Alice In Wonderland (Burton)

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Johnny Depp is set for a trip to 'Wonderland', courtesy of director pal Tim Burton.

The actor is to play the Mad Hatter in a new version of 'Alice in Wonderland', according to new reports.

The movie, which will hit cinema screens in 2010, will be directed by Burton. It will mark the seventh time he and Depp have worked together.

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Could, as ever, be interesting.

Tusky

Is anyone else absolutely sick of the Depp/Burton combo ? I like them both but for gods sake, cast someone else. Its getting predictable, boring & stale.

Vic Vinegar

Tusky wrote: »

Is anyone else absolutely sick of the Depp/Burton combo ? I like them both but for gods sake, cast someone else. Its getting predictable, boring & stale.

Agreed! what are the odds he squeezes Helena Bonham Carter in it somewhere as well like usual...

ghouldaddy07

Tusky wrote: »

Is anyone else absolutely sick of the Depp/Burton combo ? I like them both but for gods sake, cast someone else. Its getting predictable, boring & stale.

indeed they need branch out and stop giving us the same thing over and over again.

The Everlasting

Boooooooooooo

Can't say I'm looking forward to this

While I like both Burton and Depp has either of them actually done anything original in the past 20 years? Depp has two roles, Jack Sparrow and Burtonesque while Burton just keeps repeating himself with every new film.

dr.bollocko

Ah jaysus.
I am fed up of those two making the same movies over and over again.
I do not like living in the Burtonverse.
Should declare war on it really.

Galvasean

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Ah jaysus.
I am fed up of those two making the same movies over and over again.
I do not like living in the Burtonverse.
Should declare war on it really.

You can start by not paying for his movies..

dr.bollocko

Galvasean wrote: »

You can start by not paying for his movies..

I just checked on IMDB and I actually havent paid for any movie since Mars Attacks!
Ha!
Take that Burton!
How do you like your 14 houses and 17th century vampire bride now, knowing you aren't reaching me with your crap!

My sister bought me that book of his.
The melancholy death of Oyster boy or something.

LOAD OF CRAP!

Galvasean

I bought my sister Nightmare Before Christmas. No regrets, its good.

I also have Planet of the Apes

Earthhorse

dr.bollocko wrote: »

I do not like living in the Burtonverse.
Should declare war on it really.

Better yet, start some nasty rumours about the Burtonverse on Whedonverse headed paper. Given both director's penchant for musicals it could be the campest war ever!

dr.bollocko wrote: »

My sister bought me that book of his.
The melancholy death of Oyster boy or something.

LOAD OF CRAP!

I bought that myself when I saw it in the poetry section of Hodges Figgis. I figured it must be good if it got published and a serious bookstore has it in a serious section. It's bad. Very bad. Almost as bad as Billy Corgan's book of poetry which I was somehow clever enough to avoid.

Earthhorse

Earthhorse wrote: »

Better yet, start some nasty rumours about the Burtonverse on Whedonverse headed paper. Given both director's penchant for musicals it could be the campest war ever!

Whedon owns Burton ha managed in a few months to make a far more satisfying and entertaining musical than Burton could manage in nearly two decades.

Earthhorse wrote: »

I bought that myself when I saw it in the poetry section of Hodges Figgis. I figured it must be good if it got published and a serious bookstore has it in a serious section. It's bad. Very bad. Almost as bad as Billy Corgan's book of poetry which I was somehow clever enough to avoid.

Corgan's book is bad, really, really bad. I'm talkign bad on levels previously unheard of. Burton's book is a bit better but it still remains rather poor.

dr.bollocko

Whedon is a joke IMO.

Earthhorse

Deleted User wrote: »

Whedon owns Burton ha managed in a few months to make a far more satisfying and entertaining musical than Burton could manage in nearly two decades.

That's the sort of thing I'm talking about, you just need to disguise it as a Joss Whedon press release.

Deleted User wrote: »

Corgan's book is bad, really, really bad. I'm talkign bad on levels previously unheard of. Burton's book is a bit better but it still remains rather poor.

A bit better than something that was bad on levels previously unheard of sounds about right.

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Whedon is a joke IMO.

Please. Let's wait until he releases a terrible volume of poetry before judging.

dr.bollocko

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Whedon is a joke IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

Nah, each to their own and all that but personnaly I love Whedon. My favourite show of all time is Firefly, the film is one of my favourites and both Buffy and Angel were execellent. I highly recommend that you watch his muical Dr. Horrible.

BlitzKrieg

*sigh*

I wouldnt mind the burton/depp combo. But they kept the same bloody editor, which means the film will be identical pacing wise to all his other films *sigh*

sryk

johny depp is an incredible actor..hez z best:)

Vic Vinegar

sryk wrote: »

johny depp is an incredible actor..hez z best:)

Fantastic grammar there....

Galvasean

sryk wrote: »

johny depp is an incredible actor..hez z best:)

I don't think anyone is saying Depp is not a good actor. We just wouldn't mind him changing the record for a while.

sryk

sryk wrote: »

johny depp is an incredible actor..hez z best:)

The last truly great Depp performances were in Ed Wood and Dead Man and both were a very long time ago.

Dont be at yourself

Another masturbatory, self-congratulating crapfest. Count me out

bluto63

Personally I'm really looking forward to it. I love Tim Burton and his creepy cartoony style. I think it'll work well with Alice In Wonderland

DirkVoodoo

Firefly is wonderful. Saw an episode of Buffy last night on TV and I don't think it has aged well. I used to like that show, but it just seems a little naff now. Firefly was great because whedon wasnt trying to make running gags about the trials and tribulations of growing up every 5 minutes. The one last night was the college one where the beer turns some philosophy snobs into cavemen, one or two funny bits, but it seemed a little juvenile and cliched (I guess thats what buffy always was!)

JangoFett

Depp as the mad hatter would be cool, and this is gonna be like a dark version of Alice in Wonderland...think Sweeney Todd mixed with Willy Wonka mixed with the Joker and thats what I'd like Depp to do

MagicMarker

If they HAVE to do another movie what about a sequel to Sleepy Hollow, that would be nice.

Firefly ftw.... Buffy is a load of cock

Galvasean

Am I the only one who thinks teh darkk take of alice in Wonderland has been done to death?

Handsome Bob

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09YdMstR1Kk

Johnny Depp looks really good here. He's a really underrated actor because just look at him in this trailer and his straight laced performances in the likes of Blow and Public Enemies.

Looking forward to this film as it is meant to be much more faithful to the book.

Nevyn

More true to the book?
First impression Alice is far too old.

Karl Hungus

Johnny Depp is underrated? Since when?

Handsome Bob

Thaedydal wrote: »

More true to the book?
First impression Alice is far too old.

It's meant to be darker in tone like the book.

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Johnny Depp is underrated? Since when?

I always get the impression that he's seen as eye candy more so than as a heavyweight actor. I also feel that some of his performances such as his one in Blow don't get the acclaim that they deserve.

Nevyn

LZ5by5 wrote: »

It's meant to be darker in tone like the book.

An in the book Alice is a young adolescent roughly around 13 year, neither child nor woman.

LZ5by5 wrote: »

I always get the impression that he's seen as eye candy more so than as a heavyweight actor.
I also feel that some of his performances such as his one in Blow don't get the acclaim that they deserve.

That would not be my impression at all esp from those who have seen any of his acting in real films such as, the brave, the ninth gate, deadman, nick of time, blow, benn and joon

.

Handsome Bob

Thaedydal wrote: »

That would not be my impression at all esp from those who have seen any of his acting in real films such as, the brave, the ninth gate, deadman, nick of time, blow, benn and joon

.

Well then I'd say fair play to you and that you know what you are talking about.

Basq

Looks dark, dank, disturbing and more than likely disappointing!

Nevyn

The book was/is meant to be dark and distrubing.

Basq

Thaedydal wrote: »

The book was/is meant to be dark and distrubing.

What about dank and disappointing?

That's what Burton will add to it.

Don't get me wrong.. I generally like Tim Burton and while I thought 'Sweeney Todd' was the best thing he's done in years, he's just far more miss than hit these days. And this looks like it may tread the same disappointing tired grounds as 'Charlie And The Chocolate Factory'.

But I remain hopeful..!

Karl Hungus

LZ5by5 wrote: »

I always get the impression that he's seen as eye candy more so than as a heavyweight actor. I also feel that some of his performances such as his one in Blow don't get the acclaim that they deserve.

I don't know, I think people in general have a high opinion of him, and if people have anything bad to say about him, it's usually about his 'kooky' roles like Willy Wonka. I'd say I've rated him highly since Ed Wood. The Ninth Gate is another that shows what a solid actor he is.

Nevyn

That remake of 'Charlie And The Chocolate Factory' is the only Johnny Depp movie I have not seen todate and I can't see me making myself watch it any time soon.

Roar

looks bloody brilliant

can't wait

Karl Hungus

I kinda agree with Basquille, Burton is very hit and miss, but when he hits it's terrific, so I'd give any of his films the benifit of doubt. For every Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, he has a Big Fish.

trustno1

Thaedydal wrote: »

That would not be my impression at all esp from those who have seen any of his acting in real films such as, the brave, the ninth gate, deadman, nick of time, blow, benn and joon

.

Don't forget 21 Jump Street and Nightmare on Elm Street :pac::pac:.. but seriously he is an excellent actor - also in need of a mention is Ed Wood and Donnie Brasco.. oh and Edward Scissorhands..

I am not going to get my hopes up on AIW at all due to the sh*ite that was The Planet of the Apes and Willie Wonka.. and why the hell does he have to put Helena B.C. in all his films??.. enough is enough already - leave the little wife at home!!

Dont be at yourself

Looks terrible. Another Burton/Depp self-congratulatory snorefest.

Nevyn

trustno1 wrote: »

I am not going to get my hopes up on AIW at all due to the sh*ite that was The Planet of the Apes and Willie Wonka.. and why the hell does he have to put Helena B.C. in all his films??.. enough is enough already - leave the little wife at home!!

I didn't bother with planet of the apes and tbh H.B.C. was great as Mrs Lovett.

Handsome Bob

trustno1 wrote: »

I am not going to get my hopes up on AIW at all due to the sh*ite that was The Planet of the Apes and Wille Wonka.. and why the hell does he have to put Helena B.C. in all his films??.. enough is enough already - leave the little wife at home!!

I understand what you mean but I'd say that the reason he consistently casts the likes of Depp and Helena is because he wants familiarity. He probably sees casting actors and actresses that he hasn't worked with before as unnecessary distractions. Burton knows what he'll get from Depp and Carter. Depp and Carter know what Burton wants.

trustno1

Thaedydal wrote: »

I didn't bother with planet of the apes and tbh H.B.C. was great as Mrs Lovett.

I really enjoyed Sweeny Todd and on the first watch I liked Helena as Mrs Lovett, but the second time I watched it I didn't think her voice was strong enough to carry the role and it just grinded on me.. I do like her as an actress but I think that he should find new talent to work with... except for Johnny.. we will keep him..

lostexpectation

Alice (Mia Wasikowska), now 17, attends a party at a Victorian estate only to find she is about to be proposed to in front of hundreds of snooty society types. She runs off, following the White Rabbit (Michael Sheen) into a hole and ending up in Wonderland, a place she visited 10 years before, yet doesn't remembe

Karl Hungus

A lot of directors tend to stick with regular actors. Scorcese and DeNiro for example. I don't think Burton casting Depp and Carter all the time is a problem, it's just that he's made a number of bad films lately, and they'd be the same no matter who was cast in them.

Nevyn

lostexpectation wrote: »

Alice (Mia Wasikowska), now 17, attends a party at a Victorian estate only to find she is about to be proposed to in front of hundreds of snooty society types. She runs off, following the White Rabbit (Michael Sheen) into a hole and ending up in Wonderland, a place she visited 10 years before, yet doesn't remembe

Where is that quote from?

If that is the premise of the film then it is not close to the book at all.
For in the book Alice is at the stage of being no longer a child and not yet counted a woman and has to preform a recital piece at a garden party and flees and has never been to wonderland before.

It seems they have mish mashed then the two books together which explains the presence of the red and white queens which are in "through the looking glass".

monkeyfudge

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Looking forward to this film as it is meant to be much more faithful to the book.

It looks like the least faithful adaptation of the book of all time. It looks pure Burton by numbers muck with Depp phoning in a zany performance.

Why the hell does it look like the Mad Hatter is a main character? At most he should be in it for 10 minutes if it was a proper adaptation.

You've also got the Red Queen, the Jaberwocky, Tweedledum and Tweedledee in there... none of whom are in the fecking book.

Have we all forgotten the balls Burton and Depp made of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory?

Alice's Adventures in Wonderland is one of my favourite books. And while it is a very surreal and dreamlike I despise modern attempts to try and make it gothic and macabre.

Ivan

Trailer doesnt load for me? Says embedding is disabled and then clicking on the video says that it's not available in my country. Am I missing something?

Ivan

Ivan wrote: »

Trailer doesnt load for me? Says embedding is disabled and then clicking on the video says that it's not available in my country. Am I missing something?

It's just youtueb being retarded. Just search for the video on the site and you'll find it.

Have to say that I'm not what you would call impressed with what I've seen so far. It looks like another self indulgent **** fest for Depp and Burton. Don't get me wrong I think that both are insanely talented but neither has exactly stretched themselves in recent years. The last great film from either was Ed Wood and that was a long, long time ago.

Simian!

Only a teaser but the CGI looks really bad. Obligatory Helena Bonham Carter appearance too