their test they should be required to pass a further test on how to drive on motorways. this is a particular problem on the m50 where there is 3 lanes, nobody seems to use the left hand lane, people seem intent on sitting in the first overtaking lane content to plod along at 50mph regardless of who is behind them. i have no problem with drivers who want to drive at this speed, just do so in the appropriate lane and try not to hold up other road users!!

Tony Almeida

Bob_Harris wrote: »

Oh wow you're such a tough man. Do you drive around with a big hard-on with the delusion that you are a superior being on the road, and all must bow before you?

Car going greater than 120kmph, continuously, on motorway = breaking the law, not matter hoe you want to portray it. Tailgating is also an offence.

I actually agree with him.

Such a petty little argument oooh he's speeding. I suppose you ring the council if someone has overstayed on their parking ticket by 1 minute?

ZzubZzub

Was on the motorway coming from Athenry, towards Oranmore. A woman decided to do a U turn on the Athenry bound side, then proceeded to drive up the overtaking lane, of that side of the road, against the traffic.

But she put her hazards on, so I suppose that makes it okay.

Women like that are why chicks have a bad name as drivers :mad:

Sponge Bob

Cleeo wrote: »

Women like that are why chicks have a bad name as drivers :mad:

She might even have been driving the tractor that was spotted near Athenry a few weeks back.

The rule on a motorway is simple.

1. Look regularly in the mirror for incoming from behind.
2. Get right out of the feckin way by staying left.
3. Then get on with your journey.

That speeding car behind you could be a Kidney on its way to a childs transplant in Dublin. Who are you to decide why someone is in a hurry.

You are free to report the car for speeding any time thereafter as long as you are not too blind to read the number plate like so many Galway gobdaws

BillyGoatGruff

Sponge Bob wrote: »

You are free to report the car for speeding any time thereafter as long as you are not too blind to read the number plate like so many Galway gobdaws

You gave them that number plate reading test did you. :-)

Xiney

Sponge Bob wrote: »

That speeding car behind you could be a Kidney on its way to a childs transplant in Dublin. Who are you to decide why someone is in a hurry.

And a liver for someone else, and lungs for two people, and a heart for someone... provided it's all in good nick after they crash.

Sponge Bob

Xiney wrote: »

And a liver for someone else, and lungs for two people, and a heart for someone... provided it's all in good nick after they crash.

Entirely their problem, yours is learning to stay out of other drivers way if they are going faster than you whether inside or outside the limit.

I see none of you were ever trained in Autobahn driving , links stehen rechts gehen to paraphrase the golden rule

padraig71

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Entirely their problem, yours is learning to stay out of other drivers way if they are going faster than you whether inside or outside the limit.

This doesn't alter the fact that all too frequently some assh*le will roar up behind you in the overtaking lane while you are overtaking. In which case, you are perfectly right to complete your manoeuvre safely before moving back to the left-hand lane, and he is quite wrong to try to bully or intimidate you by aggressively driving up close behind you. I would imagine that the German autobahns have three lanes, which would make it less of an issue. In any case, there is no excuse for aggressive driving.

Xiney

I dunno.

Someone going faster than they can handle, losing control (maybe the surface is slick?) and crashing into the barrier, thus flipping over through lanes of traffic...


I could see how that MIGHT be my problem. Especially if he happens to land on me.

Not much you can do to stay out of their way in the case I've described.

Sponge Bob

padraig71 wrote: »

In any case, there is no excuse for aggressive driving.

There is no excuse for tailgating and there is no excuse for closing in on somebody who is clearly overtaking and does not have somewhere to pull into.

Then again there is nothing wrong with indicating left when you see them coming up behind ....to show you saw them and intend to pull in once you complete your overtaking manoever in your own time.

If they continue to close thereafter I find that a dab with the left foot on the brake pedal....while keeping the right where it was on the accelerator focuses their little minds for them and especially Volvo drivers for some reason

cooperguy

Xiney wrote: »

And a liver for someone else, and lungs for two people, and a heart for someone... provided it's all in good nick after they crash.

Motorways are by far the safest roads to drive on with very few accidents. You never have a news piece about 2 people dieing in a car crash on the motorway (unless it is very foggy/icy etc. but thats a different issue, I assume we are on about reasonable driving conditions).

If you google the amount of accidents on motorways it is tiny. The roads are built for speed and there is no oncoming traffic.

padraig71 wrote: »

This doesn't alter the fact that all too frequently some assh*le will roar up behind you in the overtaking lane while you are overtaking. In which case, you are perfectly right to complete your manoeuvre safely before moving back to the left-hand lane, and he is quite wrong to try to bully or intimidate you by aggressively driving up close behind you.

Agreed. There is nothing more annoying than seeing that happen. There is no excuse for it, everybody is entitled to overtake slower moving traffic.

happyoutscan

The motorway is a heck of a lot safer than any of the roundabouts in Galway, considering the amount of morons who cannot grasp the basics of using the correct lane and indicators.:mad::mad::mad:

panama

There are countless threads on here relating to irish drivers and I often wonder why are people surprised.
Drivers here do the minimal amount of driver training necessary before being allowed out on the roads, many will have already picked up countless bad habits because they were told by 'ma and da' that that was the correct thing to do even though ma and da were more than likely never taught correctly either and passed their test back in the 50's.

The Irish are a nation of bad drivers, plain and simple.

The best we can hope for as has been alluded to is that someday the government finally take responsibility for the number of annual road deaths and serious injuries causedd by motor crashes and ensure there is a full time garda presence on at least the main road networks around the country which would immediately ensure people at least became a bit more civil and sensible when they get into their cars.
Until then everyone should try and drive as safely and courteously as possible, it's easy to fall into the bad habits of others and play 'follow the leader' because you see some other muppet deems it perfectly okay to stay in the overtaking lane whilst talking on his mobile phone and going 150kph or driving up your arse before making a dangerous manouevre, I've never made a complaint to the traffic corps as I have my doubts after being told first hand from the horses mouth that unless extremely serious that you are most likely wasting your time but that's just my opinion, has anyone on here actually made a complaint about a fellow motorist and seen it followed up to the point where the driver was cautioned or taken off the road etc?

Head The Wall

As far as I know all calls get logged on Pulse whether serious or not. I have heard of people getting visits after a serious report or if they have received a few reports for different issues.

The botttom line is the number is there to use and the guards want us to use it and do act on your input. Take no heed of idiotic posts like below, this poster is probably one of these drivers who may fall foul of getting reported

Tony Almeida wrote: »

Such a petty little argument oooh he's speeding. I suppose you ring the council if someone has overstayed on their parking ticket by 1 minute?

Sconsey

Sponge Bob wrote: »

If they continue to close thereafter I find that a dab with the left foot on the brake pedal....while keeping the right where it was on the accelerator focuses their little minds for them and especially Volvo drivers for some reason

...and you come on here preaching about how good a driver you are? Please nobody take the statement above as a legitimate means of getting rid of a tailgater, it's a way of deliberately causing an accident.

gugsy

You get them everywhere its the same across the water and in europe. The Gaurds and police alike cant be everywhere. Those people will get caught eventually.

geem

Xiney wrote: »

And a liver for someone else, and lungs for two people, and a heart for someone... provided it's all in good nick after they crash.

Ah wondered why there was so much speeding and tailgating etc on Galway's roads... Galwegians must be among Ireland's most generous organ donators.
Maybe there should be a law introduced - Galway organs only go to Galway recipients, that would calm the roads down.

swe_fi

I love the passive-aggressive tone in this thread.

What gets to more than anything else are people doing anything from 40-60-90 on 100 roads or blocking the passing lane on the motorway. Tailgaiting is pain as well but not as much, I actually use the brake light technique as well, it is what you should do unless you cannot get out of the way. The brake light is a universally understood sign.

gugsy

I do it too and it works.

Michael Angelo.

kodute wrote: »

Do you happen to be in the overtaking lane when this happens?
If so move left and allow them to pass. Its none of your business what speed they are doing unless you are a member of the traffic corps.

No

Webbs

swe_fi wrote: »

I love the passive-aggressive tone in this thread.

What gets to more than anything else are people doing anything from 40-60-90 on 100 roads or blocking the passing lane on the motorway. Tailgaiting is pain as well but not as much, I actually use the brake light technique as well, it is what you should do unless you cannot get out of the way. The brake light is a universally understood sign.

Tailgating is far more of a pain and far more dangerous. The person is deliberatly putting pressure on the car in front possibly causing that person to make an irrational decision, there is no time for either party particularly the tailgater to react to an unforseen incident. There is never any justification to tailgate.

Sponge Bob

I find that indicating well in advance (300-400m) of overtaking is wise on a motorway, if you do see someone coming up from behind at speed you can always indicate IN to SHOW you saw them and let them through. Indicating at the last minute is very stupid driving on a motorway.

Then once you are legitimately in the fast lane , overtaking , people behind can feck off until you complete the manoever.

If they think that tailgating will get them anywhere they are very much mistaken

DeadSkin

Sponge Bob wrote: »

There is no excuse for tailgating and there is no excuse for closing in on somebody who is clearly overtaking and does not have somewhere to pull into.

Then again there is nothing wrong with indicating left when you see them coming up behind ....to show you saw them and intend to pull in once you complete your overtaking manoever in your own time.

If they continue to close thereafter I find that a dab with the left foot on the brake pedal....while keeping the right where it was on the accelerator focuses their little minds for them and especially Volvo drivers for some reason

Also very stupid driving. Just as bad as the gobshite behind ya.

dafunk

Robbo wrote: »

The problem comes when you get the jackeens-in-exile merging at Maynooth and Kilcock...

Try calling someone that to their face instead of from the comfort of your home over the
Internet. Have you any concept of how insulting that word is to a dubliner? Do you understand what it means?

Sorry for threadjacking. Yeah, drivers can be dicks.

Head The Wall

dafunk wrote: »

Try calling someone that to their face instead of from the comfort of your home over the
Internet. Have you any concept of how insulting that word is to a dubliner? Do you understand what it means?

Sorry for threadjacking. Yeah, drivers can be dicks.

Same as calling people boggers or culchie or from outside the pale. Build a bridge, so is life