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Saturday Singles, Timothy Croughs , Inchicore - Starts 20/2 for 10 weeks
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It would appear that certain armchair darts philosophers who frequently contaminate this site with inane drivel have been having a pop at my running of this competition. I subscribed to this forum for the primary purpose of furnishing darts information and if possible to participate in constructive and intelligent dialogue. However I have no intention of engaging in any ongoing innocuous verbal debate with individuals who would perhaps be better suited to the Soaps forum :P
However I would like to avail of this opportunity to clarify the actual situation and to outline the background to this exaggerated controversy so that it can finally be put to bed
This competition, ls open to all players including the previously named player who allegedly has been told not to turn up for future competitions. Some weeks ago, in the course of a private and informal conversation I remarked to the player in question that as a consequence of him winning the competition nearly every week I was losing players. This had actually happened at another competition I ran last year in a different pub.
I suggested that perhaps he should go awol for an odd week to alleviate the situation and make my position a little easier. I did not tell him that he was banned or could not play in the competition.
He said that he would not be at the next two competitions anyway citing personal family reasons so I thought no more of the matter. He subsequently turned up and won the next two competitions. 
Had I banned him as alleged I would have simply refused his entry. Shane's participation in this competition, as a present/former PDC player had in fact been queried on the very first week of the competition but I ignored suggestions that he should not be allowed to play. Had I wished to prevent him playing I would have done so then. Indeed I would have been perfectly entitled to do so as there are many instances of player restrictions in other competitions.
This competition is only a local pub competition designed to encourage young and not so young inexperienced players to compete against more seasoned players. The short format 3x601 games and the Double start attempts to address the imbalance between both category of player. However cream inevitably rises to the top and the better player usually triumphs as is certainly the case in this competition so far.
Again I stress that this was an informal discussion among friends. I actually started Shane playing darts competively and nurtured and encouraged him through his formative years. I think therefore I am entitled to speak frankly to him and in fact often do on other unrelated matters.
For reasons best known to himself Shane has foolishly chosen to go public with what was essentially a private matter portraying himself as somewhat of a victim. In doing so he misrepresented the substance of our conversation with the result that I have been unfairly castigated and pilloried as being unfair and incompetent. Anyone who knows me will assure all that I am neither. Shane should have discussed any percieved grievance with me and only me. This competition acknowledges all participating darts players not just for the gifted few. I run this competition fairly I reserve the right to continue to do so in the interests of the overall sport. Finally I would suggest that that only individuals with something constructive to offer should post on this thread. 0 -
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I was at this tournament on saturday just gone, first time i went, i'll probably come back again i reckon.
Tournament was pretty well run, it got running shortly after 5 as advertised (and lord knows some tournaments take forever to get underway) so that was a nice + point for it.
Shane was there but then so was McCracken, Michael O Sullivan and Joe Coyne appeared too, Andy Poole. There wasnt a lack of people who could give shane a game.
Double in was a real leveller (ironically i was away in a snap and couldnt finish), Its a short enough format but it was enjoyable, had i been snappier finishing i think i might have made a better fist of my game with Andy, we were polar opposites, he was slow away, i was snappy away, i was slow finishing, get gobbled up the finishing doubles. Thats the difference
Despite losing 5-2 the next day in the players championship, i feel playing at this the day before helped settle nerves and helped me on my doubles.
Would reccomend anyone around to head along. I also would like to apologise to everyone, i gave shane a set of flights and he seemed to love them and went on to win it. Thus im clearly at fault for not making him play with his busted up flights
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It would appear that certain armchair darts philosophers who frequently contaminate this site with inane drivel have been having a pop at my running of this competition. I subscribed to this forum for the primary purpose of furnishing darts information and if possible to participate in constructive and intelligent dialogue. However I have no intention of engaging in any ongoing innocuous verbal debate with individuals who would perhaps be better suited to the Soaps forum :P
However I would like to avail of this opportunity to clarify the actual situation and to outline the background to this exaggerated controversy so that it can finally be put to bed
This competition, ls open to all players including the previously named player who allegedly has been told not to turn up for future competitions. Some weeks ago, in the course of a private and informal conversation I remarked to the player in question that as a consequence of him winning the competition nearly every week I was losing players. This had actually happened at another competition I ran last year in a different pub.
I suggested that perhaps he should go awol for an odd week to alleviate the situation and make my position a little easier. I did not tell him that he was banned or could not play in the competition. He said that he would not be at the next two competitions anyway citing personal family reasons so I thought no more of the matter. He subsequently turned up and won the next two competitions. Had I banned him as alleged I would have simply refused his entry. Shane's participation in this competition, as a present/former PDC player had in fact been queried on the very first week of the competition but I ignored suggestions that he should not be allowed to play. Had I wished to prevent him playing I would have done so then. Indeed I would have been perfectly entitled to do so as there are many instances of player restrictions in other competitions.
This competition is only a local pub competition designed to encourage young and not so young inexperienced players to compete against more seasoned players. The short format 3x601 games and the Double start attempts to address the imbalance between both category of player. However cream inevitably rises to the top and the better player usually triumphs as is certainly the case in this competition so far.
Again I stress that this was an informal discussion among friends. I actually started Shane playing darts competively and nurtured and encouraged him through his formative years. I think therefore I am entitled to speak frankly to him and in fact often do on other unrelated matters.
For reasons best known to himself Shane has foolishly chosen to go public with what was essentially a private matter portraying himself as somewhat of a victim. In doing so he misrepresented the substance of our conversation with the result that I have been unfairly castigated and pilloried as being unfair and incompetent. Anyone who knows me will assure all that I am neither. Shane should have discussed any percieved grievance with me and only me. This competition acknowledges all participating darts players not just for the gifted few. I run this competition fairly I reserve the right to continue to do so in the interests of the overall sport. Finally I would suggest that that only individuals with something constructive to offer should post on this thread.
After speaking to mac cracken on sunday in the green isle over a beer or 2, it wud seem that Bobby isnt at fault, but neither therefore is Shane.
Competition, within the name, is just that, we pitt our wits or skills versus them that are better/worse than us on any given day.
But darts players are a fikkel bunch, hate to see anyone doing well, or better than they think they shud do. Shame that instead of moaning behind closed doors, or having a word with Bobby they shud get the arris up away from the bar, and practice, maybe it is these people who wud be better suited to these soap forums, seeing as how they have acted like old women in the 1st place.
Im sure Bobby, your around long enough now to know, not everyone is going to be pleased all of the time, and there is very little worse than a darts player that cant see past 1 player in the room winning. Better they get off de ar se and practice rather than moaning like old ladies.
great competition, and was way back when we had Jack/John Mac Kenna, tom Kirby, Mick mac Gowan, John Burke, Gary buchanan to name but a few.... Not many moaned then, what they done was got up and tried to beat them.
As for Shane, i dont think it was him that made it public, i think it came from someone who heard it second hand..
All the best, and i know these competitions bring players on, the likes of Gareth gray, shane, and even god forbid Mac Cracken.
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This weeks competition has been put back to 7pm to facilitate players involved in the competition in the nearby Good Counsel on the same day.We will revert back to the usual 5pm start next week. This is week No 7 and there are a lot of good players who need to pick up points to ensure participation in the overall finals. If you are not in you can't win. Happy Easter all 0
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You might see a few ex players from the borough league travel over in the next few weeks, im sure we would be made welcome.This weeks competition has been put back to 7pm to facilitate players involved in the competition in the nearby Good Counsel on the same day.We will revert back to the usual 5pm start next week. This is week No 7 and there are a lot of good players who need to pick up points to ensure participation in the overall finals. If you are not in you can't win. Happy Easter all0 -
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